Suda51 wants to make No More Heroes 3 if Switch game successful + other info

Eolz

Eolz

Member
From a great interview with Video Game Choo Choo, surprised no thread has been made already (unless gaf search failed me):

About Travis Strikes Again not being NMH3:
So, the talk of sequels leads nicely into my next question. How exactly does this tie into No More Heroes 2? Obviously a lot of time has passed and Travis’ situation has changed a lot, but you just said it’s not quite a direct sequel. Will Travis Strikes Again address what’s been going on with Travis since the events of No More Heroes 2 or will this be more of a self contained story?

Well again, it’s not a direct sequel to No More Heroes 2, though they are directly related and take place in the same universe. Travis Strikes Again: No More Heroes takes place seven years after the events of No More Heroes 2. As you’ve probably noticed it’s “Travis Strikes Again: No More Heroes”, so “No More Heroes” is more a subtitle, there’s not a number on it. This isn’t a direct sequel and it’s not No More Heroes 3, but it does address some of the things that happened in No More Heroes 1 and 2. While it is sort of a continuation of that stuff, it is not a direct sequel partially because No More Heroes is about one assassin against other assassins, and this isn’t like that. This isn’t exactly a spin-off, or something like that, and while it’s not a direct sequel it is something of a stepping stone on the road to No More Heroes 3. So the way I’d like people to think of this game is like the beginning of a new battle for Travis, a new series within the series.

So then there are intentions to follow up with a numbered sequel to this then?

Yeah. If this succeeds I definitely want to put out a 3 someday.
Click to expand...

6x0d21G.jpg


Connection with Let It Die:
So, this game console is the ‘Death Drive Mk. II’ and in Let It Die there was a console called the ‘Death Drive 128’, where the player was able to load up the game and go into the game world, so we kind of took the concept from that and applied it to this. The ‘Death Drive Mk. II’ is the predecessor to the ‘Death Drive 128’ from Let It Die, and again, the player puts the game in, turns on the console and gets sucked in, then they have to fight their way through there.

So this character here (At this point Suda points to a piece of concept art that we unfortunately aren’t able to post), is a character called Doctor Juvenile, who works for a company called ‘Hazure’ and she was the creator and designer of the ‘Death Drive Mk II’ and the ‘Death Drive 128’. So, the ‘Death Drive Mk. II’ has six games available for it, and she’s the designer/creator of all these games as well as the console. These are the games that Travis will be loading up on the console, going into and fighting his way through in Travis Strikes Again, anyway, that’s just sort of the backstory of where the console and these games came from.
Click to expand...

Smash Bros support:
I feel that, if the game is playable with one joy con, that will make it easier to one day put Travis in Smash Bros. So I’m sort of just waiting for that invitation to join the series from Smash Bros. to come.

That was actually one of my questions! My Editor in Chief who’s a big fan really wanted to know if there was any hope to get Travis in Smash Bros. so I guess you kind of answered that for me!

By all means please offer your support for that. The more voices that come up saying “Hey put Travis in your game!” the closer it comes to reality.
Click to expand...

Artist influence for Travis Strikes Again:
So last question: the style of No More Heroes is very distinctive. It’s always sort of mirrored Travis’ personality of very aggressive. I’m wondering what sort of influences there have been on the style since the last few games, and if there’s anything directly influencing the aesthetic and story of Travis Strikes Again?

There actually are a few things. These are characters in the game. There was this guy named Yusuke Kozaki who was the character designer, he designed Travis, and most of the characters up until now.
Probably the most major element I’ve been inspired by that actually had a big influence on the game is the UK artist Boneface. Boneface designed these two new characters with Yusuke Kozaki, and they’re sort of a collaborative effort between the two. (...)
Not only did we get Boneface to design these two characters and several others as well, but his art in general has definitely had an influence on my work over the last few years two. So I’d definitely say out of all of the things I’ve seen and heard out of the last few years the most influential would have to be Boneface.
Click to expand...

nKfUUwM.jpg
Click to expand...

A lot more at the link.
Hopefully some people will stop saying this is No More Heroes 3 but without a number too now...
 
In my mind this is still No More Heroes 3 until a game with that number in its title comes out. And even there I'll still consider this part of the main series, like GTA Vice City or San Andreas.
 
I think Nintendo should go for it and put Travis in the next Smash, i mean, NMH is basically a nintendo console franchise.
 
Mr. F said:
The messaging around this has been really weird
Click to expand...

No it hasn't.

Suda51 is making a Switch game called Travis Strikes Again that has Indie support in the game. He also would love for Travis to join Smash. If Travis Strikes Again proves to sell really well then he'll make another NMH installment.
 
So the games are close to real time.

NMH to NMH 2 was 2 years real world and 3 years in game
NMH 2 to Travis Strikes back are 8 years real world and 2 years in game.

Also hopefully this will stop talk of No More Heroes 2 not being canon. Thats was always crazt. Suda even wrote the animated midquel to the two games No More Heroes 1.5 months after No More Heroes 2 released.
 
Some people still seem confused here.
He never said that it was NMH3, some fans were trying to force that in.
This is more like a GTA Vice City, The Third Birthday or similar stuff. It's still a No More Heroes game.

Yearsoflurking said:
Do we even know if this is a full scale game or if it will have a similar budget ?
Click to expand...

It's a full scale game, but smaller team than NMH2.
 
From what I get for all this, this is gonna be more of a side adventure, but continuing what happened previously, just it's not a full blown up sequel and more of a fun proyect where you play other people games on the NMH universe.

Which is cool, alright.
 
There aren't any other titles right now that I've got any concrete plans to make sequels for, aside from this obviously, but as far as remasters go, one game that I've really wanted to bring back for a long time, that's really hard to play in it's original form these days is Killer7. Killer7 has always been really popular with fans, I've always been a big fan of it myself and a lot has gone on with it over the years. Recently more and more I've been thinking that I really want to do something to bring it back and present it not only to newer and younger gamers who haven't had a chance to play it yet but also to people who played it in the past and want to play it again for example through Steam or something along . There isn't anything that can be concretely stated at the moment but that's definitely something where I want to do whatever I can to make it happen.
Click to expand...

Yes please.

Also, can people please stop this bullshit now about NMH2 not being canon or something.
 
They really need to drop a gameplay trailer lol to clear everything up. I would be stoked for a NMH 3 though. I'm hoping Travis Strikes Again sells alright.
 
PSqueak said:
Bad Man is guaranteed to be a boss since he gets sucked along with Travis, they could bullshit other assassins have been sucked into Death Drives all over the world.
Click to expand...

Basically.
He'll fight bosses (like assassins before), but it won't be some "rise up the assassin ranks" again, and be more focused on the gaming aspect. Let It Die seems like a good comparison there too.
 
No More Heroes "3" doesn't need to exist. The sequel was already too iterative and ended the story. If you want another game with Travis then the approach that this game seems to be doing is just fine and might as well be NMH3 in all but name rather than another mundane "rise through the ranks of assassin" setup. TSA certainly has a way more interesting premise and followup to NMH1 than NMH2 was.

I get the feeling Suda doesn't exactly have half the answers for this game yet. It was obvious he wanted this to be the start of a new series and wanting put Travis back onto the map as a character, so talking about a "real" NMH3 right now seems like a formality when what he explicitly wanted to do for Travis' return and Suda's directorial return was a smaller scale return-to-roots game. A big budgeted NMH with a big 3 plastered on the end just doesn't sound all that interesting considering what made this series appealing in the first place. Travis is better as a vehicle for satire, so I'd like to hope that whatever comes after TSA with him is just another crazy concept.
 
In my head: "This is the game that replaces no more heroes 2"
Actually: "this is a spinoff no more heroes game that is letting itself be weirder"
 
Leafhopper said:
Oh I thought they said it was after 2.

Huh. Okay.
Click to expand...
Evil Monkey DTT said:
In my head: "This is the game that replaces no more heroes 2"
Actually: "this is a spinoff no more heroes game that is letting itself be weirder"
Click to expand...

It's four years after 2, since 2 is three years after 1. Suda does not consider this a direct sequel to 2 because it does not build off the story from 2, being a new adventure. But it's still taking place after 2.

The reason why he only mentions the first game setting wise is because Badman is only really relevant to 1's story.
 
Evil Monkey DTT said:
In my head: "This is the game that replaces no more heroes 2"
Actually: "this is a spinoff no more heroes game that is letting itself be weirder"
Click to expand...

The game is a sequel, but setting that aside I'm not sure NMH2's canonicity really matters in the grand scheme of this game. Travis being out in the boonies and getting sucked into a video game alongside a vengeance-seeking relative of an assassin from the first game is something that can be slotted into the post-story of either game.

On paper it's definitely a more interesting "No More Heroes 2" though. It's the kind of sequel I didn't realize I actually wanted to No More Heroes until I stopped and thought about why I fell in love with that game.
 
Some people seem to have these rigid ideas in their mind that ignore what devs say. Suda considers the numbered NMH games about Travis fighting a bunch of assassins and climbing ranks. This isn't about that even though, gameplay wise, it's the same beat-em up style of gameplay.

This doesn't necessarily mean it's a "spinoff", in the traditional sense. It's more akin to Majora's Mask. A Gaiden aka side story, but not necessarily a pared down or smaller scale experience
 
Slate Soda said:
So is Travis visiting these indie worlds or is he just wearing indie-world t-shirts?
Click to expand...

Travis is visiting original Indie worlds created by Suda, he will have T-Shirts of indie games from the real world like Hot line Miami, and Shovel Knight, he also said he has 15 other indies lined up and trying to get more

SatoAilDarko said:
I mean Hotline Miami is a world/level so Travis probably still is.
Click to expand...

Its not, that was a mistake made by Nintendo in the Direct, all Indie worlds in the game are original

BRSxIgnition said:
Someone needs to ask him if he's bringing a NMH 1+2 collection to the Switch.

Would buy the hell out of that.
Click to expand...

All these interviews from PAX I have no idea why no one from the press asked that.
 
There aren’t any other titles right now that I’ve got any concrete plans to make sequels for, aside from this obviously, but as far as remasters go, one game that I’ve really wanted to bring back for a long time, that’s really hard to play in it’s original form these days is Killer7. Killer7 has always been really popular with fans, I’ve always been a big fan of it myself and a lot has gone on with it over the years. Recently more and more I’ve been thinking that I really want to do something to bring it back and present it not only to newer and younger gamers who haven’t had a chance to play it yet but also to people who played it in the past and want to play it again for example through Steam or something along . There isn’t anything that can be concretely stated at the moment but that’s definitely something where I want to do whatever I can to make it happen.
Click to expand...

YES! Please someone make that happen :( I REALLY want a Killer7 HD for PC and consoles. I'll even multiple dip if it happens.
 
jmizzal said:
Travis is visiting original Indie worlds created by Suda, he will have T-Shirts of indie games from the real world like Hot line Miami, and Shovel Knight, he also said he has 15 other indies lined up and trying to get more
Click to expand...

Having him forcefully wear a real indy game t-shirt in the level that is a parody of said indy game would be hilarious.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Doug Bowser - "some people...may not be able to afford [the Switch 2's] price point. That's why we wanted to make the other Switch platforms available
4 5 6 7 8
367
17K
ZoukGalaxy replied
Games Leaving Xbox Gamepass on March 15th - Lies of P, Yakuza 4/5, No More Heroes 3, & more
News 
23
2K
DenchDeckard replied
  • Poll
Which will be more successful: marathon or duskbloods?
2
76
148
yurinka replied
DF Direct Weekly #208: Switch 2 Specs Breakdown, DLSS Info, Switch 2 vs Steam Deck + More!
News Analysis  2 3 4 5
203
7K
Det replied
  • Poll
Nintendo Switch 2 Won’t Be as Successful as Switch 1, Says Analyst
Opinion Analysis  2
74
4K
Certinty replied
Top Bottom