Pretty sure shazam is standalone
Edit: yup http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/09/shazam-has-screenwriter-and-will-not-be-part-of-bvsdoj/
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'Suicide Squad' to Star Will Smith, Jared Leto, Margot Robbie, Jai Courtney
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Edit: yup http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/09/shazam-has-screenwriter-and-will-not-be-part-of-bvsdoj/
Nah, that honor goes to Civil War. Not because of the properties or actors involved but because the Russo brothers earned it.
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Haha, Will Smith?
Wiktor
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I liked Cap2, but nah... Hopefully with Iron Man as bad guy they will avoid the usual pitfal of Marvel flicks, which is weak villains.
Still, I'm more hyped about GotG2 from Marvel line up than Cap3.
BadAss2961
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There's no confirmation that it won't eventually tie into the DCCU. Even if the movie doesn't reference it, I highly doubt they'd do anything to write Shazam and The Rock's Black Adam out of that continuity.
unholyrevenger72
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That just means he won't be in Justice League, and it won't be MoS grim-dark, or MCU crackin jokes during the apocalypse
E the Shaggy
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Odds on Will Smith actually wearing the mask at all in this movie?
A billion to 1?
A billion to 1?
BadAss2961
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There's no reason why he can't. Deadshot is often without his mask, and also has designs that show more face.
Somebody needed to blow up.
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Oprah, as Amanda Waller?
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I like it!
They already listed the 5 actors in the SS... do doesn't mean Joker is in the squad itself.
Escape Goat
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Fantastic Four has some company.
I say a modified mask that maybe retracts or covers his face when needed for precision aiming.
But yes, it won't be the bulk of the movie. Probably a handful of scenes
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I'm totally hyped for this flick, of that there is no doubt. Dirty Dozen/Ocean's 11 combined with supervillains? That sounds fucking awesome.
Smith better play Deadshot as a bastard and not just a cocky rogue with a heart of gold. Maybe a deep, glint of gold, deep beneath the surface, exposed at the very end.
I actually really like the Deadshot they have in the Arrowverse. His first few appearances were a bit rough, but he got legit great in Season 2.
Smith better play Deadshot as a bastard and not just a cocky rogue with a heart of gold. Maybe a deep, glint of gold, deep beneath the surface, exposed at the very end.
I actually really like the Deadshot they have in the Arrowverse. His first few appearances were a bit rough, but he got legit great in Season 2.
Thank god... why on Earth was the Chun-Li guy ever given the movie in the first place?
NotTheGuyYouKill
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The thing that seems most out of place to me is Leto as Joker. I'm actually really happy that Leto got the role, he's great. I just have no idea how the hell the Joker would work in a Suicide Squad flick.
Not really a team player, him being a villain would be weird.
Not really a team player, him being a villain would be weird.
I would not be shocked if he's there to plant seeds to a future film... for the same reason Luthor might be in the film too. And that the majority of the film does not really concern him but he's there to just further legitimize the film.
Gambit 1138
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That just says the tone will be different. It's still part of the DCCU
With a Suicide Squad story the idea of there being a "villain" doesn't make sense. I'll say that what would probably work best would be to have Joker be essentially the protagonist in a complex con - he sets himself up as a target for a Suicide Squad mission, making them do the legwork to "take him out", but some of the members are actually working under his directives to pull off something entirely different. That would be a pretty typical classic Joker scheme, he wouldn't be a "villain" in the traditional sense, and he wouldn't have to be a team player, and the Suicide Squad would still be the Suicide Squad.
OricWindstar
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I would really dig this. I definitely don't see The Joker being in the squad.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Okay, that legit sounds pretty awesome. Everyone comes out looking pretty good.
Though I'm still holding out hope that this depiction of the Joker is a fucking horror movie nightmare:
Discotheque
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eisenberg's lex tho. really curious how that's gonna play out. clearly they're looking to social network as an inspiration with that casting but i imagine instead of the socially awkward cocky genius we're getting rid of the awkward part.
BadAss2961
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That's an idea.
Assault on Arkham handled it fine. You can have Joker as a big player in a SS film without him being part of the Squad. Harley Quinn being in the lineup opens up many ways to include him.
I might have imagined it, but wasn't there some leak about how the new Lex is going to be a mix of the tone in Google/Facebook and the personality of Steve Jobs?
Escape Goat
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Okay, that legit sounds pretty awesome. Everyone comes out looking pretty good.
Though I'm still holding out hope that this depiction of the Joker is a fucking horror movie nightmare:
If I had a nickel for every time you said "legit"...
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hard to keep track, seems there's a 'leak' about all of these movies every few days lol. that might have been speculation but it makes a lot of sense.
Revolutionary
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Jai Courtney ughhhh
Rest of the cast seems solid though. Could be a fun movie.
Rest of the cast seems solid though. Could be a fun movie.
Hydrogen Bluebird
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Hardy, Leto, and Will Smith give this cast considerable star power.
Ugh.
DC, you know, there is this guy who is not too old, not too young, who has both the looks, acting chops AND the voice of a great joker.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pAn49oUtHJE
Seriously, just give Troy the makeup, scars, etc. And he's good to go.
I mean I'm not familiar with Leto and his work so I can't actually say he is a bad choice or anything, but I'm just saying...Troy Baker...come on man.
DC, you know, there is this guy who is not too old, not too young, who has both the looks, acting chops AND the voice of a great joker.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pAn49oUtHJE
Seriously, just give Troy the makeup, scars, etc. And he's good to go.
I mean I'm not familiar with Leto and his work so I can't actually say he is a bad choice or anything, but I'm just saying...Troy Baker...come on man.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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"Legit" is legit.
It's legit, but not really that based Guy. Cmonn
RoninChaos
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Give the Waller role to CCH Pounder and stop fucking around. Oprah isn't gonna play a crazy psycho like Waller.
Ninja Scooter
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Ugh.
DC, you know, there is this guy who is not too old, not too young, who has both the looks, acting chops AND the voice of a great joker.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pAn49oUtHJE
Seriously, just give Troy the makeup, scars, etc. And he's good to go.
I mean I'm not familiar with Leto and his work so I can't actually say he is a bad choice or anything, but I'm just saying...Troy Baker...come on man.
Leto is an incredible actor who just won an academy award. Some of you can be so narrow minded about these castings, like there can only be one interpretation of a character and someone as talented as Jared Leto can't be trusted to come up with his own awesome and memorable version. If it were up to some of you 50 year old mark hammil would have been cast in Dark Knight and we would have never gotten Ledger's amazing performance.
IncandescentPrecept
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So, why did they change Deadshot from white to black? Diversity? And of all the Australian actors, they could only get Jai Courtney?
50 year old Mark Hammil could pull off a future live action Dark Knight Returns movie. XD
Ugh.
DC, you know, there is this guy who is not too old, not too young, who has both the looks, acting chops AND the voice of a great joker.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pAn49oUtHJE
Seriously, just give Troy the makeup, scars, etc. And he's good to go.
I mean I'm not familiar with Leto and his work so I can't actually say he is a bad choice or anything, but I'm just saying...Troy Baker...come on man.
He doesn't have the smile.
... or maybe he has the perfect smile for Joker.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Deadshot being white isn't really an intrinsic part of his character.
BadAss2961
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Troy's a damn good voice actor, but come on man.Ugh.
DC, you know, there is this guy who is not too old, not too young, who has both the looks, acting chops AND the voice of a great joker.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pAn49oUtHJE
Seriously, just give Troy the makeup, scars, etc. And he's good to go.
I mean I'm not familiar with Leto and his work so I can't actually say he is a bad choice or anything, but I'm just saying...Troy Baker...come on man.
IncandescentPrecept
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The same thing could be said in most situations when the race of a character is changed.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I agree.
Ninja Scooter
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Which is why it's fine. It's not like casting a white guy to play Black Panther.
Bobby Roberts
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You're the first, right?
Thread made it 14 pages before someone started wondering about why Deadshot is a black guy in the movies.
The first overt case, anyway. I saw a couple "subtle" questions about why he was changed upthread.
IncandescentPrecept
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Odd. Usually people are in an uproar when the race of a character is changed like in The Last Airbender. I bet it would have caused quite a stir if Deadshot was of another race.
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