Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Hmm, wonder if I should dump my Russian stuff for a slight loss now just in case. It's probably going to tank in response.
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Hmm, wonder if I should dump my Russian stuff for a slight loss now just in case. It's probably going to tank in response.
Ether_Snake
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Who knows. Varoufakis is sounding like they are really going to get a deal in the end, but not Tsipras. From what I'm seeing he's positioning himself to have political support from the masses when Greece exits. Then again, it could be just to push the EU to agree to something more sensical, by showing them he's ready and has the population's support if he chooses out, but I don't think the Troika will EVER accept coming out of this with Tsipras coming out as a victor locally, never ever ever under any circumstance, they know it would basically cause all similar parties to be boosted significantly if they did. This has been the aim of the IMF/Troika for a while now; to undermine Syzira politically, to warn Europe not to put such parties in power, but it's not working, and it wouldn't work whatever the outcome would be. Greece out and when Spain will go to the elections Podemos will lead (because people will think they are next to have to deal with this crap). Greece stays, and Podemos will win too, because people will say that to be able to get concessions you need a party like Syriza in power.
So to me, Germany and co. will absolutely never accept this. Greece is out would be my bet.
So to me, Germany and co. will absolutely never accept this. Greece is out would be my bet.
I held, but looking at it this noon i wished i had sold it. Now i'm gonna keep it and see where it goes.
So I've always stuck to Indexes and Mutual funds, but I've saved some extra cash and decided to make a few riskier investments.
For my first true stock, I bought some Tesla Motors. They always see huge increases when new cars are released and they have 2 upcoming vehicles. On top of that their lithium ion battery factory could mean big things for them. I'm expecting to hold until at least 2017.
What are you thoughts?
For my first true stock, I bought some Tesla Motors. They always see huge increases when new cars are released and they have 2 upcoming vehicles. On top of that their lithium ion battery factory could mean big things for them. I'm expecting to hold until at least 2017.
What are you thoughts?
Ether_Snake
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All that is priced in in some way, what will matter is will Tesla beat expectations, and what are the expectations? Does the market expect the giga factory to underdeliver or reach its expected output? Same for vehicle sales, expansion in China, etc.
On another note; DDD and SSYS keep going lower, as expected. GE save me and buy at least DDD.
Ether_Snake
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I am already down 17% on my investments (excluding my registered retirement account). This week will be so ugly 
At least all my investments are in USD, so with the CAD's 20% drop I'm probably breaking even 
And I pulled around 25% out a few weeks ago, to reinvest later, should be about to average my loss a bit.
Watch Shanghai, the markets were already going crazy last week (7% drop on Friday), and this was completely unrelated to Europe.
At least all my investments are in USD, so with the CAD's 20% drop I'm probably breaking even And I pulled around 25% out a few weeks ago, to reinvest later, should be about to average my loss a bit.Watch Shanghai, the markets were already going crazy last week (7% drop on Friday), and this was completely unrelated to Europe.
mmazurkiewicz
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futures down 1.5% already.
Took some small looses to have some money on hand. Waiting for a descision with Greek (and hopefully some pullbacks till then), then I will put everything I have into $Box.
Super bullish on this midterm now, what people don't get is that they aren't some noname cloudservice but they will help shape the office of the future. Its all about the ecosystem. Define work structures, give tasks to your colleagues, company archives etc.
IBM and Windows partnerships are strong indicators that the are on the right path. Maybe even one of them will buy them in the next 2 years.
Mark my words
Super bullish on this midterm now, what people don't get is that they aren't some noname cloudservice but they will help shape the office of the future. Its all about the ecosystem. Define work structures, give tasks to your colleagues, company archives etc.
IBM and Windows partnerships are strong indicators that the are on the right path. Maybe even one of them will buy them in the next 2 years.
Mark my words
mmazurkiewicz
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Took some small looses to have some money on hand. Waiting for a descision with Greek (and hopefully some pullbacks till then), then I will put everything I have into $Box.
Super bullish on this midterm now, what people don't get is that they aren't some noname cloudservice but they will help shape the office of the future. Its all about the ecosystem. Define work structures, give tasks to your colleagues, company archives etc.
IBM and Windows partnerships are strong indicators that the are on the right path. Maybe even one of them will buy them in the next 2 years.
Mark my words
what is $box?
Ether_Snake
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My indicator is telling me I should buy now, but I'm not buying except at preset dates, so not until the end of next week.
Thats the market for you. I took profits a month ago and saw my stocks keep going up, I was cussing myself. After today I could by again at a good price. I'm learning to be a patient trader and hopefully will continue to do good. Now I just need the balls to put lots of more money in to the market when I see a good opportunity.
My goal is to be able to trade for a living. I'm a long ways from that and will probably never get there. I don't spend enough time studying this stuff. I'll have to keep slaving away.
Any thoughts on where the market will go in the next day or two? If things keep going down I might get in to some high yielding stocks after a good drop.
My goal is to be able to trade for a living. I'm a long ways from that and will probably never get there. I don't spend enough time studying this stuff. I'll have to keep slaving away.
Any thoughts on where the market will go in the next day or two? If things keep going down I might get in to some high yielding stocks after a good drop.
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edit: Rewrote
Most likely scenario; Greece votes yes, Tsipras calls elections, minority government is formed with pro-asuterity parties, Troika is happy and might even give a better deal to boost the pro-austerity leader (all they have wanted is for Syriza to be ousted). Deal signed, but it will come back to bite them later because austerity won't work and anti-austerity will continue to increase especially outside of Greece such as in Spain.
Who knows how the markets will react. Feels to me like it's going to last a long time. The real problem is not even Greece, it's the Troika; they will never be able to change their position for domestic political reasons, and Greece will keep its foot in the door until they get shoved out, but that will send a very bad message about the union itself.
I'm all invested in VUG, VEA, VNQ (got hurt on that one), and BLV. I still hold some old tanked stocks, mainly DDD, SSYS, and SCTY. But I'm not putting my money in anything except ETFs anymore. No more short term thinking.
Most likely scenario; Greece votes yes, Tsipras calls elections, minority government is formed with pro-asuterity parties, Troika is happy and might even give a better deal to boost the pro-austerity leader (all they have wanted is for Syriza to be ousted). Deal signed, but it will come back to bite them later because austerity won't work and anti-austerity will continue to increase especially outside of Greece such as in Spain.
Who knows how the markets will react. Feels to me like it's going to last a long time. The real problem is not even Greece, it's the Troika; they will never be able to change their position for domestic political reasons, and Greece will keep its foot in the door until they get shoved out, but that will send a very bad message about the union itself.
I'm all invested in VUG, VEA, VNQ (got hurt on that one), and BLV. I still hold some old tanked stocks, mainly DDD, SSYS, and SCTY. But I'm not putting my money in anything except ETFs anymore. No more short term thinking.
Ether_Snake
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What do you guys think about the recent bond selloff? BLV still hands out a 4% dividend but the stock keeps getting hammered.
And how low can DDD and SSYS go? :|
And how low can DDD and SSYS go? :|
I think DDD and SSYS are probably done falling. They would obviously keep going down if the entire market is under pressure. 3D printing hasn't really taken off, though theres some growing room with any type of good news.
China markets were down 7% earlier today. Curious to see how the markets do tomorrow.
China markets were down 7% earlier today. Curious to see how the markets do tomorrow.
Ether_Snake
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We'll see, it seems like the drop never ends for 3D printing stocks.
BTW, mark my words, the Shanghai stock market is soon entering the bull trap, and then it's going to be dowwwwwwn.
BTW, mark my words, the Shanghai stock market is soon entering the bull trap, and then it's going to be dowwwwwwn.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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I think I may just lock in my $60 loss in Russia. It seems like it'll just keep getting hammered.
Ether_Snake
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I'd say MON is more in that position right now.
Melon Husk
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Bought solars on today's dip. Candles are pretty.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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What exactly are you basing your conclusion that AAPL is bearish on? I'm not seeing it.
1st Course
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I think there's a good chance Apple Watch is going to disappoint. So much noise was around it the first week it released but I don't see anyone talking about it anymore. Many analysts have lowered their expectations from what I see too
http://www.ibtimes.com/analysts-are-lowering-apple-watch-expectations-amid-flattening-demand-1932190
http://americasmarkets.usatoday.com/2015/07/01/apple-watch-selling-worse-than-thought/
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Dunno, firms haven't reduced their target prices so I think jumping to the idea it's bearish is a gross exaggeration.
Amory
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I put 2k in a Fidelity account on Monday to goof around with some day trading.
I traded Chesapeake Energy (CHK) the last couple days and managed to make around 13% so far. Feels good, man.
I'm looking at switching over to trade king from fidelity, though, because their commission is only 4.95 compared to fidelity's 8 bucks. Does anyone have experience using them? Any problems?
Any idea what stocks I might look at next that might be poised for a jump? I was happy to get a 3.5% return today with the market being as crappy as it was...
I traded Chesapeake Energy (CHK) the last couple days and managed to make around 13% so far. Feels good, man.
I'm looking at switching over to trade king from fidelity, though, because their commission is only 4.95 compared to fidelity's 8 bucks. Does anyone have experience using them? Any problems?
Any idea what stocks I might look at next that might be poised for a jump? I was happy to get a 3.5% return today with the market being as crappy as it was...
Ether_Snake
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Never Twitter. I said why before, but basically there's no meaningful way for them to make money.
Amory
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Tend to agree, but they're so ingrained in the social media sphere now it seems like they have to eventually figure it out. Facebook did (granted they have a much larger user base).
Either that or get bought up.
Ended up buying some Southwest shares. Bad few months for them but they'll be back.
Either that or get bought up.
Ended up buying some Southwest shares. Bad few months for them but they'll be back.
$Box today just perfect Levie is the perfect CEO, right beetween great founder guy that you wan't to hang out with and talk tech and manager.
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Twitter could earn much more money than they are doing right now. I agree that they never will earn as much as Facebook. But:
On Twitter all day, open up facebook 2 times a day. And there are many people like me. Stock market, greek crisis, sports, hollywood, imagine that stuff without Twitter.
What it needs: Better interface; premium subscription stuff (2$/month) for additional optional features (customization...); more advertisment (I use >official< tweetdeck with 4 bars, have adblocker deactivated and I never see ads. On the official main page its very rare); find a way to charge companies for Twitter promo (special Periscope shows from brands were a good start, why not organize stuff like that for american sports etc on a regular basis etc.).
Think Twitter won't go away, its main problem is that the average internet user doesn't care for its main purpose: Portal to the internet with the newest updates of your favourite webpages/ interests/topics/people. For people like me its a bless.
Levie is the perfect CEO, right beetween great founder guy that you wan't to hang out with and talk tech and manager.___
Twitter could earn much more money than they are doing right now. I agree that they never will earn as much as Facebook. But:
On Twitter all day, open up facebook 2 times a day. And there are many people like me. Stock market, greek crisis, sports, hollywood, imagine that stuff without Twitter.
What it needs: Better interface; premium subscription stuff (2$/month) for additional optional features (customization...); more advertisment (I use >official< tweetdeck with 4 bars, have adblocker deactivated and I never see ads. On the official main page its very rare); find a way to charge companies for Twitter promo (special Periscope shows from brands were a good start, why not organize stuff like that for american sports etc on a regular basis etc.).
Think Twitter won't go away, its main problem is that the average internet user doesn't care for its main purpose: Portal to the internet with the newest updates of your favourite webpages/ interests/topics/people. For people like me its a bless.
Ether_Snake
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I agree Twitter could do better, but it would have to fundamentally change. Other than getting tweets from paid sponsors, anything else would require it to be quite a different platform.
Put yourself in the user's place; how would you pay for anything, or how could they make money out of you? FB has all your info, Twitter knows nothing about you except who you follow. Facebook can know which books I like, which I read, which movies I saw, where I traveled, etc.
Anyway we'll see, but to me the more money Twitter tries to make, the further away it will be from what made it popular.
Otherwise they'll have to start charging to allow you to get X number of followers or per tweets or whatever, all self-destructive.
Put yourself in the user's place; how would you pay for anything, or how could they make money out of you? FB has all your info, Twitter knows nothing about you except who you follow. Facebook can know which books I like, which I read, which movies I saw, where I traveled, etc.
Anyway we'll see, but to me the more money Twitter tries to make, the further away it will be from what made it popular.
Otherwise they'll have to start charging to allow you to get X number of followers or per tweets or whatever, all self-destructive.
$Box today just perfect
Be careful with Box. I got out until this event happens. I still think Box is oversold.
Lockup expiration on 7/22 - http://www.nasdaq.com/markets/ipos/company/box-inc-718252-74964
Ether_Snake
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Rumors are the Canadian central bank will lower its rate, how stupid. The bubble keeps growing, this might just finally pop it.
Edit: confirmed, and Canada is in a recession.
Edit: confirmed, and Canada is in a recession.
Yep sure. Not worried about that though, they seem pretty confident and there won't be too much insider selling.
Still I'm thinking about getting out at +9%. Huge amount of Box bears will probably see their chance. Would be perfect for me because I could buy again at 17$ and wait for the next rally a few days/weeks later. Just scared about takeover news or that one big push I'm predicitng and not being in at that moment
and the stocks go up up up up up
Though I do wonder if I should do something once we hit a certain CAD value
vpance
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No signs of reversal yet. When USD stalls out then we should think about it. Everything revolves around the USD and they haven't even increased rates yet. Meanwhile every other country in the world is following the US playbook of QE and rate cuts trying to stimulate their economies.
CAD will try to tag 73c, don't know when but I'm looking for that to happen eventually.
When they cut today I thought it would be a sell on news kind of thing, but post announcement USDCAD still went up. That just tells you CAD is in worse than expected shape by the market.
Melon Husk
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Netflix split frenzied the retail market. Almost 800 per share in old money now.
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Netflix, Google, Amazon. Tech is on fire.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Can't wait for it to grow more. I'll finally be able to visit canada for the first time.
Melon Husk
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Something's in the air... Summer has made momentum stocks crazy. Google is now 666.66. Some $85 billion has been poured into it in 10 days.
vpance
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Can't wait for it to grow more. I'll finally be able to visit canada for the first time.
Good, we'll need some tourism to rebound the failed economy then
We tagged 1.3 today! Thank you Harper.
Bought Google before the io presentation because I thought they would show something they didn't. Held it for 2 1/2 months to wait for next earnings. Sold it one week prioir because I feared the Greek descision, didn't think it earnings would move it drastically and wanted money on hand for $Box. Made some good money on that but boy selling google was a big mistake //. Crazy week.
What online brokers do you guys recommend? I'm afraid sharebuilder is going to shit since it has transformed into capitalone investing. They called me yesterday and want me to talk someone about my retirement investments and stuff. I want to trade on my own and don't want to pay for a financial planner.
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