Dr.Guru of Peru
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why dont you just save us the dance and tell us how you really feel.
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'Suicide Squad' to Star Will Smith, Jared Leto, Margot Robbie, Jai Courtney
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why dont you just save us the dance and tell us how you really feel.
Ninja Scooter
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I don't necessarily agree with those kind of uproars in every case, but the reason you see them has to do with the fact that minorities have a hard enough time getting roles in Hollywood, so when a fictional character who happens to be black/hispanic/native american/asian is played by a white actor, you are going to get people upset about a minority actor (and they do exist) not getting that chance. The same in reverse is not true. Every other movie (especially comic book movies) has a white male lead, so giving one of those roles to a person of color (especially when their race is completely inconsequential to their character, and the only reason they are white in a lot of cases is because they were created in a time when every hero had to be a white male) why would anyone be upset?
Yup, he'll be great.
Also, he comes with the bonus of getting his many fans into cinemas to see a Suicide Squad movie they might otherwise not be interested in. It's win-win.
I guess even those people understand the irrationality of caring about the skin colour of a character who dresses like this in most of his depictions:
That said they'll most certainly make use of Will Smith's mug for the on-screen depiction. So I expect the "B-b-but he's white" argument to reach full force when the first images of the movie start coming out.
IncandescentPrecept
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I don't like change for the sake of change. I also don't like how minorities never get to play lead or major roles. I also don't like the rampant bias and discrimination in Hollywood and this forum.
How about change for the sake of diversity?
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Woah, that was like a magic trick.
BannedEpisode
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Let's get some fresh blood and a new take in this movie and cast a black guy for Deadshot!
Great Idea! Any up and comers?
Will Smith!
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Great Idea! Any up and comers?
Will Smith!
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Wiktor
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Because out of the big stars he's one of the few who can effortlessly pull of badassery coupled him hammy quality that Deadshot always had, without one hurting the other. You can't make Deadshot as straight badass, he needs to be at least a bit on a silly side and Smith is perfect for that.
Plus it will be nice to see Smith back again in something fun and good.
metalslimer
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Wiktor
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he's the biggest black star currently in Hollywood. So of course they will go for him. You think they will go for star-filled cast with people like Leto and Hardy and then cast unknown as a lead? How would that even work? He would get destroyed in screen presence.
You need somebody big and full of swag to be able to hold screen next to Hardy and a damn Joker, not to mention Harley Quinn.
We'll get black lead with unknown actor in Cyborg. But in Suicide Squad it just doesn't work. The characters are big league and the actors needed to be ones too.
Wiktor
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Because they have Harley. Can't introduce her into the screen without Joker.
Also, nobody said Joker is in the squad. He will propably play an antagonistic role to the squad, not be a part of it.
Wiktor
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Idris Elba or Chiwetel Ejiofor for Deadshot?
THey would work for Deathstroke maybe, but but Deadshot. This isn't a fully serious character. He's a mustache twirling villain. He needs to have some goofball quality to him. Deadshot isn't meant to be taken completely serious. He can be convincingly badass, but he can't be played fully straight.
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Seriously, I'd rather have either Idris Elba or chiwetel ejiofor. Anyone but that grinning goofball who keeps trying to force his untalented children down our throats.
I'm not seeing anything about Will Smith that makes me think he won't do a good job. I can hear him in my head, "Yeah, I've got the shot", "Bang", and it doesn't sound odd to me. I think his voice works for the character.
As a cocky, "best at what he does" assassin who cares for his young daughter I can see Will Smith doing well.
I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to get Boyega for the role. With Star Wars giving him such close ties to Disney though, maybe he'll end up with Marvel instead (Blade reboot, anyone?).
Ninja Scooter
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They already cast Cyborg. It's Ray Fisher.
Bobby Roberts
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Aside from the fact they already cast Ray Fisher (who Boyega beat out for the lead in Star Wars) far as I can tell, Disney doesn't like crossing the streams like that within the company. Having Marvel get mad at Lucasfilm because of contractual issues is a situation they'd likely try to avoid as much as possible. Boyega's already probably tied up in a multi-film contract. Having him sign ANOTHER multi-film contract that's guaranteed to somewhat complicate his schedule is just asking for trouble for the parent company.
Oh did they? News to me.
Ninja Scooter
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I'm not so sure an actor would even want that. Would Boyega ever have time to do ANYTHING else in the next 10 years if he locked himself into both the Star Wars Universe and the MCU? Dude would probably develop PTSD if he ever saw another green screen or CG marker.
JokerAceX
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What happened with Joker?
He literally peeled his face off
Discotheque
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Three of these guys are now DC Comic Villains. Two of them are Boomerang. I see someone else in this picture that should get a DC Villain Role.
and the showrunner is making daredevil. comic book companies like spartacus.
JokerAceX
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They also had Joker beating on Harley in Assault on Arkham
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Jokepost? It's Chadwick Boseman.
Succinct Verbosity
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I think Will Smith will be fine, depending on how he's written. Outside of that, this is some fantastic casting.
Discotheque
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he could play a younger version of tchalla like a flashback or something
Ninja Scooter
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Considering how old that was I wonder if that was a reference to him being up for Black Panther.
Wiktor
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Not to mention two women from Spartacus are also in CWverse and one of them is the most badass female ever in superhero tv show.
Lucy Lawless did SHIELD and Lesley-Ann Brandt was in Gotham.
Wiktor
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Yep. Spartacus is just a gift that keeps on giving. Hope many shows will go back to that well again and again in the future.
tringworldso
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Jai Courtney? He was the worst part of Die Hard 5. Not that the movie was any good but he made it even worse. Never heard of Cara Dev(sp). Hope Smith can keep his ego in check and not force himself into every scene. Everyone else sounds great.
Didn't the Agents of SHIELD showrunners write for it too? Lol. It really IS a comic book adaptation magic box!
Grizzlyjin
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Will Smith is good casting as Deadshot, especially for a Suicide Squad movie. They're villains, but they're going to have strokes of being likable.
Gambit 1138
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If they wanted a black character they should have added Bronze Tiger to the roster not fucking change Deadshots race. I'm getting sick and tired of this bullshit.
Ninja Scooter
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lmao Yeah everyone should just be white.
Ninja Scooter
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First Harvey Dent now Deadshot? Somebody needs to stop WB. I mean, who will young white comic book fans have to relate to on the big screen?
Gambit 1138
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Thats such a dumb fucking weak sauce counter. I would be just as pissed if they changed Blade or Falcon's race.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
This is a joke, right?
*subscribes to thread*
Suicide Squad |OT| It's About Affirmative Action in Comic Book Movie Casting
Ninja Scooter
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Deadshot was created in 1950. That's literally the only reason he is white, because he was created at a time when everybody had to be white. His race is completely inconsequential to his character. It's such a stupid ass thing to be so outraged about.
Gambit 1138
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It's not a joke. Changing an established character's race really pisses me off. Blade should be black, Sue Storm should be white, Prince of Persia should be middle eastern, and barry allen should have fucking blonde hair.
metalslimer
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As mentioned before, when minority characters get changed to white, it sucks because of the general lack of diversity in popular media to begin with. Why in the world would you be that upset a white character had his race changed?
How does it affect the character at all?
How does it affect the character at all?
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