Still doesn't make that -I don't know how to call it, a movie it isn't, more like, a tuesday 10am sermon from an 80 years old senile pastor from the Westboro Baptist Church of Richard Donner- better than the other, better, Superman movies.
Suicide Squad Review Thread: As Fresh As Green Lantern!
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DecoReturns
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Too bad Henry doesn't have much of a Clark to begin with. They really should've gone Man of Steel 2 first.
Netherscourge
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Well, I'm talking about the Justice Leaguers.
The problem seems to be direction/editing. Some of the actors are not great (Cavill, for example), but I'm looking forward to Affleck's Batman and would like WB to just get out of his way and let him and Johns do what they want with it.
Suicide Squad will almost certainly make money, but assuming audiences dislike it (a safe assumption at this point) there will be an uphill battle for future DCEU movies. Eventually good will or bad will is reflected in results, and this will certainly hurt Wonder Woman and Justice League's results even if they are good. Batman and Robin, for example, likely hurt Batman Begins' results, while Batman Begins being solid likely helped Dark Knight.
24 BEST AND WORST DC SUPERHERO MOVIES
From biggest Rotten Tomatoes to smallest, not counting Suicide Squad
LOL at the best DCCU movie being behind Swamp Thing
Also, fuck yeah Superman Returns
From biggest Rotten Tomatoes to smallest, not counting Suicide Squad
LOL at the best DCCU movie being behind Swamp Thing
Also, fuck yeah Superman Returns
Netherscourge
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Disney would have to buy WB or try to pry DC away from them.
24 BEST AND WORST DC SUPERHERO MOVIES
From biggest Rotten Tomatoes to smallest, not counting Suicide Squad
LOL at the best DCCU movie being behind Swamp Thing
Also, fuck yeah Superman Returns
IMO Batman Returns is much too high. Batman Forever is too high. BvS is too low.
Surprised, but OK with Superman 2 being so high. Otherwise this looks like a solid ranking to me.
What must be frustrating for DC is that their movies are underperforming, but otherwise they are doing well. Rebirth is going well for them, their games sell well, their animated stuff (while not what it was a decade ago) is solid, and they've had much more success on TV than Marvel. Their movies, however, should be where the real money is and they're dropping the ball pretty handily there.
FunkyPajamas
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They could use Cavill as Bizarro and keep Affleck as Batman
Seriously though, I'm in the same camp (as I imagine others are too). I don't have a problem with Affleck or (so far) Gadot, and Momoa/Ezra have my interest piqued, at the very least. But Superman's characterization and most of the direction/writing for the movies has been less than ideal. I wouldn't mind Cavill as Supes so much if we had the proper director and writer combo. I like the guy well enough to enjoy some of his other movies.
Right, I don't think SS will do poorly but I don't think it's going to set the world on fire (in terms of box office), so as you said, it'll be harder for the next DCCU movie to just break out of the shadow of these lukewarm entries.
holy crap that bottom row lol.
Wag
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Pervy Superman is the best Superman?The best DC movie outside of Nolan's Batman movies in recent years is:
As insane as that sounds.
24 BEST AND WORST DC SUPERHERO MOVIES
From biggest Rotten Tomatoes to smallest, not counting Suicide Squad
LOL at the best DCCU movie being behind Swamp Thing
Also, fuck yeah Superman Returns
You really see the magnificence of BvS when Swamp thing, Return of the Swamp thing, and 60's batman movie are higher than it.
The best DC movie outside of Nolan's Batman movies in recent years is:
As insane as that sounds.
Loved the world and tone of this movie. A few missteps, but I loved it.
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Batman Returns* and Superman Returns over Batman '89 is plain bullshit.
Sorry, got it wrong.
Sorry, got it wrong.
Gordon Shumway
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It was so boring though. I'll give it this..his Christopher Reeve impression was so on the money it was spooky.
That's not forever, it's Returns. Still bullshit though.
Batman Forever isn't. Batman Returns is
FunkyPajamas
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Nicole Kidman man.
I cannot sanction your buffoonery.
edit: damn your ninja edit.
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Sorry, got it wrong, fixed it now.
Still bullshit though.
andythinkpad
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I know. That's pretty shocking to me. This movie is going to tear DC fans apart.
johnnydrama
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I entered this thread after a few hours, and apparently, Nolan's trilogy is garbage now. Quality discourse.
I'm just going to remember the good times again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s4aAp8OxGg
Nolan pls 🙁
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s4aAp8OxGg
Nolan pls 🙁
Yeezus H. Christ
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Ahasverus, Badass2961, Liquidsnake, atr0cious - how are y'all holding up?
You tell me.
"The Nolan has to come back"
"But what if he doesn't exist anymore?"
"He must... He must."
Gordon Shumway
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Every. Damn. Thread.
Also, Iron Man 3 and Thor 2..it's a horrible cycle, but you get accustomed to it!
The best DC movie outside of Nolan's Batman movies in recent years is:
As insane as that sounds.
Nope. Man of Steel is better then Superman Returns. Sure Superman kills a bad guy, but at least isn't a deadbeat dad who needs to get saved by his baby moma's new boyfriend
Ironically, if they were to retcon the DCEU to have Dr. Manhattan create it, critically speaking it would be the best association with the DCEU of any film so far.
Then ZacK Snyder can really take credit for shaping the universe with his takes on Alan Moore and Frank Miller's work.
So poetic. So meta.
Then ZacK Snyder can really take credit for shaping the universe with his takes on Alan Moore and Frank Miller's work.
So poetic. So meta.
Yeezus H. Christ
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Am I remembering correctly that Clark impregnated Lois and then used the amnesia kiss so she forgot it ever happened?
I'm waiting for the Spider-man Goblin quotes. That's always my favorite phase
Because Man of Steel superman doesn't kill anyone, or let anyone get hurt eh?
😏
I'm damaged now.
Evil's Bane
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Reading this thread has been...uh, interesting.
Seeing this on friday. I've lowered my expectations and I'm kind of expecting to enjoy it a bit. I just can't see this being as bad as the last couple.
Seeing this on friday. I've lowered my expectations and I'm kind of expecting to enjoy it a bit. I just can't see this being as bad as the last couple.
broncobuster
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Nolan did what no other director of these films would or could. He finished his trilogy and that was that. It's admirable and I don't know when we will see it again for comic films. The man got out of the game in the nick of time.
Although I imagine every other day WB execs beg him to make Inception 2.
Lokimaru
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Yeah the rest of Rebirth is doing well but I read that the Rebirth Superman titles are selling like shit compared to where they were before Rebirth.
ThoseDeafMutes
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The best DC movie outside of Nolan's Batman movies in recent years is:
As insane as that sounds.
Nah Watchmen fucking demolished it.
Unless you're not counting that.
ElBoxyBrown
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You prefer this over the Nolan movies? Can you even tell me any remarkable thing that happens in this other than Kryptonite island?The best DC movie outside of Nolan's Batman movies in recent years is:
As insane as that sounds.
This is perfect hahaha
Watchmen is good, particularly the extra long version, though it's too literal in its adaptation of the book at times (which I blame directly on Snyder).
legit lmao.
I agree with putting batman begins twice
ThoseDeafMutes
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Can't really win on that front, it already gets blasted for some of the divergences it did make in the interest of narrative efficiency (e.g. by tying the ending into the Manhattan storyline instead of a separate one about psychics and genetic engineering, they can cut out a bunch of scenes). There's a couple of gaffers I remember arguing with about that who claimed it ruined the movie. I think it's actually superior to the original in that one area!
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