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Street Fighter V |OTVIII| New Delayed Generation - Controversial Inputs
- Thread starter Reizo Ryuu
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Megawarrior
Member
They should just put DS and Rival School characters in SFV and MvCI instead. Sequels to either game would TANK outside of arcades in japan. I've been begging ono on Twitter for ages.
Romars202129
Member
Good news for you, DP change is the same for Necaili since he's always been like that. And they didn't give Alex enough. They never do lol
No, his H Dp was invincible Season 1. I heard they made one of his dashes safe... or safer though. Got to go in the lab on that.
Alex can't catch a damn break lol.
They should just put DS and Rival School characters in SFV and MvCI instead. Sequels to either game would TANK outside of arcades in japan. I've been begging ono on Twitter for ages.
Rival School characters would fit in like a glove but not sure about DS.
DarkConfidant
Member
Define correctly
Not wrong? So that the intended attack happens?
DarkConfidant
Member
Charge moves also have different time requirements on how long you need to charge it so might be that too.
That might be it. Didn't know that. Guess I'll have to mess around in training.
Thanks!
Injustice 2 and Tekken 7 taking some of SFV user base, you know it's bad when Wolfkrone is the top stream on twitch..
Wont last. After the newness fades they'll come crawling back to SF like everyone always does.
ColonialHawk
Member
Not wrong? So that the intended attack happens?
Ah ok then yeah I practiced charge moves by doing half circles after charging the required time
Up, down came easier once I got back, forward correct
SolarPowered
Member
Skullgirls did better than an all girl fighting game could ever hope to do. It also did better than an indie fighting game that got it's knees hit with a hammer at the starting line could ever hope to do. It also did better at crowdfunding than any fighting game ever. Reverge also literally imploded at the launch of the game thanks to Konami and Autumn games related stuff going on in the background. I don't think any other modern fighting game franchise would have survived half the disasters skullgirls did and it wasn't thanks to the IP so much as it was thanks to the developers working on the game day and night for little or no pay.I wonder if they will approach Capcom again with Darkstalkers. Wasnt SG very successful?
They definitely have a much better recognition now.
Shit was tough
A Lab Zero Darkstalkers on Xbox, Playstation and Steam with a proper DLC flow would absolutely kill even today. Lab Zero's budget would probably be a fraction the size of Capcom's and Darkstalkers is a cult classic that would market itself. As a Capcom release, though? Game would flounder between Capcom's random decisions, the bigger focus on tournaments, the higher sales expectations and the disconnect between fans and developers. An IP like Darkstalkers coming back would require a pretty large amount of cooperation on the part of fans AND developers/publishers to not screw it up big time.DS would have to be successful in the first place. That game was niche for a reason.
Let's be real, this game is going to be perfect when they add Sakura.
Here's hoping her VTrigger is CCs!
I'm getting flashbacks of all the frame trap bs with her from 4. Watching Chris G do his thing at every tourney...*shudders*.
Turbanator
Member
Why not just completely reboot DS and effectively market it as a new IP? That worked pretty well for KI.
When Capcom is financially able to make any new IP, nonetheless a new fighter, of course.
When Capcom is financially able to make any new IP, nonetheless a new fighter, of course.
There's really just not room for it.Why not just completely reboot DS and effectively market it as a new IP? That worked pretty well for KI.
When Capcom is financially able to make any new IP, nonetheless a new fighter, of course.
If the rumor's right about the themed "VS" packs, getting a bunch of reps in MvC:I is about the best they can do (And Vs series is effectively the modern "Anime" niche for Capcom anyway.)
TheSpoiler
Member
A Lab Zero Darkstalkers on Xbox, Playstation and Steam with a proper DLC flow would absolutely kill even today. Lab Zero's budget would probably be a fraction the size of Capcom's and Darkstalkers is a cult classic that would market itself. As a Capcom release, though? Game would flounder between Capcom's random decisions, the bigger focus on tournaments, the higher sales expectations and the disconnect between fans and developers. An IP like Darkstalkers coming back would require a pretty large amount of cooperation on the part of fans AND developers/publishers to not screw it up big time.
Nothing that LZ has done makes me think they could do DS justice on the gameplay front. And that's not a diss - like , DS is fucking real intricate. And again, it wouldn't market itself. It's not even a cult classic. It's a game that Japan likes and the rest of the world knows about but doesn't really give a shit about. DS is far too technical to sell to a mass audience.
Why not just completely reboot DS and effectively market it as a new IP? That worked pretty well for KI.
When Capcom is financially able to make any new IP, nonetheless a new fighter, of course.
Rebooting the game is kind of an issue. See, with KI, that game wasn't expansively deep and therefore they just had to improve upon the original games. DS is different. DS is pretty ridiculous. So rebooting it would mean things would have to change, as the populous at large isn't going to touch that game at all. And if Capcom did dumb it down, the ire from people who've played it and people who just heard about it would sink the game.
Either DS comes out dumbed down, or DS comes out and tanks.
Rickenslacker
Banned
Meh at more shoto-likes. Makoto so perfectly fits into SFV's systems and the game is lesser for every season that goes by without her.Let's be real, this game is going to be perfect when they add Sakura.
Here's hoping her VTrigger is CCs!
Meh at more shoto-likes. Makoto so perfectly fits into SFV's systems and the game is lesser for every season that goes by without her.
Makoto is already in SFV. She's Sean's sister now.
spazchicken
Member
So you think they'll announce just Abigail at E3 or will they have more?
She does, which is why I'll be shocked if we never see her in the game, but it makes sense that she'd be further down the list than Sakura/Viper/Ed's new girl.Meh at more shoto-likes. Makoto so perfectly fits into SFV's systems and the game is lesser for every season that goes by without her.
Just to bounce of kirblar, yeah.
Killer instinct , MK, and on a lower scale Skullgirls ( which I feel suffers from different design issues ) , kind of already occupy the " monster mash " fighting game spot , and they all do that while being visually cohesive. Its nothing visually , as dark stalkers is I feel offers anything appealing, cohesive and different enough to warrant update. So then you go, ok ok, well reboot it use the name, but at that point, is it dark stalkers?
For those who play Killerinsinct and see what that game has done with revitalizing a thing. It might be a good, thing, I think it would be a good thing.
I feel the same way about DS that I do about RS witch is " you can want it if you want, but if you get it it might not look like how you want it to look" DS might end up looking a hell of a lot more like DMC and RS might end up looking a hell of alot more like modern anime and persona.
Then there is the greater issue is, if we have to do all that is it even worth rebooting in this crowded space , and I can't answer that.
Killer instinct , MK, and on a lower scale Skullgirls ( which I feel suffers from different design issues ) , kind of already occupy the " monster mash " fighting game spot , and they all do that while being visually cohesive. Its nothing visually , as dark stalkers is I feel offers anything appealing, cohesive and different enough to warrant update. So then you go, ok ok, well reboot it use the name, but at that point, is it dark stalkers?
For those who play Killerinsinct and see what that game has done with revitalizing a thing. It might be a good, thing, I think it would be a good thing.
I feel the same way about DS that I do about RS witch is " you can want it if you want, but if you get it it might not look like how you want it to look" DS might end up looking a hell of a lot more like DMC and RS might end up looking a hell of alot more like modern anime and persona.
Then there is the greater issue is, if we have to do all that is it even worth rebooting in this crowded space , and I can't answer that.
ColonialHawk
Member
Probably.So you think they'll announce just Abigail at E3 or will they have more?
I hope they announce the next three tho. Just update the silhouettes to not be silhouettes. Don't show us anything else but the designs.
If SSFV is real, I wouldn't expect any news on the update until after MvCI drops.So you think they'll announce just Abigail at E3 or will they have more?
As for E3, I do think we'll get an Abigail reveal. Maybe we'll also get a look at the 2nd Cinematic Story if X-Kira wasn't yanking our chain (unless that's being saved for the rumored Super update).
Story II would def be held for a Super update. (Makes me think the grand plan may be for 2 updates, ending w/ a final bridge to SF3's start w/ an eventual USFV story mode.)If SSFV is real, I wouldn't expect any news on the update until after MvCI drops.
As for E3, I do think we'll get an Abigail reveal. Maybe we'll also get a look at the 2nd Cinematic Story if X-Kira wasn't yanking our chain (unless that's being saved for the rumored Super update).
I'd love an "xT" season w/ Tekken characters at the end, but I'm proooobably on a lonely island on that one.
SolarPowered
Member
I think there is some stuff about Darkstalkers that could be changed for the better and how the roster is tackled alone could be very interesting. On the gameplay front there is plenty of room for more intricate dark force mechanics, meterless GCs would probably have to be changed up big time and piano pushblocking would probably go. On the roster front there is plenty of opportunity for new monster designs (swamp thing rival for Rikuo, ghost characters, Ruby Heart, Dullahan, etc.) and people have always wanted to see the cast unified as well. I don't think what I listed would justify a full SFV-like project, though. A cheaper endeavor by a good 2D dev like Lab Zero has plenty of potential and at worst would break even.Nothing that LZ has done makes me think they could do DS justice on the gameplay front. And that's not a diss - like , DS is fucking real intricate. And again, it wouldn't market itself. It's not even a cult classic. It's a game that Japan likes and the rest of the world knows about but doesn't really give a shit about. DS is far too technical to sell to a mass audience.
Rebooting the game is kind of an issue. See, with KI, that game wasn't expansively deep and therefore they just had to improve upon the original games. DS is different. DS is pretty ridiculous. So rebooting it would mean things would have to change, as the populous at large isn't going to touch that game at all. And if Capcom did dumb it down, the ire from people who've played it and people who just heard about it would sink the game.
Either DS comes out dumbed down, or DS comes out and tanks.
We're never going to get Amingo in Darkstalkers 4, are we?
Played 10 matches only one once. Fun though
Damn its like everything I practiced goes out the window when I play online. Can't even do the low medium into hadoken/tatsu
I'm relying entirely on target combos, trying to anti air.
Zangief was a nightmare felt paralyzed against his lariat. Just tried to block/punish with heavy kick or whatever
Damn
Damn its like everything I practiced goes out the window when I play online. Can't even do the low medium into hadoken/tatsu
I'm relying entirely on target combos, trying to anti air.
Zangief was a nightmare felt paralyzed against his lariat. Just tried to block/punish with heavy kick or whatever
Damn
Probably.
I hope they announce the next three tho. Just update the silhouettes to not be silhouettes. Don't show us anything else but the designs.
If they reveal Abigail that effectively confirms the leaks as he wasn't in the story mode whatsoever (unlike Kolin and Ed). If that's the case the S2 cast isn't a secret so they could show a glimpse of Menat and Zeku a la the Balrog trailer with Juri and Urien.
sixteen-bit
Member
I still think putting in the monkey would be a good idea.
leave the harambe memes in 2016 imo
The Gorilla (likely w/ the other two "Kings" of neoShadoloo) is definitely happening. You don't tease that w/o planning to follow up on it in the semi-near future.I still think putting in the monkey would be a good idea.
I still think putting in the monkey would be a good idea.
Someone mentioned this, but I want the grolla to be manned by a small child, and for it to be a robot.
I also want that child to have an outfit that makes them look like noodle
Played 10 matches only one once. Fun though
Damn its like everything I practiced goes out the window when I play online. Can't even do the low medium into hadoken/tatsu
I'm relying entirely on target combos, trying to anti air.
Zangief was a nightmare felt paralyzed against his lariat. Just tried to block/punish with heavy kick or whatever
Damn
I'll tell you what my friends would tell me: Don't worry about winning. Focus only on what you're trying to improve on. If that's anti-airing then commit yourself to anti-airing during all the matches you play that day.
I wasn't excited for Abigail until it was pointed out that he's 8 feet tall. He should be the biggest character out the whole series, so now I'm hype to see how that turns out.
He should have permanant super armor
He should have permanant super armor
I bet his Trigger is going to be something like that. 3/4 screen limbs, half screen command grabs, let's goo.
He should have permanant super armor
I'm down if he's not a grappler.
I beat his Trigger is going to be something like that. 3/4 screen limbs, half screen command grabs, let's goo.
make his sweep lead into damaging juggles
make his overhead also lead into a juggle
also he should be able to block non-low attacks while backdashing
wait wrong game
I wasn't excited for Abigail until it was pointed out that he's 8 feet tall. He should be the biggest character out the whole series, so now I'm hype to see how that turns out.
He's only two inches taller than Hugo so I don't know if he'll be dramatically bigger (and Hugo's head already obscured the health bar).
spazchicken
Member
He's only two inches taller than Hugo so I don't know if he'll be dramatically bigger (and Hugo's head already obscured the health bar).
I think it'll be the same in the end as Hugo has a big head of hair.
He's only two inches taller than Hugo so I don't know if he'll be dramatically bigger (and Hugo's head already obscured the health bar).
You're thinking rational, but you ain't thinking video games.
Turbanator
Member
What if you couldn't jump over Abigail?
What if you couldn't jump over Abigail?
What if Abigail couldn't jump?
Grodd 2017 tbh.leave the harambe memes in 2016 imo
He's only two inches taller than Hugo so I don't know if he'll be dramatically bigger (and Hugo's head already obscured the health bar).
He's 100+ pounds heavier tho. I'm pretty sure he's going to have gigantic arms like potemkin
ScraftyDevil
Banned
If there really is another iteration of SFV, I really hope they go with a prefix other than "Super." Super is trite and overdone imo; I'd much prefer something like "Hyper Street Fighter V" or a SFIII-style naming scheme (i.e. "Street Fighter V: 2nd Coming"). Even if it sounded silly it'd at least be a breath of fresh air.
What if you couldn't jump over Abigail?
What if you couldn't normal throw abigail like the Blob
If there really is another iteration of SFV, I really hope they go with a prefix other than "Super." Super is trite and overdone imo; I'd much prefer something like "Hyper Street Fighter V" or a SFIII-style naming scheme (i.e. "Street Fighter V: 2nd Coming"). Even if it sounded silly it'd at least be a breath of fresh air.
I agree. Just give it a subtitle like "Champion Edition" or "Warrior's Dreams" or "Second Impact."
Edit:
"30th Anniversary Edition" would be perfect.