No wonder I got crushcountered when I tried to sweep after opponent whiffed it lmao
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Street Fighter V |OTVIII| New Delayed Generation - Controversial Inputs
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No wonder I got crushcountered when I tried to sweep after opponent whiffed it lmao
21 frame startup and tons of recovery is pretty rough.
Right now it feels hard to really use
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
The announcer is saying interesting things but I can barely hear her.
lucebuce12
Member
How do you know if you can barely hear her?
what the fuck
Barely implies that he can still hear her.
Shoot. I remember punishing a few Ed sweeps but I don't remember what the animation looks like. Hope there's an easy way to tell when the active frames run out.
allintospace
Member
I love dipping my head into a battle lounge to get an idea of the player connection quality, only to get sucked into spectating mode before I can escape.
killu4what, maybe you play on 720p? The shadow dithering is more visible when playing the PS4 ver at 1080p and higher (when PS4 Pro upscales). My friends have been hardcore SF players for years and they didn't notice the shadow dithering until I changed one of their monitors to 1080p and pointed it out.
killu4what
Member
No my friend I am definitely playing on 1080p. And I am positive it can pointed out to me how "bad" the AF or shadow dithering is. My simple point was after a year it is just something I didn't notice or really cared about. I guess you can say ingorance is bliss. But it stills seems pretty silly when I hear it ruins the game or the graphics.
The more I lurk neogaf the more I find that things the average person doesn't know about or noticed drive other people batshit crazy.
TheSpoiler
Member
DP change means Ken players are going wild
And fuck me I never want to fight a Vega again. They buffed the wrong character.
And fuck me I never want to fight a Vega again. They buffed the wrong character.
Here's one from one of the most problematic stages.
I'll get an image from Shadaloo Base in a few minutes.
haven't played in a while -blame persona 5- but dang
Urien skin looks _bad_
I'm guessing it's not as good looking because he technically has two player models and this is the "extra" one.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
She said something about "your opponent is using their main character" or at least that's what I thought I heard.
In some ways, this beta has made me lose all remaining hope I ever had in Capcom since it proves that they legitimately don't know what they're doing. Either they're intentionally putting in jab aas after saying they were removing them, or they're intentionally nerfing jump in attacks to the point of being susceptible to even jabs. Either way, it's a really annoying way to solve the jumping problem which is what I'm assuming they're trying to address.
Almost at 5k lp in the beta. Maybe I should try ranked again eventually. Then again most of my wins are against day 1 Eds.
As if they weren't going wild already. What is wrong (or rather what is good) with Vega now?
Can't you increase the volume for announcer and drop others in the settings?
As if they weren't going wild already. What is wrong (or rather what is good) with Vega now?
Can't you increase the volume for announcer and drop others in the settings?
I don't think jab AAs ever completely went away, they just became worse. They still work, though.
They need to get rid of jab AAs across the board, give everyone a medium or above AA that's slowish but still doable on reaction, and finally give a lot of characters cr.H AAs that CC automatically if it hits the opponent's startup or active frames (I can't see how CCing just the startup would do anything). So if you predict your opponent is going to jump in you can AA and launch them into a follow-up combo.
They nerfed a couple characters, and then proceeded to give all the new DLC characters the best AA jabs. Makes no sense.
Zombegoast
Member
ED's arm clips through his cape.
Goddamit Capcom
Goddamit Capcom
sixteen-bit
Member
Watch modders fix clipping issues on physics assets, lol
I'm surprised they haven't already.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Yup
Clipping is a problem in the game but the animations overall are top notch. I like the subtle animations Ed does after some moves.
sixteen-bit
Member
I know brutalace did this with laura's hair
Ed's trials: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npARs7LCMoo
Hitboxes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1kGlz9lmfY
Feel like it says something that most of those are either jump-ins or start with a crush counter. I'm worried about this character. Was really excited at the concept of playing this dude, but I can't wrap my head around his approach, and I'm starting to worry that it's not because there's a lot more to discover. At this point, I feel like Kolin had a lot more hidden potential, with tools like command dashes, hail setups and the counters.
It's still day 2, not gonna freak out just yet. I forgot that he had a Hold version of his air grab V-Skill, too.
Hitboxes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1kGlz9lmfY
Feel like it says something that most of those are either jump-ins or start with a crush counter. I'm worried about this character. Was really excited at the concept of playing this dude, but I can't wrap my head around his approach, and I'm starting to worry that it's not because there's a lot more to discover. At this point, I feel like Kolin had a lot more hidden potential, with tools like command dashes, hail setups and the counters.
It's still day 2, not gonna freak out just yet. I forgot that he had a Hold version of his air grab V-Skill, too.
lol, what? Since when have trials ever been a good indication of how you're supposed to play a character? Don't most of them start with jump ins just because?
I think V-skill is going to be how a lot of his offense starts, just gotta condition them to not expect it and then they're caught in a mixup.
I think he's limited by what they decided to do with his controls. Having no variations on any of his specials (except for the fireball apparently) really hurts him.
No, the trials are typically useless to show off the strength or optimal combo routes for a character. But they have shown off typical hit confirms for grounded combos. When you see a jump-in for an Ed combo in these trials, there isn't a hit confirm that can be sussed out if you ignored the jump-in altogether, while you can actually do this for other characters.
But what's the mixup? Tech a throw or not? You're thrown far away from him if you manage to not tech and it's not a lot of damage. Anyone would just eat the throw if they really needed to decide withholding the delay tech. The thing has crazy startup and recovery, along with limited range. I don't think it will be feasible for his game plan to actually revolve around using it outside of extending combos or as an (okay-ish) AA.
I mean, I thought the same when I started her but now she just makes sense to me. Ed feels worse though for sure
You can't
sixteen-bit
Member
X-Kira has been leaking vol2 trials on their youtube channel for a few weeks now. I'm not sure if they're legitimate though.
I see what you mean, and yeah, he's super limited with his confirms outside of a jump in. That's why I think most he'll have to end up relying on setting up the held v-skill.
Aren't you +3 or something after the v-skill? That let's you mix them up with more than just a throw, right?
Oh that was x-kiras channel? Nvm then.
TheSpoiler
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Farming Da y 1 Edz is nice. My Birdie will be ready for him.
And Vega seems to be able to confirm a lot more stuff now. And his reach feels like it's back. Dude is fire.
rip
Excited
ColonialHawk
Member
Idk Ed seems cool and has potential.
Also I think they updated npcs on more than just the air Force Base. The NPCs on high roller casino we're doing something I've never seen before.
@Lucebuce FANGs poison cloud doesn't stop Ed's fireball. Only nishikyu can stop it.
Also I think they updated npcs on more than just the air Force Base. The NPCs on high roller casino we're doing something I've never seen before.
@Lucebuce FANGs poison cloud doesn't stop Ed's fireball. Only nishikyu can stop it.
TheSpoiler
Member
Yeah the high roller casino dudes drop their canes on impact.
Yeah, the word is that he's +3 after that. But how I see it, this is what follows:
1. Ed attempts a throw. Opponent either techs or throw lands.
2. Ed attempts a shimmy. Opponent either tries to tech or escapes.
3. Ed attacks with either st.MP or cr.MP to beat 3f moves. Opponent either blocks or gets (CH) hit.
3*. If the first attack landed, you could follow-up with cr.MK. If the st.MP > cr.MK hit... that's the end of your pressure?
The way I see it, if there's no real way to convert after the +3 ground V-Skill if an attack lands, I'd either just hold back or just eat the throw. Despite plus moves, his frame traps don't seem to be powerful in a way that can lead to big damage or knock downs, like the strong characters in this game. Maybe his cr.HP will need to be used more or something in them? But that doesn't sound right.
Yeah, and Kanzuki Beach also has new stuff.
That's the thing. Everything is plus but conversions are iffy even with an eyeball on the stun meter for single hits at the end of strings. We'll have to see how it pans out. Maybe people will have to introduce a lot of microwalks to get things to work