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Suicide Squad Review Thread: As Fresh As Green Lantern!
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old manatee
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What an inspired musical choice.
It tries way to hard to be hokey and "aw shucks mister" and instead it's just shit. That syrupy ass score was terrible as well.
Had they played it straight, that movie really could've been special.
Hey I enjoy the third act of TFA more than most!
On my recent rewatch though I came to the conclusion it's the train sequence that really kills the momentum, much more so than the montage. The train scenes aren't very good.
Interesting tidbit in an article about the behind the scene problems of Suicide Squad by The Hollywood Reporter:
That's a whole lot of money. I think it's possible but not very likely.
That's a whole lot of money. I think it's possible but not very likely.
Dash_Riprock
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Damn, looks like the budget was a lot bigger than the $175 million reported if it needs $800 million to break even.
Well that comes down to what you like in your trailers, I don't like being spoiled on the whole plot in a trailer so I liked it.
The Bohemian Rhapsody one has over half a million likes on just the main video, I'm pretty sure the music helped.
old manatee
Banned
compared to what?
So basically WB has no idea what they're doing.
This article is so damning. Everything Warner Bros tried to claim gave them an advantage over Marvel is shot down. What director worth their salt wants to work for a studio that puts together an alternate cut with the help of the people who made the trailers?
As a Netflix fan I am super worried about Bright right now
Unless reshoots were stupid expensive, I have a hard time believing that number
Slurpy2k20
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I could neverm ever fucking understand why everyone was so excited about this movie based on the trailers, as if it was going to be some masterpiece. The cringe-worthy trailers didn't give me the slightest bit of excitement to see the movie. This has been hyped for like 2 years, so one might think that they had something strong to hype. Pathetic.
It also matters WHERE the money is made, as studios don't see as much of the overseas ticket sales (depending on the territory).
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
Dash_Riprock
Member
Remember Fant4stic...
I don't get this. If it needs to make $750-800m just to break even, how would only getting close to that be considered a win? Wouldn't they be losing money if they come in under the break even point?
Cringe is such a thrown around word nowadays that honestly I don't know what you're referring to, yes not all the dialogue in the trailers is good but it's far from being "pathetic".
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Lord Virgin
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That should be the tagline on every DC movie forward.
"It's not as bad as you think it is."
holy fucking fuck
this thing isn't even doing $500 million worldwide, calling it now.
look at BvS' drops after the first weekend. I expect worse, considering it's Joker and Harley Quinn carrying this movie rather than fucking Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman.
xmen apocalypse did $534 million worldwide. a shitty suicide squad movie isn't beating xmen, I think.
I definitely think a number of the earlier Marvel films got cut a lot of slack by American reviewers, getting higher grades than they deserve. Probably riding a high of superhero films being made fashionable to appreciate by Nolan and Disney laying on the production value. For instance, I'm pretty sure most people with no particular fanboy leaning and in hindsight would actually rate Thor 2 higher than Thor 1 on account of having at least interesting art direction, though both are beyond mediocre. Iron Man 1 was great, but they must have really loved RDJ to not give the sequels a fat D-. Avengers is pretty bad as well, the only commendable thing is that it doesn't completely unravel as you might expect.
In that sense I can understand DC fanboys who feel shortchanged by the simple reason that the appropriate superhero apathy has set in so that critics are back to properly critiquing the men in tights films again.
In that sense I can understand DC fanboys who feel shortchanged by the simple reason that the appropriate superhero apathy has set in so that critics are back to properly critiquing the men in tights films again.
Agreed
Dash_Riprock
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That WB execs could actually be "blindsided and deeply rattled" by the critical ass-kicking BvS got tells me there are utter imbeciles running this company.
What kind of bubble do you have to be living in to not see the flaws with that film?
What kind of bubble do you have to be living in to not see the flaws with that film?
Because expectations are now worse. They know they probably won't recoup the costs so the less money they end up losing, the better.
B-B-B-But the REMAKE was better!
I think it's just management speak. Obviously they won't be happy if it loses money.
With that said, they will still make money on merchandise and blu ray / DVD sales, so they can lose money in the theatrical release and still make money over the life of the project.
Or better yet, we finally get to see the teen Tony story arc play out on the big screen! Yeah?
I am down for that
old manatee
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I feel like this movie is making edge lords look bad.
I think some things have started to fatigue critics, like the "big bad from the sky" third act or thoughtless destruction porn glossing over civilians. The difference is that Marvel movies have reacted to that and begun changing things up in that regard (Ant-Man, Civil War), while BvS and SS are still moving on that same track.
But more than that, I also think movies like the first Iron Man and the first Thor have a sense of charm and personality that, say, Snyder's last two movies don't have. And that holds up better than any aged genre tropes.
I mean, at the end of the day, quality is quality. Deadpool and Civil War broke out with good reviews because they were good. BvS did not get good reviews because it wasn't good. If Suicide Squad is getting bad reviews, I'm willing to bet it has more to do with because it's also not a good movie, than any other subconscious reason going through critics' heads.
CassidyIzABeast
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Wouldn't be the first time WB needed to make an egregious amount of money to consider a movie a success
You mean like last year's Avengers: AoU?
There's no conspiracy against DC, but there is a bias that critics have.
AoU made pretty several obvious efforts to show the Avengers going out of their way to save civilians. It was pretty much the entire crux of the third act (which, I concede, was another big bad threat falling from the sky :lol).
edit: unless that's exactly what you meant, in which case, nvm!
Yeezus H. Christ
Banned
This doesn't make any sense. Why would critics have a bias for Marvel? What reasoning is there for that?
I keep seeing hurt DC fans postulate this theory, and they never offer any explanation for it beyond 'Marvel movies have a higher RT'.
Marvel movies aren't all critically acclaimed, and with Age of Ultron/Thor 2, this was proven true. With those two particular films, sure they didn't get 33%, but they were competently made, scripted, paced, and edited films, and little more than that. They were average blockbusters, like Ghostbusters. They're not bad enough to warrant a sub-50s rating, but they're not good enough to get above 60s/70s. They're passable to decent. 66% is not a good rating, it's 7% from being Rotten, lol.
Only with truly good MCU films like CW, TWS, or GOTG, do critics start giving it high ratings, because they're actually good films.
Strangelove77
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Won't someone please think of the children?
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
Banned
So, is Sony still gonna make Sinister Six?
MarkMclovin
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Some of the gifs in this thread are amazing and I'm only 10 pages in!
With the current WB board it would be rebooter worse. It's best to just wait until those clowns are out and then start thinking of soft Flashpoint reboot.
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Lord Virgin
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Snyder will save it with Justice League!
AHA-Lambda
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800m?
Christ what is going on over at WB??
Christ what is going on over at WB??
This.
Furthermore, as with many elements of BvS (and MoS), it is not necessarily the concept of the ending threat that led/contributed to it's reception, it is the quality of the film.
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