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Street Fighter V |OTVIII| New Delayed Generation - Controversial Inputs
- Thread starter Reizo Ryuu
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BenjiGAF
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Like, Def Jam? I didn't play that one, that's cool as hell though
Etrian Oddity
Member
lmao
Yea, he actually has it in DJV. I'm not sure about Fight for New York, you might be able to buy it for your character tho.
Def Jam FFNY is the best wrestling game that's ever been made and it's a goddamn travesty that that sunglass wearing fuckstick Kudo Tsunoda completely destroyed the franchise with Def Jam Icon.
lucebuce12
Member
"While you're down there, how bout you shine my shoes?'
"I'm gonna rip out your tongue, and LICK MY ASS WITH IT"
That game had some wonderful dialogue.
EDIT: Plus it gave us this image.
"I'm gonna rip out your tongue, and LICK MY ASS WITH IT"
That game had some wonderful dialogue.
EDIT: Plus it gave us this image.
FAULTLESS MOVE
Supposedly (according to the FAT app guy) the move is actually supposed to be called Fortress Move, but there was some kind of translation error that led to the current name.
This triggers me....
Etrian Oddity
Member
I need to get way better at my defense! Too often I can't figure what's the best way to go about the enemy going in ham. Hit a button and you get crushed, try to throw or jump and you get hit again, I think I need to work on both my reflexes and come up with a new wrinkle.
lucebuce12
Member
lol no, jump more.
UcchedavÄda
Member
V-reversal?
I tend to have the same problem, and being more liberal with my use of V-reversals has definitely helped.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
want to try a lounge luce?
lucebuce12
Member
Give me 20 minutes. The mention of E3 in this thread has me watching old E3 vids.
If you are rather certain they will throw tech it. If you are not sure if they are going to use a normal or throw do the invincible uppercut. Both options are good but can lead to you eating a ton of damage. I would just block instead unless your opponent is constantly throwing you.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
I'm playing right now and the majority of my matches are just disconnecting right after I hit accept. New CFN rules.
Etrian Oddity
Member
Weird. I was playing half an hour ago and had perfect connections and sportsmanship.
lucebuce12
Member
I'm coming online now.
Crouch walk? Pffft call me when he has a crouch dash
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
I only mention it because it's unusual. I don't really think it's the new CFN's fault but a streak of bad luck like that has never happened before.
lucebuce12
Member
I'm online reizo, if you wanna try.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
cool
Omnistalgic
Member
tks buddy, I might come back and learn Guile or see where Ryu shakes out. Be a while though...
Remember when Capcom released like 3 alpha games a generation? I still don't get why SFV and Marvel is it? Why not have something like Guilty Gear that is more footsie focused? Do a cross over game with Dark Stalkers like all the cool art work and give it more an anime brush stroke 3rd strike vibe. Really feels like Capcom is wasting a ton of potential with the IP.
Im in charge, I would always keep the main title going, going with new engines, graphics style, and of course brand new mechanics and characters.
But I'm definitely not leaving the classic 2D sprite style to GG and KOF or BB either. Especially when stuff like ST and 3rd strike were played for so long in the tourney scene.
SFV
Marvel
Classic SF game
Maybe it's too financially risky? dunno...
Sounds like a good way to waste a ton of money my dude
lucebuce12
Member
Ahh Street Fighter V.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
I think there's still something between us that doesn't play well because holy shit that's more 400002's I have seen...ever.
Still GGs for what we could play, I also just realised I've never actually fought a fang ever, I'm completely clueless what do to againts those blockstrings lmao.
Still GGs for what we could play, I also just realised I've never actually fought a fang ever, I'm completely clueless what do to againts those blockstrings lmao.
Games are more expensive to make in 2017 than they were in 1997.
TheSpoiler
Member
They didn't even use them for the DLC characters sans Kolin and Ed kinda. And both got considerable amounts of reworking. You'll see them in extra battle and that's it.
Turbanator
Member
So do Ed and Kolin, neither of which even used their story assets.
Kolin & Ed were completely redone, so that doesn't really matter.
lucebuce12
Member
Yeah that was a rather inordinate amount of disconnections.
GGs. And yeah, it was kinda obvious you didn't have much FANG experience lol
I will say this, that while you have to respect the cr.mk and the coward's crouch kick (+3 and +2 oB respectively), you don't really have to respect the st.hk which is +1. You can always do your 3-frame jab and it'll either beat anything I do (short of a super) or trade with my jab. Also a cr.mk into st.hp frametrap that I was doing doesn't work against 3-framers. cr.mk is +3 oB and st.hp is 7-frames, you can jab in between, but I do have a legitimate frametrap in the form of a cr.mk into cr.mp which beats 3-frames. Same story for st.lp which is also +3 oB.
You kept fairly grounded in this matchup. Which I think is a mistake. Jump more. Jump and divekick more, especially EX divekicks. The poison state and the trap vanishes if you manage to land a hit on me through whatever means. When you're in, don't let me breathe. SPAM that st.lk, throw me, shimmy me, meaty pressure me. Make me feel like if I let you in, I might as well put the controller down.
Your usage of the EX spirur arrow was a good one but you kept at too much of a distance for it to be at it's most effective. Also you can empty jump, land on the trap and still block it. It's when you do an air normal/move that you can't block it.
The connection definitely felt stable enough that I could react to most things, I'd be more than happy to teach you the matchup if you wish. How was it on your end?
Omnistalgic
Member
Yeah, that has to be the main reason behind it. Would love to see the anime style come back for 6 though. When SFV is done, it'll be 15 years of this "macho" masculine design style with huge muscles. Wouldn't mind a return to Alpha land.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Yeah that was a rather inordinate amount of disconnections.
GGs. And yeah, it was kinda obvious you didn't have much FANG experience lol
I will say this, that while you have to respect the cr.mk and the coward's crouch kick (+3 and +2 oB respectively), you don't really have to respect the st.hk which is +1. You can always do your 3-frame jab and it'll either beat anything I do (short of a super) or trade with my jab. Also a cr.mk into st.hp frametrap that I was doing doesn't work against 3-framers. cr.mk is +3 oB and st.hp is 7-frames, you can jab in between, but I do have a legitimate frametrap in the form of a cr.mk into cr.mp which beats 3-frames. Same story for st.lp which is also +3 oB.
You kept fairly grounded in this matchup. Which I think is a mistake. Jump more. Jump and divekick more, especially EX divekicks. The poison state and the trap vanishes if you manage to land a hit on me through whatever means. When you're in, don't let me breathe. SPAM that st.lk, throw me, shimmy me, meaty pressure me. Make me feel like if I let you in, I might as well put the controller down.
Your usage of the EX spirur arrow was a good one but you kept at too much of a distance for it to be at it's most effective. Also you can empty jump, land on the trap and still block it. It's when you do an air normal/move that you can't block it.
The connection definitely felt stable enough that I could react to most things, I'd be more than happy to teach you the matchup if you wish. How was it on your end?
Those are some really good tips, in all the time I've played this game, I had no idea you could empty jump block the trap..., always thought you were SOL if it was under you.
Yeah I kept grounded because of that crHP fang has, and I honestly did try to divekick but I had so many missed inputs man smh, but that's on me. Fang's reach also kinda surprised me, crHK and fHP I think go much farther than I thought.
Yeah the connection itself was fine enough when we actually got to play, a far cry from that crazy teleportation the last time we tried, I'll be sure to hit you up again.
lucebuce12
Member
I mean on the one hand, I do think not everyone should look so freaking muscular.
But on the other hand, that's why we have Chun-Li's thighs the way they are now.
But on the other hand, that's why we have Chun-Li's thighs the way they are now.
Megawarrior
Member
I don't see it tbh. Even tekken has gone full steroids.
Chun Li's face (pre and post release) in SFIV could not save those thighs for me. I'm so sorry.I mean on the one hand, I do think not everyone should look so freaking muscular.
But on the other hand, that's why we have Chun-Li's thighs the way they are now.
Whats wrong with her thighs?
lucebuce12
Member
Nothing, they're fabulous and I don't want them to change.
It's how every character has such insanely bulging muscles. Even Birdie has muscles and he's straight up obese.
Cammy's divekick is fantastic against FANG since he doesn't have any reversals to throw out and he doesn't have a 3-frame jab. If you constantly pressure him, he can't get the trap out to ensure his safety from jump ins. Anti airing the divekick as fang is also very risky and rarely worth doing.
That's why Cammy is IMO a 7-3 matchup for F.A.N.G in favour of Cammy.
And it's df+HP, not f+HP. And that move can also be cancelled into V-Trigger. The reason I was doing a lot of cr.hk's is because I noticed you were walking back and forth a lot.
I think the Dolls are more likely to be featured in a later season or a new game but only after being redesigned to be completely new characters. And even then it may just be one or two of them.
Anime is all about being thicc now, though!
She'll reveal her goal has been finding t hawk this whole time. Unfortunately he won't be in the game
dickroach
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I suck at fighting games, but I wanted to give SFV a shot
was planning on running through Ryu's trials and then doing his story mode
...I can not get past trial 3.
jumping hard punch -> standing medium punch -> crouching medium kick -> hadoken
half the time it doesn't register the crouching medium kick.
i keep shuriyukening when i'm trying to hadoken, or the hadoken isn't quick enough when i do pull it off.
whyyyyy
was planning on running through Ryu's trials and then doing his story mode
...I can not get past trial 3.
jumping hard punch -> standing medium punch -> crouching medium kick -> hadoken
half the time it doesn't register the crouching medium kick.
i keep shuriyukening when i'm trying to hadoken, or the hadoken isn't quick enough when i do pull it off.
whyyyyy
Shadoken
Member
If anything its much cheaper to produce games now. Nobody is asking for a AAA fighting game. You have indie studios making Fighters like Skullgirls.
Dont see why Capcom cant have some low budget fighting games that cater to the hardcore audience.
lucebuce12
Member
After you jump, just let go of the stick/d-pad. Don't do any motion.
Now break it down. Try doing a jumping hard punch into standing medium punch. Does it combo? Great you have it down.
Now add another layer. Do jumping hard punch into standing medium punch into crouching medium kick. Does it combo? Great you have it down.
Now add the last layer. Do the above, but as soon as the crouching medium kick hits, input the hadoken. Don't wait for it to finish, input the hadoken as soon as the crouching medium kick hits the opponent.
Remember to not do any motion before you do the hadoken. Jump, jumping hard punch, standing medium punch, crouching medium kick and cancel into hadoken.
The game is very lenient in it's inputs. If you do a hadoken but you also did forward inputs, the game just auto corrects it into a shoryuken. Same situation for Shoryuken and Critical Art/Super.