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Study: Women Let Handsome Men Off Easier

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I'm just not sure how this says they can get away with more, as most of the women still said no? As I said before, it seemed to like their perceptions changed depending on attractiveness but their behavior didn't. Was there something I'm not understanding, and if so, can you explain it to me?
Attractive people get away with more, because even if the person being hit on isn't interested, it's always more flattering to get attention from an attractive person then it is from someone you find ugly.

I've seen women and men in committed relationships get hit on by other people, and they're far more playful, flirty, and responsive towards the attractive people that are hitting on them then the ugly ones. The ugly ones usually get either a hard no, or a mournful "I can't, I have a SO." whereas the attractive ones usually get to flirt more before actually getting rejected.
 

marrec

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I think it's also in part because it makes the discussion about sexual assault / harassment more complicated. The fact that two different men can do the exact same thing and get very different responses from the same woman makes the discussion about what is sexual assault harder.

It gives ammo to sexists and makes the whole discussion more complicated. That doesn't mean sexual assault / rape / etc. don't exist -- I'm not saying that at all -- it just means the discussion requires more nuance. National dialogs are not known for handling nuanced issues well.

I think this is overreaching with the conclusion a bit. It's far easier to say there is social pressure on women to internalize sexual desire so that external decisions based on a man's attractiveness seem wrong and taboo.

You're correct that pro-rape people (yes, they're out there people) would use such a conclusion as ammo, but the general consensus and likely further scientific study would prove out that they're dingleberries. I guess what I'm saying is that reasonable people wouldn't find the discussion of sexual assault more complicated based on scientific proof of "attractiveness = get away with more".
 

Kinyou

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Quick Life Hack:

Want an easier time in life? Just be really really ridiculously good looking.
But there are also downsides for us pretty people

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Attractiveness is well known to give you an advantage in most interactions with other people, but of course we needed a study to confirm it.

I had a female friend who used to say that she "didn't care" about the looks. Her whole history of boyfriends has had not one lower than 9/10 according to her other female friends, not one lasting more than a year because they would always cheat on her (but that's completely unrelated ...right?).

Anyway, didn't they make a documentary film about this previously unobserved phenomenon? 50 shades of something?
 
I think this is overreaching with the conclusion a bit. It's far easier to say there is social pressure on women to internalize sexual desire so that external decisions based on a man's attractiveness seem wrong and taboo.

You're correct that pro-rape people (yes, they're out there people) would use such a conclusion as ammo, but the general consensus and likely further scientific study would prove out that they're dingleberries. I guess what I'm saying is that reasonable people wouldn't find the discussion of sexual assault more complicated based on scientific proof of "attractiveness = get away with more".

I see this a lot. A guy that "get around" it just a guy, boys being boys. A girl that gets around is a slut and whore. Humans are sexual beings. We need to embrace and be more tolerant of it. No, I am not advocating rape/assault, just saying we need a more even playing field.
 
It really is bullshit how much appearance matters in life. Not just in dating or whatever but in everything; career, friendships, day-to-day interactions with randoms, etc.

This is natural selection. How many other countless species use some form of physical appearance to attract a mate? It literally is the way of the world.
 
How do I become handsome?

Unless you got a really fucked up face, then you can fake being handsome really well with grooming, hygiene, taking care of your teeth, posture, and clothing.

Also, confidence. Confidence is something you physically project through subtle, and sometimes not so subtle, cues such as posture, facial expressions, and movement. I have a face that only blind mother could love, but people still tell my wife im attractive because I don't "act" ugly.
 

JC Lately

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I’d ask how much money was pissed away on this study, when one’s own memory from high school and college should have been sufficient. But I suspect the answer would only piss me off. So instead I’ll just nod and roll my eyes.
 

jmdajr

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Unless you got a really fucked up face, then you can fake being handsome really well with grooming, hygiene, taking care of your teeth, posture, and clothing.

Also, confidence. Confidence is something you physically project through subtle, and sometimes not so subtle, cues such as posture, facial expressions, and movement. I have a face that only blind mother could love, but people still tell my wife im attractive because I don't "act" ugly.

that money thing works too.
 

Melon Husk

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Attractive people have it easier, shocking news.

Good thing I'm quite good looking. I could probably get away with murder.

FairyD
The Man Who Stares at Girls
(Today, 02:08 PM)

So fuck it, might as well confess to something I usually do during the summer.

I have a pair of cheap binoculars and my house is in front of an intersection. Last Saturday I must have spent a good hour just scoping out cute girls who have been walking past my house. I felt a lot like James Stewart in Rear Window.

There was a girl who was standing for the bus at the corner, I was staring at her 10 minutes. I even tried to take pictures by pressing the binoculars up to the lens of my camera. Kind of sucked though, by the time I got it going, the bus had came and there was some dude waiting.
Are you this guy
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Or this guy?

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I'm not so sure.
 
That's an incredibly specious point.

The thing to do would be to find anyone from that thread who has said something contrary in this thread or vice versa.

But no one has time for that.

Nope. Point is it's clearly not that obvious. No need to do anything extra.

EDIT: My man Opiate.
 

Valhelm

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Yikes, this kind of confirms the "Step one: be attractive. Step two: don't be unattractive" mantra that Reddit bros are always parroting.
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
Also, confidence. Confidence is something you physically project through subtle, and sometimes not so subtle, cues such as posture, facial expressions, and movement. I have a face that only blind mother could love, but people still tell my wife im attractive because I don't "act" ugly.

Eh confidence ain't that easy, or at least it wasn't for me. It's essentially being able to be yourself regardless of the situation, most people tense up outside their zones, most commonly talking to someone they've never spoken to before e.g a completely random stranger down the street, and it's extremely visible same with doing anything or uncomfortable doing.

There are numerous ways to fake confidence or rather project the air, e.g the ability to keep eye contact and various postures (essentially your body language), but if your actually confident it's less about what your consciously doing and more about actually feeling comfortable enough to say or do whatever you feel like not caring too much about the consequences. As your obviously relaxed and quite at home with the situation, your body language naturally changes to the typical cues.

It's useful because your not on edge or worrying about what people are thinking about what your saying too much so it allows you to pick up things the other person is doing and essentially dictate and manipulate conversations etc.
 

ZoronMaro

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As a scientist (although not in the social sciences) I'm shocked at how the usually pro-science GAF is giving me some very anti science vibes. I'll forgive some of you though.
If you're hot

I'm more interested about that small bit in the OP about tilting your head. I'm going to start walking around with a neck brace to keep my head permanently tilted. That'll make up for my fugly face right?
 
I think it's also in part because it makes the discussion about sexual assault / harassment more complicated. The fact that two different men can do the exact same thing and get very different responses from the same woman makes the discussion about what is sexual assault harder.

It gives ammo to sexists and makes the whole discussion more complicated. That doesn't mean sexual assault / rape / etc. don't exist -- I'm not saying that at all -- it just means the discussion requires more nuance. National dialogs are not known for handling nuanced issues well.

Basically Chris Brown's fanbase after the Rihanna incident.

"I'd let him beat me and rape me."
 
Seems like this would be obvious to most people.

I'm ugly but it doesn't affect me much because I rarely interact with other people.
 

Kinitari

Black Canada Mafia
I wonder how sexuality plays into this.


Something to note, that I think is important is that we need to be cognizant of the fact that this sort of information doesn't mean that we necessarily need to adjust how we look at people per say, or even how we interact with them.

For example, if I find someone attractive and they hit on me, I'm going to respond much more positively than if they are unattractive to me. In this case, obviously, no one would expect me to treat someone I don't find attractive the same. But if it's something like... Picking people to be on my rec volleyball team, that bias might be there, but it's probably not important enough for me to adjust my behavior, while career related stuff I should absolutely be aware of this pitfall.

I think this sort of bias plays out in the weirdest ways. Like... A few weeks ago I'm drinking with some co-workers, and we're sharing a pizza and one of my co-workers turns to me and asks me to finish off her slice because she was full. I grabbed it and took a bite without really hesitating, even though I wasn't even hungry anymore. I had a moment of introspection and realized the only reason I even wanted to eat that pizza, let alone was willing to eat someone else's half eaten slice, was because she was attractive. She then proceeded to take the pizza back for the last bite. That entire interaction I think would not have happened between two people who find each other physically unattractive, and I'm not really sure what that means.
 

Ri'Orius

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You can always trick people into thinking you're attractive though, for real... also attractiveness is subjective. One person's Brad Pitt might be another person's Willem DaFoe.

Eh, there's some subjectivity, but there are also some very real trends. Sure, maybe 5% of people think I'm an adonis, but if the other 95% think I'm repulsive, my day-to-day experience is going to be worse than that of someone who appeals to the majority.
 

marrec

Banned
I wonder how sexuality plays into this.


Something to note, that I think is important is that we need to be cognizant of the fact that this sort of information doesn't mean that we necessarily need to adjust how we look at people per say, or even how we interact with them.

For example, if I find someone attractive and they hit on me, I'm going to respond much more positively than if they are unattractive to me. In this case, obviously, no one would expect me to treat someone I don't find attractive the same. But if it's something like... Picking people to be on my rec volleyball team, that bias might be there, but it's probably not important enough for me to adjust my behavior, while career related stuff I should absolutely be aware of this pitfall.

I think this sort of bias plays out in the weirdest ways. Like... A few weeks ago I'm drinking with some co-workers, and we're sharing a pizza and one of my co-workers turns to me and asks me to finish off her slice because she was full. I grabbed it and took a bite without really hesitating, even though I wasn't even hungry anymore. I had a moment of introspection and realized the only reason I even wanted to eat that pizza, let alone was willing to eat someone else's half eaten slice, was because she was attractive. She then proceeded to take the pizza back for the last bite. That entire interaction I think would not have happened between two people who find each other physically unattractive, and I'm not really sure what that means.

Social science has done a lot of work in recent years about small interactions like this and what they mean overall socially. With studies on attractiveness and internal monologues I think we can at least start to piece together complex interactions like the one you described above.
 
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