Gipsy Danger
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Street Fighter V |OT3| Frauds Among Us
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Reversal EX SBK needs charge, if you time it a lil bit before where I would normally hit up+2k, my input gets eaten and didn't see that coming because I did it during the freeze. Now, i have no down charge and have block or jump meaty throw if I have no super.
I'm guessing it's like the super flash in KOF, it eats the opponent's inputs.
I believe doing single player content won't count your earned FM if you're offline (unless I'm mistaken).
So you might as well make yourself the mother of all sandwiches.
So you might as well make yourself the mother of all sandwiches.
That works too.
Ah... interesting, thanks. Definitely will keep it in mind as an answer to Chun-Li's reversal.
Hmm...I see.
If that's the case, then it seems like Capcom basically wanted to gift Daigo EVO or their Pro Tour Finals.
But in reality, given the state the game is in, and how Ono wanted Yun/Yang to be super OP for Arcade Mode, I'm not surprised they made a character is the best at damn near everything.
CrackpotDesert
Banned
Just the walk speed upgrade it gives is a huge deal for him.
At least 5 scarys?
Yes. Super flashes vt flash are for style, if it didn't ignore inputs you'd be hit. It doesn't ignore directions, just buttons so you have time it like a reversal.
Yeah, I saw how dumb my question was immediately after posting.
I've been mostly playing Laura because of her aesthetics, but not too big a fan of her gameplay design.
There's so many times I want to whiff punish someone but my normals don't reach, so I end up getting punished myself. Don't have this issue with Karin.
But once she gets in blah blah blah. Trying out Ken next
I've been mostly playing Laura because of her aesthetics, but not too big a fan of her gameplay design.
There's so many times I want to whiff punish someone but my normals don't reach, so I end up getting punished myself. Don't have this issue with Karin.
But once she gets in blah blah blah. Trying out Ken next
The Lone Dragon
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CrackpotDesert
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Damage boost on every move he has, even normals. He has the potential to do something like 760 damage on a very specific crush counter combo that you're never going to see in a real match.
Walk speed increase.
He might as well be made out of spikes during his EX Bull Head.
CrackpotDesert
Banned
If you're on point with your normals, V Trigger will clinch the match for you. Bull Revenger does not drain meter, either, so you need to be on watch for that move even more.
"God's Beard!"
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Does anybody here understand how the frame data on wakeup works? I'm trying to develop a new meaty setup.
Ryu has a bunch of knockdowns that are either naturally or with a dash +20 if your opponent quick rises. Sweep, LK Tatsu, HP Shoryuken, etc.
Crouching short should have 13 total frames. 4 startup, 2 active and 7 recovery. So if I do sweep -> cLK, that should leave me +7, right?
sMP has 5 frames of startup and 3 active frames, so it should be a good meaty at that point but if I input sweep, cLK, sMP as fast as possible the MP whiffs.
What am I missing?
I know that MP shoryuken, dash is +6, and doing sMP afterward hits on the 2nd active frame which lets me combo MP into sweep.
So going from a +6 to +7 setup should hit on the third active frame right? This would allow me to link sMP into sRH on counterhit which is a great setup. What am I missing? Do whiffed normals' active frames get sucked into recovery or something?
Ryu has a bunch of knockdowns that are either naturally or with a dash +20 if your opponent quick rises. Sweep, LK Tatsu, HP Shoryuken, etc.
Crouching short should have 13 total frames. 4 startup, 2 active and 7 recovery. So if I do sweep -> cLK, that should leave me +7, right?
sMP has 5 frames of startup and 3 active frames, so it should be a good meaty at that point but if I input sweep, cLK, sMP as fast as possible the MP whiffs.
What am I missing?
I know that MP shoryuken, dash is +6, and doing sMP afterward hits on the 2nd active frame which lets me combo MP into sweep.
So going from a +6 to +7 setup should hit on the third active frame right? This would allow me to link sMP into sRH on counterhit which is a great setup. What am I missing? Do whiffed normals' active frames get sucked into recovery or something?
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";200797918]Does anybody here understand how the frame data on wakeup works? I'm trying to develop a new meaty setup.
Ryu has a bunch of knockdowns that are either naturally or with a dash +20 if your opponent quick rises. Sweep, LK Tatsu, HP Shoryuken, etc.
Crouching short should have 13 total frames. 4 startup, 2 active and 7 recovery. So if I do sweep -> cLK, that should leave me +7, right?
sMP has 5 frames of startup and 3 active frames, so it should be a good meaty at that point but if I input sweep, cLK, sMP as fast as possible the MP whiffs.
What am I missing?
I know that MP shoryuken, dash is +6, and doing sMP afterward hits on the 2nd active frame which lets me combo MP into sweep.
So going from a +6 to +7 setup should hit on the third active frame right? This would allow me to link sMP into sRH on counterhit which is a great setup. What am I missing? Do whiffed normals' active frames get sucked into recovery or something?[/QUOTE]
Don't count the active frames. The frame data start up means hits on frame 4 i think bevause i doubt his crLK hits on frame 5. 4+7 is 11 or 5+7 is 12 since recovery is calculated on first active frame hitting.
Edit: yeah srk wiki does start up as first active frame so start up + recovery is total frames
Ryu has a bunch of knockdowns that are either naturally or with a dash +20 if your opponent quick rises. Sweep, LK Tatsu, HP Shoryuken, etc.
Crouching short should have 13 total frames. 4 startup, 2 active and 7 recovery. So if I do sweep -> cLK, that should leave me +7, right?
sMP has 5 frames of startup and 3 active frames, so it should be a good meaty at that point but if I input sweep, cLK, sMP as fast as possible the MP whiffs.
What am I missing?
I know that MP shoryuken, dash is +6, and doing sMP afterward hits on the 2nd active frame which lets me combo MP into sweep.
So going from a +6 to +7 setup should hit on the third active frame right? This would allow me to link sMP into sRH on counterhit which is a great setup. What am I missing? Do whiffed normals' active frames get sucked into recovery or something?[/QUOTE]
Don't count the active frames. The frame data start up means hits on frame 4 i think bevause i doubt his crLK hits on frame 5. 4+7 is 11 or 5+7 is 12 since recovery is calculated on first active frame hitting.
Edit: yeah srk wiki does start up as first active frame so start up + recovery is total frames
It's not about being "scared" to do anything about it. Daigo called the move kusoge and Infiltration called it cheap for a reason. The risk-reward of stuffing this move on raw reaction (not talking about typical online Chuns who use it predictably and can easily be AA'd) is heavily skewed towards Chun's favour. It's advantaged on block and gives her a combo into super. She can choose to do it or not do it on any particular jump in. If you were expecting Chun to cross you up and you intended to air-to-air as retaliation (standard counter-action for most of the cast outside of characters like Birdie) she could mix you up with this option and stuff you completely.
It's very low commitment and at worst she takes a weak-ass 1 button punish. The level of pressure/potential pressure it creates is in the vein of Ken/Cammy's EX dive kicks or Bison's fireball. All options which require meter. This move easily puts Chun into top tier category rather than regular high tier IMO. Top Japanese/American tournament players (not online message board warriors) put her at #1 or #2 for a reason and she is unanimously on every player's top 5 list (regardless of skill level). This is something no other character can boast about.
That being said it's not all that strong, just relatively very strong in this game since most things in this game are pretty tame in offensive power. It's most effective when used sparingly/when your opponent least expects it to cash in on the free damage.
Not as scary as Chun's
Active frames (-1 for the one included in the startup) should be counted for total move duration. The recovery is the same regardless of when the attack hits - it's the frame advantage that changes depending on which active frame connects.
Shadow_Lord
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How do you guys know the advantage of KD moves, like HP Shoryu, Sweep, etc? All the guides I see only say KD for hit advantage.
Garrett Hawke
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I hope we get a stage where it is raining.
I've been using this spreadsheet which gives knockdown values for the full duration and quick rise and backwards rise. It doesn't seem to have the info for absolutely everything yet, but it's still a pretty good reference.
CrackpotDesert
Banned
Elaborate plez, I do not play her.
Her hands glow blue and she hits you twice. Duh.
CrackpotDesert
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I've never been really afraid of it. I just block a bit longer and V Reversal a lot.
30 fps rain?
Garrett Hawke
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I take it back.
Only mk iaLL is plus on block. Hard to tell which you blocked though but it hours twice on crouch block. Once is Lk iaLL and that falls faster.
A light attack AA is still an AA and stops her. Saying not enough damage is moot.
Yes the risk reward is skewed in her favor like, yes it's a good tool. Without it, she's still Top 4/5.
This is not true.
Hellshingu
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I prefer this one myself:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XB1GW6Lk6yK176Nm8_l3cSxPowWxHfiRRh7qOess77E/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true#
The above worksheet has KD, KDR, and KDRB. These stand for knockdown without recovery, knockdown with recovery, and knockdown with backwards recovery. You will take those numbers in those columns based on what they do when they get knocked down to get your advantage.
I think everyone just posts here after lobbies or in between matches.
K thanks, I'll just make it a point to be active
sixteen-bit
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a logo idea I made:
DUH-DUN
Correct, perfectly timed dash is 0. crlp trades with other 3f normals, beats anything slower.
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Troubled Bat
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I can't wait for my stage of mayhem and fire.
Yep first stop was GAF second was twitter
sixteen-bit
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Son Of Sparda
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Can anyone help me with Bison's 7th trial?
I just can't get the (HP --> Psycho Blast --> EX Double Knee Press) bit down.
No matter how much I try I just can't cancel the Psycho Blast to EX DKP if I have land a HP at first. Even when I'm training outside of the combo to get this bit down I still can't do it.
I activate V-Trigger and try (Psycho Blast -> EX DKP) without the HP at the beginning and I can do it just fine. But just as I try (HP --> Psycho Blast --> EX Double Knee Press) I can't do it and it won't cancel into EX DKP.
Am I doing something wrong? Is there a trick to this?
I just can't get the (HP --> Psycho Blast --> EX Double Knee Press) bit down.
No matter how much I try I just can't cancel the Psycho Blast to EX DKP if I have land a HP at first. Even when I'm training outside of the combo to get this bit down I still can't do it.
I activate V-Trigger and try (Psycho Blast -> EX DKP) without the HP at the beginning and I can do it just fine. But just as I try (HP --> Psycho Blast --> EX Double Knee Press) I can't do it and it won't cancel into EX DKP.
Am I doing something wrong? Is there a trick to this?
CrackpotDesert
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Do you have to be in V Trigger for this combo? What is it asking?
Are you trying to charge the EX Double Knee? Because with his VTrigger active you don't need to charge any follow specials.
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