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[SillyEskimo]

I'm a white dude who worked an NAACP event as a waiter when I was 18 (20yrs ago). It was a conference type lunch where I just brought out the food/drinks and cleaned up when people were finished. I was treated like shit, called racist names as I was working, and openly laughed at by the tables and asked how it felt to be a slave to black people/shoe is on the other foot jokes. When it was over, I was asking my co-workers if it's always that bad and they were just like "yep, grin and bear it dude!". It was the first and only day I worked that job. Fuck that noise.

It's the most overt and open hatred towards race I ever encountered, and it was against me....until I moved to Arkansas. Holy shit it's awful down there. Being black in the south has gotta be hard.

My co-worker's husband is muslim and works as a flight attendent. He's got some amazing stories of racisim!

 

[Mononoke]

That's how we're raising our son, we've told him some people don't want to treat everyone equally and that's wrong. He's still young so we haven't expanded too much on that. There's a little girl down the street he's friends with, and I won't let him go play at her house 'cause her parents are extra-super racist. I haven't explained to him why i won't let him other than, "Her parents don't think everyone should be treated the same, and that's wrong".

Good on you, you sound like a fine parent. I'm very thankful for mine, and I'm sure your son will feel the same way when he is older.

EDIT: One thing I would suggest, is also telling your son (when you feel he's old enough to be told) about how racism is still around today. Because I know some people that had parents that raised them to not be racist. But because they've lived in a bubble where they haven't seen or experienced racism, they believe that racism ins't really a thing anymore. So while they themselves are not racist, and treat everyone equally, they might also assume that MOST of the world does the same thing.

I'm not a parent though, so I only offer my own humble suggestion. I have no idea how to raise a child (to be honest it scares the shit out of me). But like I said, I think you are a great parent.

 

[la flama blanca]

So he was picked on because of a racial stereotype? Gotcha.

Nah man, because of his braces.

 

[Like the hat?]

You was pick on because of this...

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Because "white people"? Ok.

Glad it's ok that I was beaten up and bullied for ten plus years because I'm white and other people have it worse or something.

 

[stufte]

Nah man, because of his braces.

His white people braces?

 

[Featheredkitten]

Shouldn't you let your kid play with this girl maybe he will be a good influence on this girl.

She comes over to our house quite a lot. We feel kind of sorry for her, we're pretty sure her dad is also abusive but can't prove...which means CPS won't investigate (we called them at one point).

Edit: Speak of the devil...

Double Edit (I do what i want):

Good on you, you sound like a fine parent. I'm very thankful for mine, and I'm sure your son will feel the same way when he is older.

EDIT: One thing I would suggest, is also telling your son (when you feel he's old enough to be told) about how racism is still around today. Because I know some people that had parents that raised them to not be racist. But because they've lived in a bubble where they haven't seen or experienced racism, they believe that racism ins't really a thing anymore. So while they themselves are not racist, and treat everyone equally, they might also assume that MOST of the world does the same thing.

I'm not a parent though, so I only offer my own humble suggestion. I have no idea how to raise a child (to be honest it scares the shit out of me). But like I said, I think you are a great parent.

I was raised not to be racist and I have to tell you I felt the same way when I moved to PA. "WTF? Racism is still a thing?" Shock, disgust, outrage. One of my professors has his doctorate in African American Studies in Science Fiction (or something like that) and we talk about racism and stuff a lot, I hope we're still friends as my son gets older...he's a great guy and would probably be the best one to explain the prevalence of racism still around. Especially with his first hand knowledge. :/

 

[Kimawolf]

She comes over to our house quite a lot. We feel kind of sorry for her, we're pretty sure her dad is also abusive but can't prove...which means CPS won't investigate (we called them at one point).

That is a rough spot, CPS is so... iffy with anything really I am not surprised.

 

[Playsation_]

Nah man, because of his braces.

Someone gets it.. ~_o

 

[stufte]

Someone gets it.. ~_o

I don't think they do. You think being bullied because of race is funny?

 

[Northeastmonk]

My deceased grandparents grew up in the south. My now deceased father grew up in North Carolina. And being completely honest none of them were ever racist. They believed we were all created equal and that I should show respect to one another. And I agree. But I also agree racism exist rather we exploit it for its damaging repercussions or because we just feel comfortable around people of the same race.

Granted I was very young, early to mid teens, but there seemed to be a lot of racist words thrown around. Typical stereotypes being said about certain people. And to be honest nobody corrected it or changed their minds. I don't think it can be solved behind closed doors, but I'm sure it can be corrected in the way we go about life. We ensure that we hold everyone of any race or ethnicity the same type and forms of freedom.

I also agree that the platinum rule is the best option. Treat people the way they want to be treated is sometimes the best way to go about things. There are differences in all of our cultures and lives.

 

[Coconut]

She comes over to our house quite a lot. We feel kind of sorry for her, we're pretty sure her dad is also abusive but can't prove...which means CPS won't investigate (we called them at one point).

Edit: Speak of the devil...

You are doing a good thing any way. At least some one is trying to do right by that kid.

 

[Kinitari]

Honestly, the most offensively racist things I've ever experienced have been at the hands of black people/Ethiopians. And those are far and few between, as well as pretty benign. A rant or two from some older black women, and a couple of older Ethiopian men telling me how I should/shouldn't behave as an Ethiopian male.

But that's BASICALLY it. I've lived my entire life without really being humiliated or overtly profiled or anything of the sort. I can't imagine anything else, the thought scares me.

Grew up and live in Toronto.

 

[Schlep]

Texas and more white than you know.

Haven't experienced too much in my life just being by myself, but going places with my girlfriend is anywhere from hilarious to annoying (she's black). We get that subtle racism a lot.

Examples:
Car battery died a couple weeks ago when we were getting something to drink. Asked a guy for a jump and he did, but kept commenting on how new my jumper cables were and "it looked like I was used to doing this." Harmless, just kinda funny.

On that same note, we were at the vet the other day because my dog is having issues with his jaw, and the vet gave a quote of $1300 and proceeded to say, "I understand that people in your position probably can't pay this" and after realizing what came out of her mouth, spent the next 5 minutes trying to remove the foot from her mouth. (Our combined income is into 6 digits for reference)

We went to look at a house and the guy in the model asked, "So are both of you looking for houses, or just one of you?" I couldn't hold in laughing that time.

We're constantly asked "just two?" when we go out to eat. It's actually really annoying.

We haven't run into anything overtly racist ever, but that subtle stuff happens a lot. Really dreading anything like that ever happening. Closest I've come is when we're out with her little brothers and I hold one/both of their hands to cross the street. Lightning rod, lol.

 

[Playsation_]

I don't think they do. You think being bullied because of race is funny?

..... no.

Lighten up a little. Take a breather. Go outside for once. No one is condoning anything.
Just trying to loosen up the obvious tension in the thread.

 

[Coconut]

Texas and more white than you know.

Haven't experienced too much in my life just being by myself, but going places with my girlfriend is anywhere from hilarious to annoying (she's black). We get that subtle racism a lot.

Examples:
Car battery died a couple weeks ago when we were getting something to drink. Asked a guy for a jump and he did, but kept commenting on how new my jumper cables were and "it looked like I was used to doing this." Harmless, just kinda funny.

On that same note, we were at the vet the other day because my dog is having issues with his jaw, and the vet gave a quote of $1300 and proceeded to say, "I understand that people in your position probably can't pay this" and after realizing what came out of her mouth, spent the next 5 minutes trying to remove the foot from her mouth. (Our combined income is into 6 digits for reference)

We went to look at a house and the guy in the model asked, "So are both of you looking for a house, or just one of you?" I couldn't hold in laughing that time.

We're constantly asked "just two?" when we go out to eat. It's actually really annoying.

We haven't run into anything overtly racist ever, but that subtle stuff happens a lot. Really dreading anything like that ever happening. Closest I've come is when we're out with her little brothers and I hold one/both of their hands to cross the street. Lightning rod, lol.

I get asked the just two thing with any girl I go out with.

..... no.

Lighten up a little. Take a breather. Go outside for once. No one is condoning anything.
Just trying to loosen up the obvious tension in the thread.

I don't think this is a tense thread at all. It was actually quite refreshing to be having a serious conversation with out judgement about modern racism. That is until you decided to ruin that.

 

[commedieu]

Because "white people"? Ok.

Glad it's ok that I was beaten up and bullied for ten plus years because I'm white and other people have it worse or something.

Ask yourself; Do I really think that black people are telling me its ok that I was bullied?

You were picked on, because you were a minority. Just like all minorities are picked on. You got to experience being a minority, which many people can't say.

 

[Mumei]

..... no.

Lighten up a little. Take a breather. Go outside for once. No one is condoning anything.
Just trying to loosen up the obvious tension in the thread.

It's not working. Stop.

 

[HamPster PamPster]

Years ago I was waiting for the subway with my headphones on when a black guy came up to me and started talking. I immediately said, without really hearing what he said, "sorry I don't have any change." He responded with "Oh come on man! I want directions!"

I still feel bad about it. He looked homeless but I always figured if he was white I wouldn't have been so fast to dismiss him

 

[Featheredkitten]

You are doing a good thing any way. At least some one is trying to do right by that kid.

It's a neighborhood concern, all the parents in the neighborhood talk about her situation and feel bad for her, but there's not a lot we can do.

 

[Schlep]

I get asked the just two thing with any girl I go out with

It's a slight difference, but around here if I'm out with someone else, I'll get, "two?" Usually the only times I get "just two?" is when I'm out with her. None of what I listed is that big of a deal, but when you run into multiple things a day, it all adds up to be a bit annoying.

 

[maxxpower]

As a somewhat light-skinned Mexican I avoid the sun to stay as light skinned as possible so that people don't instantly think I'm Hispanic. I'm not ashamed of being Hispanic but living in a town where 98% of the population is white I can't help but feel like an outsider. Every time I go to the supermarket all eyes will turn to me and it just gets kind of annoying after a while but there's nothing I can really do about it.

 

[siddhu33]

Live in the UK now, but am originally from India. Not as bad as it used to be, i missed out on the overt crap. Used to get called a paki a lot, but that's standard. Can't grow a beard if I'm going to the airport, get too many looks. That's about it, really...

 

[ShockingAlberto]

I have gotten beaten with a pipe in high school because of my skin color.

But yeah people calling you names is basically the same thing.

 

[SquiddyCracker]

Can't really recall any particular racist incidents.
Either I've repressed them all, or they weren't serious enough to make for a lasting memory.

 

[siddhu33]

I have gotten beaten with a pipe in high school because of my skin color.

But yeah people calling you names is basically the same thing.

Come on, nobody is trying to one-up each other here.

 

[Blood Diamonds]

So this one time I was at Jack in the Box and like I walked in and two white guys kept staring at me hatefully so I just stared back when they were eating and they left in a hurry lmao
then I ate my burger so yeah

 

[Joni]

I was once called a 'salle flamand' (dirty Fleming) and that is all my racist stories.

 

[aeolist]

hung out with a friend's black girlfriend and family a few times and i found out that (around here anyway) lots of african-americans dislike african immigrants and really look down on them

we have a lot of people from nigeria and ethiopia so it's a bit of a problem

 

[Xdrive05]

You got to experience being a minority, which many people can't say.

A majority of people, even. ; )

I'm a white dude in a black inner city neighborhood and I can add that my house and property is regularly vandalized where my neighbor's are not. I don't know that it's because we're white, but you must wonder when being the only racial minority on the block is the only standout feature of your household for the local vandal to get off. It's not my neighbors. They have been great and they are keeping an eye on the house when they can; we get along very well. We guess it's one of the dozens of kids who live a few streets over and are regularly passing thru.

I used to live in a small town that was white people only, and my god the fucking racist shit that would come out of a LOT of those people's mouths, old and young. They breed it in your bones.

And that's why I believe a great deal of racism would vanish if racists actually lived around people of a different color. You actually get to know people when you share a yard and a beer with them. Instead of just being another one of "those fuckin' people".

 

[Featheredkitten]

A majority of people, even. ; )

I'm a white dude in a black inner city neighborhood and I can add that my house and property is regularly vandalized where my neighbor's are not. I don't know that it's because we're white, but you must wonder when being the only racial minority on the block is the only standout feature of your household for the local vandal to get off. It's not my neighbors. They have been great and they are keeping an eye on the house when they can; we get along very well. We guess it's one of the dozens of kids who live a few streets over and are regularly passing thru.

I used to live in a small town that was white people only, and my god the fucking racist shit that would come out of a LOT of those people's mouths, old and young. They breed it in your bones.

And that's why I believe a great deal of racism would vanish if racists actually lived around people of a different color. You actually get to know people when you share a yard and a beer with them. Instead of just being another one of "those fuckin' people".

It would probably take more than that, but it would be a good start. I don't know for sure, but I think racists just don't see other people as people, it's the only thing that makes sense for why they feel that way. And that's sad.

 

[Coconut]

A majority of people, even. ; )

I'm a white dude in a black inner city neighborhood and I can add that my house and property is regularly vandalized where my neighbor's are not. I don't know that it's because we're white, but you must wonder when being the only racial minority on the block is the only standout feature of your household for the local vandal to get off. It's not my neighbors. They have been great and they are keeping an eye on the house when they can; we get along very well. We guess it's one of the dozens of kids who live a few streets over and are regularly passing thru.

I used to live in a small town that was white people only, and my god the fucking racist shit that would come out of a LOT of those people's mouths, old and young. They breed it in your bones.

And that's why I believe a great deal of racism would vanish if racists actually lived around people of a different color. You actually get to know people when you share a yard and a beer with them. Instead of just being another one of "those fuckin' people".

It's either they'd learn to get along or kill each other off.

 

[gutter_trash]

I've been called a stupid immigrant and told to go back to my country.
I was part of a wave of European immigrants from the 1970s moving to Canada.

Grew up in the suburbs of Montreal on the South-Shore in the 1980s in a pretty homogenous neighborhood: primarily white French-Canadian and ubber nationalistic/separatist.

They were not used to seeing immigrants or hearing families speak ''other'' languages, and they already hated hearing the English language for starters.

Today in 2013, things have gotten better over 30 years but there are still pockets of haters that linger in suburban and rural Quebec.
Montreal is pretty cool and diverse, people are more chill inside the city.

The biggest reason for their hate is because immigrants tend to vote Liberal and are pro-Canada (meaning that they vote NO in Referendums). So ethnic minorities tend to get the brunt of the blame for Separatists losing their Referendums or when Liberal governments get ushered into power.

 

[Miletius]

Wow, OP. That story is terrible. Nothing that bad ever happened to me, I think because my Asian heritage is way more obvious than my Hispanic heritage, looks wise. I've gotten the usual array of racial slurs directed at me.

2 incidents really stand out in my mind as bad incidents. One was when I at a parking lot at a video store, a group of teens were screaming obscenities and racial slurs at me (chink, go back to china, get back to the Chinese restaurant sort of thing, get back to making my Ipad, which is funny because I'm not actually Chinese). I was ignoring them because, teenagers, and they decided to drive close to try to let the passenger get a swipe at me. He missed but I think that could have been really bad mojo if he connected. They drove off after they saw how pissed I got at them.

2nd was just one of those typical racist girlfriend family stories. It's so weird because you can see that they kind of like you despite everything, but that just translates into really weird moments. Like when they talk about how both your ancestors were "warriors" and yours were just assholes too. Just weird things like that, mostly.

 

[fluffydelusions]

I guess I'll repost from the other racism thread here on gaf lol

I'm white and I've lived in a "ghetto" area in NYC and definitely heard racial slurs against me. I was also jumped and robbed at knife point on the street I lived by a bunch of black guys so yeah...

 

[Sane_Man]

I've got a bunch, but this one was pretty funny/bizarre.

I went to a party on campus at UC Santa Cruz, and it was one of the most bizarrely racist experiences of the life. I went with my housemates and a Palestenian friend who brought along 4 of her Palestenian friends (this is important). Anyways, we arrive there and I head over to the kitchen to get a drink with a friend of mine. As I'm making a drink, some random white dude walks over to us and starts chatting. He tells us he's a stand up comedian, and then asks us if we like Racial jokes. I'm interested in where this is going, so I went along with it. Anyways, he asks me what my racial background is, and I'm like "Black, Spanish, Sicilian Irish and Japanese," and he said "Oh you're black? I love a good Nigger joke!" Keep in mind that I've known this guy for all of 5 minutes at this point. Anyways, he throws out his joke "What did the black man get on his SAT test?" Me and my friends were stumped. Then he said "BBQ sauce." He then turns to my friend and says "I don't even have to ask what you are with that Jew fro and nose of yours," and then transitions into his joke. Dude went hard on the Jews. "Why are Jewish people good at Math? Because they've got numbers on their arms." ; "Why did the Jew cross the road? To steal the land." "How many Jews can you fit in a Volkswagon? Two in the front, two in the back and as couple more in the ash tray." What. the. fuck. We're completely taken aback so we basically just walk away, I wasn't drunk enough for that crap.

Anyways, maybe 15-20 minutes later, I'm talking to some people when all of a sudden I thought I heard someone scream "NIGGGGGGER!" I turned around, and nobody looked phase, so I think to myself that I'm just hearing stuff. What I didn't know (my friend told me later) is that some short white girl drunk off her shit ran into the room, threw her hands in the air and screamed "NIGGGGGER!" at the top of her lungs like it was going out of style. My friend overheard her and approached her, and asked her what the was with that. And she's like "Oh don't worry, there's no black people here." And he's like uh, yeah there is and points to me. And he instigates the subject "That dude's militant black. He doesn't play that shit. I've seen him clock a girl before for some similar shit," all while looking and pointing at me. I look over and see him talking to some girl and pointing at me, so I head on over. Right when I walk up, the girl turns to me like she's seen a ghost and yells "I'm sorry, I thought you were Mexican!" and then runs out the room. I was like WTF? since I didn't know any of the leadup.

Same party, and I'm talking to my Palestenian friend and her friends, all of which are Palestenian. Some white dude who had been smoking the entire time and was baked, walks over and is like "Hey, Ya'll Latinas?" in the most bro accent you've ever heard. I just start laughing. They're like "No, we're Palestian." and he's like "Oh. Well I'm not really into white girls anymore and I'm looking for something a little bit more exotic, and Arabs would be a nice stepping stone." They just brush it off, all the while I'm cracking up. He asks "What's your names?" They tell him and he said "I'm not going to remember them, so how about I just call all of you the Mujahidin?" At this point, one of her friends throws her drink at him. He sits there a moment, and then says "I know you're Muslim and all, but there's no need to blow up on me like that." We leave pretty soon after... That entire party was trippy.

Good God! That all sounds fucking mental. It sounds like the most awful yet fun party of all time.

I guess I'll repost from the other racism thread here on gaf lol

No way... I assume that guy isn't still around?

 

[Infinite]

Well mostly, everyone assumes I'm a criminal or dangerous when they look at me. I was hanging out in rich neighborhoods where more friends lives and a couple of times when I'm by myself white women who walk pass me shield their breast. idk what's that about.

I also gotten beat up by other black children for being Caribbean and was called coconut and told how i should go back to my island. Also got wailed on because my peers assumed I was gay.

 

[Nibel]

Our coach and his dad (the principle) heard him say this. My coach got upset, but his dad (the principle) calmed him down and said "I'm sure he just meant he's fierce like a gorilla."

I really don't know what to think of this sentence :lol

Most stuff here is really heartbreaking - people can be so cruel. As a German with Kurdish roots I was confronted with racism here and there, but not to the extent as some others here have experienced; really terrible.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

People think im Hispanic so sometimes I get people saying Spanish words to me in a derogatory way.

 

[CrazyDogg77]

I've had the police literally follow me down the street as I walking doing nothing. One time I was walking my dog through my neighborhood and this guy rode past me on his four wheeler and just screamed nigger at the top of his lungs at me.

 

[Telosfortelos]

My wife was driving around listening to rap yesterday, and a guy pulled up to her and screamed n-- lover. If I were there, I don't know what I would have done. I was so angry. I still am.

My wife and I are white, but my brother is black, and my 13 year old niece is coming to visit us next week. It wrecks me when I think about the things she's seen and experienced and will experience. I would do anything for that girl, and yet I know I can't protect her. I can't keep her safe. It tares me up.

 

[Cedric]

I'm black, so yeah I have plenty of stories. Worse that happened to me is that I was at a party and had too much to drink, I passed out in a driveway and the whole night two white guys were throwing beer bottles at me while screaming "Nigger on the floor, nigger on the floor!".

Another time I was eating at a Tim Hortons when these two white guys that were outside kept staring at me. When I finally got out the place, they approached me and tried to start a fight because apparently I was staring at them. I avoided any conflict and while I was walking away one of them screamed "Fuckin nigger!".

I've dealt with a lot of subtle racism also, these are just the most obvious ones.

edit: I live in Canada next to Ottawa

 

[casmith07]

I'm a black man living in the DC area. I'm clean cut, professional, and I think I generally look pleasant most of the time.

Every time I've ridden the Metro during rush hour, I end up sitting alone. Why? Because nobody wants to sit next to the black man. It's subtle, but it cuts every time.

 

[Featheredkitten]

I'm a black man living in the DC area. I'm clean cut, professional, and I think I generally look pleasant most of the time.

Every time I've ridden the Metro during rush hour, I end up sitting alone. Why? Because nobody wants to sit next to the black man. It's subtle, but it cuts every time.

I'd sit next to you

 

[casmith07]

I'd sit next to you

Thanks. I know it shouldn't hurt my feelings when it happens (every time), and I know that it's "expected" I guess...but it's like I look at my watch and it's 2013 and I'm like, man, really?

 

[SonicMegaDrive]

One time a black dude got kind of irate with me while I was listening to Timex Social Club. I guess he felt I wasn't 'black' enough.

 

[Featheredkitten]

Thanks. I know it shouldn't hurt my feelings when it happens (every time), and I know that it's "expected" I guess...but it's like I look at my watch and it's 2013 and I'm like, man, really?

It shouldn't be happening, and maybe it shouldn't hurt your feelings, but it does. Nothing wrong with that, no one likes being treated differently. I don't get the expected part, but that's just me, i'll make friends and sit next to anyone (who doesn't look creepy and/or murderous(obviously murderous, like wielding a knife or something(large knife))).

 

[casmith07]

When I was homeschooled I played junior high basketball for a private Baptist school. One of our away games was in Howell, Michigan, which an area with the largest KKK membership in the state. The school we played against was pretty bad, and we won by double digits. After the game both teams lined up to shake hands, and I noticed a few of their players refused to shake mine. Later I heard one of them outright say "I don't shake hands with monkeys haha." Our coach and his dad (the principle) heard him say this. My coach got upset, but his dad (the principle) calmed him down and said "I'm sure he just meant he's fierce like a gorilla."

Later we went to Burger King to eat. When I got up to order my food the person clearly wasn't thrilled with me being there, and said "what the hell do you want" under her breath. I ordered. Everybody got their food before me, and I probably ordered before half the team. When my stuff was ready she threw the tray on the table, lazily dropped my food on it, and said "shoo."

I ate a couple fries and threw my food away.

There was a really cool store here at the mall that sold a lot of really cool things like those imported Mega Man X model action figures, Gundam Wing stuff, etc. I was a huge nerd so I stopped in, probably when I was 12 or 13 to browse. I remember specifically looking for the standard blue armor X figure, since I already had the X2 powered up model and Zero.

I was browsing around, looking at anime DVDs and other things, when I overheard the old, fat lady behind the counter say to the older teen girl working the register: "tell that nigger to get out of my store before he steals something."

I left, went home, and cried later. Never told my parents what happened.

 

[CrazyDogg77]

I'm a black man living in the DC area. I'm clean cut, professional, and I think I generally look pleasant most of the time.

Every time I've ridden the Metro during rush hour, I end up sitting alone. Why? Because nobody wants to sit next to the black man. It's subtle, but it cuts every time.

Yeah I go to school in DC. And I notice this whenever I'm on the metro.

 

[vikki]

I now live in New Hampshire and have definitely felt out of place on many occasions due to race and my appearance. it's one of those things that's kind of hard to fully comprehend in the hypothetical sense.

I'm from NH and I now live in Queens, but I have never felt out of place here. My wife, on the other hand, feels a bit out of place in NH, she is Trini of Indian decent. I can't say I've ever witnessed racism in NH, but that has a lot to do with it being 96% white.

 

[casmith07]

It shouldn't be happening, and maybe it shouldn't hurt your feelings, but it does. Nothing wrong with that, no one likes being treated differently. I don't get the expected part, but that's just me, i'll make friends and sit next to anyone (who doesn't look creepy and/or murderous(obviously murderous, like wielding a knife or something(large knife))).

I've grown more and more cynical as I've gotten older. My family was a military family so every school I went to and every neighborhood I lived in was filled with kids and families from every ethnic background imaginable. I've always cared for people first, regardless of what they look like (minus the knife-wielding stuff like you said...Creeper McCreeperson is no friend of mine).

I was sitting at a table for lunch at college and back when that Grutter v. Bollinger case was going on, the upperclassmen were talking about it. When someone asked this one guy about it, he said "of course [our college] uses affirmative action, how do you think Smith got in?"

If I wasn't a freshman I would've punched him. Instead, I slipped a copy of my high school transcript under his door a few days later. I graduated with a 3.9.