minimumhippo
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Does it not look at your LP during casual matches? I'm getting matched up with ridiculous people. Just fought a 6000+ and 7000+ and I'm only 1500 lol. This really isn't fun.
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Street Fighter V |OT3| Frauds Among Us
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lucebuce12
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I must be facing some truly terrible Lauras because I genuinely have never seen a Laura go for a st.HP CC. Didn't even know that it did, wow.
The St.hp is then definitely a much better CC than the st.hk. Just think that the st.hk is too slow and predictable to be a good meaty and her overhead is even more reactable.
No it doesnt, it just pairs you with whoever is in casual when you are.
minimumhippo
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ahhh ok. I think I'm done playing for a while then. Thanks.
skLaFarebear
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st.HP CC is mostly used on resets where they're plus or when they're in your face on plus. It's bad in the neutral range where most laura's are usually gonna be sticking out st.mk/cr.mk/cr.mp or fireballs.
st.hk and overhead especially are slow and fairly easy to react to, but i still can catch a decent amount of people off guard with both assuming I rarely use it.
st.HP is the better CC button yes, she also has some frame traps leading to st.HP CC.
Crab Milk Mickey
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You're not playing against fantastic players against Bronze. Those are the exception rather than the rule. Odds are you simply don't know what to look for with regards to kicking your gameplan into motion. Focus on how to defend yourself (including anti-airing), knowing how to punish unsafe moves, how to space your normals et cetera.I've seriously lost probably the past 10 matches I've played. And I'm at 0 LP so it's not like I can go any lower in the ranks. This game just keeps putting me against fantastic players. For comparison I can hold my own pretty well in Mortal Kombat X. But in this I feel like I'm just wasting my time. Feels impossible. I'm using a stick, holding it correctly, done lots of training. Combos, special moves 10x each direction in a row, all that. Can't beat *anyone*.
I've never played a game that punishes noobs this much. There has to be other weak players out there that it can match me against instead of consistently matching me against 490LP players.
"Fucking Asshole Negates Guard"
Having played with pad for years with SFIV and only a month and a half on stick for V; movement was easier with the former, combos with the latter. Even went back to IV now that I'm using a stick to see whether it was placebo effect and even across different games it was less of a struggle to execute links.
All it really boils down to though is where your comfort zone lies. Both have their up- and downsides.
KhalilSyncere
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Her crush counters are not terrible and have multiple applicatiosn and times for usage. Also, the fact that she has 3 of them, not including the obligatory sweep CC whereas most have 2 or less is a beautiful thing.
Wait, wut?
Please explain how it is "more efficient," and how it was already the case in SF4 with stuff like plinking and piano inputs.
CrackpotDesert
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Aren't Laura's elbows unsafe if you block them? I remember getting Birdie's command grab every time after guarding against it.
I feel like if I get away with something that I shouldn't have, it deserves a taunt.
Got wrecked by an R.Mika last night. Holy shit.
Also.. I taunt when I am feeling competitive
I feel like if I get away with something that I shouldn't have, it deserves a taunt.
lucebuce12
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Hehe, you're a Dhalsim player right? I used to think the FANG v Dhalsim matchup was more in Dhalsim's favour but oh man, Dhalsim actually has trouble with this matchup. My poison balls are fairly useless in this matchup, short of cancelling his air fireball from a distance but the V-skill, the V-trigger and traps are actually extremely useful against Dhalsim.
Beating my friendly neighbourhood Dhalsim player 7 matches in a row as FANG convinced me to main him. And that dude's been playing Dhalsim since SF4.
Would love to hear your thoughts on it.
Command grab is a good idea after a blocked LP elbow, because most Laura's will tend to block and be ready for the throw tech after it, but it you always go this route they can jump out of it.
CountBlack
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terrible opinion right here
Yeah, except lp which is only -2, and good laura players will only use a stronger version on hit.
That has to be a terrible joke right?
Yeah, but if they drop their combo i usually assume they used a stronger version though
lucebuce12
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That's the great thing about opinions. Everybody's got one.
EDIT: Also didn't know that her St.HP is a CC too, that changed my opinion as I reflected in my above 2 posts.
No need to assume, there's a clear visual distinction between the two possible versions.
KhalilSyncere
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Yeah, like assholes. Some are more valid than others too. Just as some assholes are shittier than others. Colonics are often needed abound these days.
Drastically, too. I didn't know the exact circumstances, just caught the blowback.
Perhaps coward is too charged of a word. I apologize. I used it because I thought I was being accused of mashing somehow (didn't know it was about an exact video). I'm much more comfortable with "weak" in this instance. It makes you look weak.
P.S. I'm awful at this game. I still have fun with it.
lucebuce12
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That got a little weird fast.Yeah, like assholes. Some are more valid than others too. Just as some assholes are shittier than others. Colonics are often needed abound these days.
KhalilSyncere
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I've had one Double K.O. which resulted in a draw game. Now my FM can't be a multiple of 50.... unless I manage to finesse four more draws.
notworksafe
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losing makes you look weak. falling for the taunt bait makes you look weak. taunting and winning makes you hilarious.
lucebuce12
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Just Du it
webkatt
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DS4 vs Stick?
I grow up playing fighting games at arcades, so in my own opinion, I feel more comfortable with stick. The beauty of the stick is not the stick itself, although it helps a lot in some situations, but the accesibility to the buttons. With a sitck you have 4 fingers to press the 6 available buttons, versus 2 (or 3) in the DS4. And pressing the three punches or kicks are really cumbersome on pad. I must swap HP and HK to make it better, but it is a chore. I don't like to use L shoulders because i lose my ideal position on my left thumb. And on the right side, using a different finger for hard attacks is not ideal. Dhalsim is really difficult to use on a pad (the only character in this game I think it really needs a stick), and Karim and Birdie are better with a stick, althoug they are totally playable on pad.
Now, do you really must buy a stick? I say NO. The game is very pad friendly, except Dhalsim, as I noted before. But I think part of the feeling of the game is playing as it was in a real arcade. And you don't need to buy the more expensive stick on market, you can try a cheap one and feel how it plays. I heard a lot of young people that can't do special powers on stick. You must know that you must practice a little, and later you can feel the real power of the stick.
Note apart: DS4 players, avoid the Stick on that controller, use the directional pad. I found really difficult to play fighting games on that. You only need 8 directions, and the pad already have those. The travel on the stick is longer, and you don't have precision on where are you pressing. I grew up playing on SNES too.
I grow up playing fighting games at arcades, so in my own opinion, I feel more comfortable with stick. The beauty of the stick is not the stick itself, although it helps a lot in some situations, but the accesibility to the buttons. With a sitck you have 4 fingers to press the 6 available buttons, versus 2 (or 3) in the DS4. And pressing the three punches or kicks are really cumbersome on pad. I must swap HP and HK to make it better, but it is a chore. I don't like to use L shoulders because i lose my ideal position on my left thumb. And on the right side, using a different finger for hard attacks is not ideal. Dhalsim is really difficult to use on a pad (the only character in this game I think it really needs a stick), and Karim and Birdie are better with a stick, althoug they are totally playable on pad.
Now, do you really must buy a stick? I say NO. The game is very pad friendly, except Dhalsim, as I noted before. But I think part of the feeling of the game is playing as it was in a real arcade. And you don't need to buy the more expensive stick on market, you can try a cheap one and feel how it plays. I heard a lot of young people that can't do special powers on stick. You must know that you must practice a little, and later you can feel the real power of the stick.
Note apart: DS4 players, avoid the Stick on that controller, use the directional pad. I found really difficult to play fighting games on that. You only need 8 directions, and the pad already have those. The travel on the stick is longer, and you don't have precision on where are you pressing. I grew up playing on SNES too.
lucebuce12
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It seems you feel more comfortable on a stick so just go for that. If money's an issue, I'm sure someone here will gladly give some recommendations on cheaper sticks that are just as good. EDIT: Apparently you weren't asking for advice, sorry about that.
Btw, I use the stick on the DS4 and I've found little difference between using the D-pad and the stick. I can actually pull some of the more faster moves like Zangief's CA and things like walk-forward hadoken more easily with the stick as compared to the D-pad so everyone has their own preference in this regard.
It really does come down to personal preference for this game, neither stick nor pad have any sort of clear advantage.
Crab Milk Mickey
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That match-up favors F.A.N.G yeah, albeit slightly. Poison balls are fine to use from outside of his limb range or up-close after a knockdown for those cross-up shenanigans with his command dash or whatever it is. V-Trigger means Dhalsim will always be poisoned since it applies them on his poke normals (even on block) and in general F.A.N.G has a bit more leeway (marginally so) with block strings / frame traps because of Dhalsim's fastest normal being 4 frames instead of the usual 3.
From what I've experienced and from what I've seen when Arturo had a set with Sonicfox, it boils down to who can rush the other character down and keep him pinned first.
Well, It seems that my comment sounds as what controller I must get. Actually, is for people who don't know if an Arcade Stick is a good purchase.
I play well with both controllers (i'm still to try on keyboard, but I was good on there too some time ago).
As I said, this game is very controller friendly, but a Stick is really good if you plan to spend a lot of time in this game or other fighting games.
Settle it in 3DS SF4. Guile only. Lite Inputs only.
Hah. I still never got a copy of 3DS SF4. I bet it's still worth it. Does the online in that thing even work anymore?
Everybody laughs at their own jokes.
lucebuce12
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Yes, that's pretty much what I figured but it's nice to hear the opinion of a Dhalsim player too.
and yes, it's his command dash which he can be jabbed or thrown out of. (Except for the EX version which can only be thrown, not jabbed)
robotzombie
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Anyone know native impacts twitch account? I can't find it anywhere
That's pretty interesting. Capcom has got some patching to do.
(Of course there's a frame buffer, so I don't want to hear excuses about a <200ms input lag being responsible for your dropped combo).
Omnistalgic
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Tks man much appreciated. I felt pretty scrub tier losing to so many weak tactics in rank lol.
lucebuce12
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You can't let that shit affect you, the whole ranking system is so flawed for a game like this, it's baffling.
I feel like hitting combos is the least of my problems with input lag. You just adjust your timing and you're good to go. The problem is reacting. Blocking on reaction, whiff punishing, hitconfirming off of one hit, this kind of stuff gets much harder with high input lag.
They should definitely fix this to at least SF IV levels.
lucebuce12
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Yes, her f+HP. It's +3 on block which means f+hp xx st.lp/cr.lp is a block string.
Hey, it's still worse than Bison's st.HK being +3 on block and his cr.mp being 6 frame stratup.
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