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[Raging Spaniard]

There are always exceptions, but it was a trainwreck for most people. Trying to make it sound like it was solid at launch is just not true. Ranked searching never worked(I'm not even sure it works works now) and the lag was worse than SF at launch(which was acceptable). It was certainly not good and laggier than usual.

I just dont agree man, i agree that the UI was poorly conceived but from personal experience (ranked and player matches) once I got to a match it was very close to a SF IV experience (and it being a much faster game, plus 3v3 left a positive impression) As far as everybody else, I dont recall people in the MvC3 thread bitching any more than usual, like in this thread, for example.

 

[LakeEarth]

I played against an Akuma, and after he took the first round, I thought he taunted post victory. I didn't realize that Akuma did a pose and then did another pose after getting a win. So, I proceeded to taunt him after winning the next two rounds. I felt bad afterwards.

Hey, you gotta get that taunting achievement somehow.

 

[sixteen-bit]

I played against an Akuma, and after he took the first round, I thought he taunted post victory. I didn't realize that Akuma did a pose and then did another pose after getting a win. So, I proceeded to taunt him after winning the next two rounds. I felt bad afterwards.

It sounds like he taunted. I think Akuma only does one action during his winpose.

 

[bs000]

If I could find a 3S machine I'd probably pump $15 into it in a day anyway.

At least, that's how I justify it...

 

[SiegfriedFM]

Downloading the PS3 version now (Europe). Add me: MikeProtagonist

 

[ScOULaris]

I played against an Akuma, and after he took the first round, I thought he taunted post victory. I didn't realize that Akuma did a pose and then did another pose after getting a win. So, I proceeded to taunt him after winning the next two rounds. I felt bad afterwards.

I always taunt with Akuma before the win pose. Feels good, man.

 

[Maxrunner]

but seriously tho - this is a MUCH better game.

Does that really matter??since when the quality of a game has been the main factor to price it??ive played this game many times, i shouldnt be asked a inadequate price just because they added new functions to a game that's basically done for how many years???

 

[galvatron]

They need to set it by ping or at least give me a friggin' option.

Here's the interview I was talking about:

Why matchmaking sucks

 

[distortedimagery]

Im Just getting full version now, if any body wishes to fight a complete scrub or use me to practice on then add D1ablo_J1n Cheers

I still havent picked a character yet so will be maining with Ryu or ken (rollseyes) Never really played SFIII so its quite new to me

 

[SolarPowered]

I just dont agree man, i agree that the UI was poorly conceived but from personal experience (ranked and player matches) once I got to a match it was very close to a SF IV experience (and it being a much faster game, plus 3v3 left a positive impression) As far as everybody else, I dont recall people in the MvC3 thread bitching any more than usual, like in this thread, for example.

I spent way too much time in the MvC3 threads and I saw a lot of bitching, but this game has all the features in place to make it a fun fighter if the online gets better which is a little harder to to say for spectator-less MvC3.

I'm more than willing to wait it out on this one since solid online titles BlazBlue were a little finicky before they really took off. The part I don't get is how me and my friend who have green bars on everything(25 MINUTES DAMMIT) are yellow. Do you have to live in the same building as someone to have it green? It ain't like my connection is bad, I have great games with gaffers who live on the other side of the US...

 

[ScOULaris]

GAF really has a way of nitpicking to the point of making every new title sound awful by consensus. Do I hope that they fix the matchmaking and tweak a few online features in future patches? Sure I do. But I'm still having a great time with 3S:OE because I finally get to play Third Strike against a large pool of competition. The fact that I get to play it on my HD TV with my HRAP3 makes it even better, since I missed out on 3S when it was in arcades.

Come on, guys. This is still a really slick package for $15, and GGPO's worst-case scenario is still much more playable than SSFIV's slow-motion, input-ruining play under laggy circumstances.

I also appreciate the ability to turn remixed tracks on or off on a per-stage basis. That's just cool. You can also replace the default title track if the rapping starts to grate on you after a while.

 

[Sayah]

Trying really hard to enjoy this but can't seem to get into it. Is SFIV pretty similar to this with combos that give barely a time window to connect attacks and require me do circle rotations all over the d-pad? Maybe back then, the game was considered a genre definer but at the current moment I can't seem to be enjoying it as much as I enjoy other fighters.

 

[GuardianE]

It sounds like he taunted. I think Akuma only does one action during his winpose.

Oh. Well then I don't feel bad anymore.

 

[Carl]

Wow i suck at this game

 

[Terareflection]

Trying really hard to enjoy this but can't seem to get into it. Is SFIV pretty similar to this with combos that give barely a time window to connect attacks and require me do circle rotations all over the d-pad? Maybe back then, the game was considered a genre definer but at the current moment I can't seem to be enjoying it as much as I enjoy other fighters.

Do you play mostly 3D fighters? Circle motion are in every 2D fighter. You will get used to it though.

 

[Apoc87]

Sorry if it's been posted before, but can anyone figure out how to turn visible button inputs on in training mode?

Can't remember if you could in the original third strike, but I can't think of a fighting game that doesn't have this option.

If the option isn't there, then it's really fucking stupid.

 

[ThatCrazyGuy]

This. I was really hyped of this because of GGPO, and was disappointed.

I guess Tekken producer Harada was right.

That's a cool interview, I had never seen it yet.

 

[Raging Spaniard]

I spent way too much time in the MvC3 threads and I saw a lot of bitching, but this game has all the features in place to make it a fun fighter if the online gets better which is a little harder to to say for spectator-less MvC3.

I'm more than willing to wait it out on this one since solid online titles BlazBlue were a little finicky before they really took off. The part I don't get is how me and my friend who have green bars on everything(25 MINUTES DAMMIT) are yellow. Do you have to live in the same building as someone to have it green? It ain't like my connection is bad, I have great games with gaffers who live on the other side of the US...

Well, at least were arguing like gentlemen.

Internet shit is always so finicky, all my games always work fine,but then using Netflix on my consoles always kills my connection for some reason. (as in, it signs me out of the service)

 

[Sayah]

Do you play mostly 3D fighters? Circle motion are in every 2D fighter. You will get used to it though.

Yeah, I mostly grew up with 3D fighters (Tekken, Soul Calibur, Dead or Alive). I found MvC3 easy to get into but the combos are just insane to pull off in this one and I can't even imagine doing them with any sort of online lag present.

 

[bob_arctor]

Trying really hard to enjoy this but can't seem to get into it. Is SFIV pretty similar to this with combos that give barely a time window to connect attacks and require me do circle rotations all over the d-pad? Maybe back then, the game was considered a genre definer but at the current moment I can't seem to be enjoying it as much as I enjoy other fighters.

If you're not willing to put in the work to learn then you're wasting your time.

 

[Sayah]

Sorry if it's been posted before, but can anyone figure out how to turn visible button inputs on in training mode?

Can't remember if you could in the original third strike, but I can't think of a fighting game that doesn't have this option.

If the option isn't there, then it's really fucking stupid.

I believe I did see the option in menu somewhere to display button inputs. Do a good search of the pause menu.

 

[GuardianE]

Yeah, I mostly grew up with 3D fighters (Tekken, Soul Calibur, Dead or Alive). I found MvC3 easy to get into but the combos are just insane to pull off in this one and I can't even imagine doing them with any sort of online lag present.

You probably just don't have the muscle memory yet. It takes time. Keep in mind that some of the more advanced combos in the trial mode are pretty much useless or for styling.

 

[ShaneB]

I believe I did see the option in menu somewhere to display button inputs. Do a good search of the pause menu.

Want someone to confirm this, I could not find it either last night and it really upset.

 

[Sayah]

If you're not willing to put in the work to learn then you're wasting your time.

I'm not giving up on it already. I just need to find a main first. I'll probably go with Akuma, Ibuki, or Dudley. If I'm hopefully able to get into this game and master it with at least one character, then that should make the transition into SFIV easier for me.

 

[Terareflection]

Much older and less balanced aswell.

Who cares if the game is old if it is good, and balance doesn't matter to most of us because we are new.

 

[Sayah]

Want someone to confirm this, I could not find it either last night and it really upset.

Just started the game. I'll check and let you know soon.

 

[GuardianE]

I'm not giving up on it already. I just need to find a main first. I'll probably go with Akuma, Ibuki, or Dudley. If I'm hopefully able to get into this game and master it with at least one character, then that should make the transition into SFIV easier for me.

Street Fighter IV is really different. I mean, practice with any Capcom fighter will help you learn the basics and improve your execution, so it'll definitely prepare you. Not quite sure if a transition from Third Strike to SFIV or a transition from SFIV to Third Strike is easier.

 

[ProtoCents]

I'm not giving up on it already. I just need to find a main first. I'll probably go with Akuma, Ibuki, or Dudley. If I'm hopefully able to get into this game and master it with at least one character, then that should make the transition into SFIV easier for me.

I'd lower your expectations. Fighting games are a continuous learning experience. It is very rare that a character is mastered.

 

[Sayah]

I thought that if you turned the "attack data" on under "training options," it would display the inputs. But nevermind, it only shows the amount of damage you inflict. Besides that, I don't see anything else either.

 

[hsin]

If I could find a 3S machine I'd probably pump $15 into it in a day anyway.

At least, that's how I justify it...

I did that all throughout the first year of University

Street Fighter IV is really different. I mean, practice with any Capcom fighter will help you learn the basics and improve your execution, so it'll definitely prepare you. Not quite sure if a transition from Third Strike to SFIV or a transition from SFIV to Third Strike is easier.

IMO, SFIV to 3S seems easier.

 

[kitzkozan]

I believe I did see the option in menu somewhere to display button inputs. Do a good search of the pause menu.

You need timing and dexterity to pull off the hardest combo yes, but the game isn't about 1 frame links like SFIV. But yes, pulling off big combos in SFII, III and IV has never been the easiest thing. Parrying demand it's own timing as well, especially since it will differ for every type of attack (normal, special, ex, super) . Keep practicing and you will eventually develop the muscle memory which will make things easier.

 

[jett]

Here's the interview I was talking about:

Why matchmaking sucks

I guess we are screwed then. :|

 

[Apoc87]

No button inputs in training mode
no way to get rid of trophy/achievement displays on side bars
kinda crappy online
no original music

WINNING

 

[Sayah]

I'd lower your expectations. Fighting games are a continuous learning experience. It is very rare that a character is mastered.

Well, replace "master" with "get experienced" with at least one character.

Street Fighter IV is really different. I mean, practice with any Capcom fighter will help you learn the basics and improve your execution, so it'll definitely prepare you. Not quite sure if a transition from Third Strike to SFIV or a transition from SFIV to Third Strike is easier.

Well, SFIV does come after so I was hoping it would work that way, haha. Maybe I'll just pick up AE next time I'm buying games.

 

[SarcasticD]

I played against an Akuma, and after he took the first round, I thought he taunted post victory. I didn't realize that Akuma did a pose and then did another pose after getting a win. So, I proceeded to taunt him after winning the next two rounds. I felt bad afterwards.

I always taunt after I win. I even do it during the match since Elena's taunt causes knock down.

 

[hsin]

They need to set it by ping or at least give me a friggin' option.

I agree. It's getting quite annoying.

 

[Sayah]

I did that all throughout the first year of University



IMO, SFIV to 3S seems easier.

Really? Maybe I'll hold off on this and get SFIV first.

You need timing and dexterity to pull off the hardest combo yes, but the game isn't about 1 frame links like SFIV. But yes, pulling off big combos in SFII, III and IV has never been the easiest thing. Parrying demand it's own timing as well, especially since it will differ for every type of attack (normal, special, ex, super) . Keep practicing and you will eventually develop the muscle memory which will make things easier.

Gonna have to put insane hours in SF. Had to do the same for Tekken 6 and MvC3. I must get better or I won't do well in any tournaments at school.

 

[Soulstar]

It's sad to hear that people are having such problems on online games because it's been very smooth for the most part for me. There were a couple rounds that the background music just disappeared though which was odd.

 

[Rickenslacker]

No button inputs in training mode
no way to get rid of trophy/achievement displays on side bars
kinda crappy online
no original music

WINNING

The original music is there, you unlock it through the vault and can set it as the music. Sucks about the side bar stuff though, it's a bit distracting and the only means of getting rid of it is going stretched/widescreen.

 

[Sayah]

It's sad to hear that people are having such problems on online games because it's been very smooth for the most part for me. There were a couple rounds that the background music just disappeared though which was odd.

I only had one or two laggy matches. Everything else was pretty good.

 

[oracrest]

The PSN GAF chat invite, is that a permanent ongoing room that gaffers go to, or are you guys creating new ones? I haven't used the PSN chats/rooms before.


Also, anyone else wanting sprite avatars, just shoot me a PM with your character and color scheme...

 

[LakeEarth]

I'm not giving up on it already. I just need to find a main first. I'll probably go with Akuma, Ibuki, or Dudley. If I'm hopefully able to get into this game and master it with at least one character, then that should make the transition into SFIV easier for me.

I suggest Alex to most beginners. He does big damage, 2-4 hit combos max, and relatively simple.

 

[galvatron]

It's sad to hear that people are having such problems on online games because it's been very smooth for the most part for me. There were a couple rounds that the background music just disappeared though which was odd.

I had that too. That bug was also in CvS2 on xbox at launch, so maybe it's a tradition

 

[SarcasticD]

It's sad to hear that people are having such problems on online games because it's been very smooth for the most part for me. There were a couple rounds that the background music just disappeared though which was odd.

My only problem with online is the matchmaking and losing my spot in lobbies. Other than that, it's going well for me. Even though the ping can be a little deceiving.

 

[Sayah]

I suggest Alex to most beginners. He does big damage, 2-4 hit combos max, and relatively simple.

Thanks. I'll start practice with him right now actually.

 

[Foxtastical]

Man, did a player match. Played like 5 or so games in a row. Really had a blast, felt like old times again.

Ranked matches aren't doing it for me yet, too many issues. Is there a GAF 3rd Strike group (region based perhaps) or something? I'm from Midwestern US.

 

[Grokbu]

I hate getting this join failed error when trying to join a lobby, and it only happens with one person. :/

 

[sixteen-bit]

Man, did a player match. Played like 5 or so games in a row. Really had a blast, felt like old times again.

Ranked matches aren't doing it for me yet, too many issues. Is there a GAF 3rd Strike group (region based perhaps) or something? I'm from Midwestern US.

PSN has a 3S GAF chatroom and XBL has the 3S metatag. See OP.

 

[Sayah]

How do you do those charging attacks with Alex?

 

[LakeEarth]

Thanks. I'll start practice with him right now actually.

Gonna throw out some Alex notes here:
- use meter for EX, unless you get a juicy opportunity for super damage
- EX elbow charge is fast and can punish a lot of stuff
- d.fp is a decent anti-air and it hits twice, but if it hits once you can combo afterwards (I'd suggest his dp kick move as it causes a knockdown)
- standing fierce is his overhead. Use it on wakeup. When they get scared of it, time to command throw. If they start parrying it, start using the b-fierce headbutt move (and of course if they start reversal/super on wakeup, start blocking).
- forward fierce seems like an awesome anti-air, but if they parry it they get a fat combo so be wary
- use stomps sparingly, they are really good as it is an overhead, but again, good players can parry it on reaction
- use his punch command throw (power bomb) and not his kick command throw (ddt)
- Bread and butter combo - jump fierce -> standing medium kick -> jab flash punch. Does crazy damage, and you can make it even more damaging (and causes a knockdown) by EXing the flash punch. You should get this combo down, it isn't hard.
- fierce flash punch leads to crazy damage, but really slow. Use only for punishment situations.

EDIT:
His elbow charge is hold back for two seconds, forward and kick. His stomps are charge down then up and kick.