I guess that is an option; by my best estimate they could be anywhere from 80-100 chapters behind. It's also worth noting that Sket Dance is recently ranking about the same or slightly better than Gintama in Weekly Shonen Jump.
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Summer 2012 Anime |OT2| Of Suspended Anime Due To Olympics
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Every show has a beginning and an end; its innovation was having a clear middle, rather than what particularly was there.
dakkumauji
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Jinrui 09
The fairies antics are really what makes me like this show.
The fairies antics are really what makes me like this show.
Dedication Through Light
Member
Accel World (rewatch) 1-3
Just mainly paying attention to the visuals and its flashier than I remember. I think its vastly enjoyable a second time through and its really growing on me and KYH is hilarious. Taku/Haru moments still win and the backdoor!
Monochrome Factor 1
I dont understand what Haruka is adding to the plot as she seems distracting, But Kenga was hilarious with Akira, and Akira is a really cool and powerful main character and that blushing. Shirogane is alright. Is their power really transferred through kisses? Really enjoyable with the supernatural ghost shadow and light stuff, will definitely keep watching.
Just mainly paying attention to the visuals and its flashier than I remember. I think its vastly enjoyable a second time through and its really growing on me and KYH is hilarious. Taku/Haru moments still win and the backdoor!
Monochrome Factor 1
I dont understand what Haruka is adding to the plot as she seems distracting, But Kenga was hilarious with Akira, and Akira is a really cool and powerful main character and that blushing. Shirogane is alright. Is their power really transferred through kisses? Really enjoyable with the supernatural ghost shadow and light stuff, will definitely keep watching.
Jex
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Perhaps the rest of them don't snap quite as publicly.
Bokura ga Ita is my main example of this. I read a bit of the manga after it won the Shogakukan Award a few years back and surprisingly loved it, but the anime captured absolutely none of the atmosphere that the manga creates. Shoujo romantic dramas often have very "wispy" artwork, with soft lines and panels that blur into each other. It makes everything seem hazy and wistful and makes even the most ridiculous melodrama seem somehow more emotionally affecting, I guess. The live action movie adaptation has been a huge hit at the cinema, incidentally.
It's odd because Daichi does such great work with the Fruits Basket anime, but that's much funnier than Bokura ga Ita ever was and comedy is really his strength.
Other examples of weak shoujo anime are:
Fushigi Yuugi and Ayashi no Ceres (both by Studio Pierrot, both Yuu Watase adaptations) - Fushigi Yuugi was infamously low budget, even at the time, and Ayashi no Ceres unfortunately didn't improve matters much. Watase's manga artwork is infamously good (sometimes to the exclusion of anything like a decent plot...) and although Fushigi Yuugi, with its fantasy setting and harem of bishounen, could get away with okay artwork, Ceres is set in the modern day and is a significantly darker work, and would have benefited from much better animation in its numerous action sequences.
Aishiteruze Baby is Usagi Drop but with the father figure being a teenager. Although the story itself was touching and nicely handled, the animation was severely limited. Who remembers AishiBaby now, while Usagi Drop gets a live action adaptation and a beautiful anime from Production IG? For a similar big name shoujo adaptation with poor production values you could look at Itazurana Kiss from the same studio.
Glass no Kamen, the grandma of shoujo manga, has been animated twice. I've only seen the modern adaptation, but the whole point is that this is a story about acting, and yet none of the girls actually act in it because the animation isn't good enough - they strike poses and proclaim, but although that works to an extent in manga it just doesn't cut it in a visual medium IMO.
These are just a few examples where the charm of the story - or at least its "impact" - has been dulled by poor production values. To be fair, there are several excellent shoujo adaptations with good production values or direction, such as:
- The Madhouse CLAMP adaptations, particularly Cardcaptor Sakura and X, had sumptuous animation
- the Please Save My Earth OVAs, which are beautifully atmospheric thanks to the music and art being top notch
- Kare Kano, where the frequently appalling animation is rendered charming by the quality of the scripts and the occasional visual invention
- Fruits Basket, as mentioned above
- Skip Beat!, which does "acting" much more entertainingly than Glass no Kamen does
- Ouran High School Host Club, which absolutely surpasses its original manga
- Utena, obviously
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Oda Nobuna 8
Another weird first person POV shot of dude feeding a loli:
I wonder if this is a new trend in anime directing!
Also, I'd love to live in this supposed future of his:
Maybe his future is also an alternate reality!
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Jinrui 9
This was cute.
For a one off, non-arc episode, it really feels like it went back to the absurdities of the first arc rather than the scifi stuff that's been happening with the Y/Voyager/Assistant arcs. I think it would have been nice if this was slotted in between two of those arcs, but maybe this episode is signalling a change of tone for the final episodes.
Still, watching Watashi basically play a live action version of
was fun. It was also a nice reminder of what a
lol
Another weird first person POV shot of dude feeding a loli:
I wonder if this is a new trend in anime directing!
Also, I'd love to live in this supposed future of his:
Maybe his future is also an alternate reality!
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Jinrui 9
This was cute.
For a one off, non-arc episode, it really feels like it went back to the absurdities of the first arc rather than the scifi stuff that's been happening with the Y/Voyager/Assistant arcs. I think it would have been nice if this was slotted in between two of those arcs, but maybe this episode is signalling a change of tone for the final episodes.
Still, watching Watashi basically play a live action version of
Civilization with the fairies
bureaucrat she can be.
chickdigger802
Banned
Lol I kinda wish there was a side story of real world shit of SAO.
Give me a gruff detective with a sassy sidekick.
Give me a gruff detective with a sassy sidekick.
Just checked out a few clips of the Bokura ga Ita anime and it's really making a compelling case to make me stay with reading the manga.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
How bad does it look? lol
ew.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
Thanks very much for the detailed response. This is where my inexperience really leaves me at a disadvantage when trying to form general conclusions. I suppose shoujo manga have been particularly unfortunate in receiving low budget adaptations; perhaps that's a side-effect of the traditional emphasis on investing animation resources into action instead of character acting. Aishiteruze Baby had actually slipped my mind - I've seen some rather unattractive screenshots of it, but I still want to check it out for some reason. I'm certainly glad that Usagi Drop received better treatment.
I'll have to add Skip Beat! to my to-watch list; it hadn't been on my radar before now.
It is seriously in the running for the most bland visuals I've ever seen in anime.
Jex
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This is truly a glorious day.
Jex
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I seem to remember interviews with a number of people who said that the show felt a lot more mature than other things they were watching due to it's ongoing, episode by episode plot story developments.
it's a future where Japan won WWII
Jex
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Dear god man you should spoiler-tag that stuff, it might make people go blind.
This shot, for instance, takes up a single small panel in the corner of a page in the first chapter of the manga. Technically this is being "faithful" to the original material - but the detail is missing in the manga for space reasons, not artistic laziness. Without wishing to go crazily off-topic, the first chapter of Bokura ga Ita has some really nice panel layouts.
I'm not normally one for going "bu-bu-bu the manga was better!" because I normally don't read manga, but this is one of those cases where it really, truly was better.
Jex
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Well, I can't really say if the writing is really any better in Brotherhood but I certainly didn't really care for the finale endgame that developed in the original series. Despite that I still prefer the original series to Brotherhood just because the area's that it excels in are so important to my enjoyment of the work.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
hosannainexcelsis
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The sparse, barely existing backgrounds; the crude outlines of non-important characters - and the important characters aren't really much better except for being in color; the barely existing animation - this is sub-Shaft tier. At least Shaft usually has something to look at. Artland really dropped the ball here.
The manga isn't any different it's hideous more so then the anime somehow(yes unfortunately i watched some of the anime without realizing i read the manga, that's how forgettable the story is).
It's some really dumb shit if femmeworth read this dumbshit he/she would die.
Lovely complex episode 1was good after that it took a drop off, dropped it at around ep 7.
You know, I've kind of got a softspot for Fushigi Yuugi. Probably because it was pretty much the first thing I grabbed once I got my region free DVD player, since Pioneer (as it was back then) was just about to release the first set at the time. I got really annoyed when it turned out that the horrific cliffhanger than first boxset ended on was resolved in the next episode, only for the one afterwards to be a recap. Infact, that still irks me, now that I think about it.
Can't say I've watched it since it was first released, though. I'm happy to keep my glasses thoroughly rose-tinted!
Is Utena really an adaptation, though?
Dedication Through Light
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Muv Luv Alternative Total Eclipse 9
Weve seen Yuuya angry more times than happy, which hopefully changes as we go along, though with the people he constantly has to work with, Im not that hopeful. The show succeeds extensively in make me really dislike any of the characters that are not part of Argos. Scarlet Twins were starting too just based on the last episode and the beach one, but then this episode its like all is forgotten. Even worst the Russian or whatever commander lady and her subordinates are just awful personality, though I had a few favorites among them, Jacob is kind of cool.
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The in TSF communication among Top Gun, Stella, Chobi, and Macaroni were hilarious and probably my favorite part of the episode, besides Yuuya contributions to the battle. Real good and post battle moment
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Kind of cant wait for more, and the BETA's still are ugly, wish we get more TSF v TSF fights.
Weve seen Yuuya angry more times than happy, which hopefully changes as we go along, though with the people he constantly has to work with, Im not that hopeful. The show succeeds extensively in make me really dislike any of the characters that are not part of Argos. Scarlet Twins were starting too just based on the last episode and the beach one, but then this episode its like all is forgotten. Even worst the Russian or whatever commander lady and her subordinates are just awful personality, though I had a few favorites among them, Jacob is kind of cool.
Though unfortunately it was really sad when he died after being surrounded 
ugh, his comrades could have assisted him or something not just stand there
ugh, his comrades could have assisted him or something not just stand thereThe in TSF communication among Top Gun, Stella, Chobi, and Macaroni were hilarious and probably my favorite part of the episode, besides Yuuya contributions to the battle. Real good and post battle moment
Rail gun was awesome and definitely what I signed up for
Kind of cant wait for more, and the BETA's still are ugly, wish we get more TSF v TSF fights.
Now I'm going to turn around and whoever turned that fog machine on better turn it off otherwise you're all staying behind after school.
I think a lot of people have a soft spot for Fushigi Yuugi for very similar reasons; it was also one of the easier fansubs to get hold of on VHS, if I remember rightly. MIAKAAAAA! TAMAHOMEEEEE!!!! etc.
I can't really imagine Fushigi Yuugi ever being animated these days, let alone licensed for US release.
Heh. Not really, you're right. I just have Utena on the brain. It also has some truly non-existent animation in a couple of places
Replace Utena with Nana, then. Or, apparently, Magic Knight Rayearth, which I think is the only shoujo manga adaptation on the Sakuga Wiki - although I would say that after the first few episodes I think the production values aren't exactly great, and the show hasn't aged particularly well.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Maru, wan, fingersex, etc?
(I like that my copy of Chrome doesn't think of fingersex as a spelling mistake now. lol)
Okay, not useless, just very tedious. I can only handle so much dojikko per day.
You're not alone. I think a surprising number of us watch anime like this. I know I definitely do.
We agree on Misaki, Watashi, and Momo now. I like this trend.
Normally I'm not one to criticize the art of an anime, but my god that is truly awful. I used to draw mainly machines and cars and building designs, so this kind of lazy artwork is actually kind of offensive to me lol.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
19 minutes of Lan tripping all over herself? lol
Jex
Member
Whatever they think will sell some BD's, I guess.
PdotMichael
Banned
More like the production team already give no shit.
If this pic had some known directors name on it like hosoda , am sure gaf would be fabing vigorously, jex would write a 5k word essay on it and branduil would do the same but one about how it changed his life.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
I would argue that that's the best part
Lan is certainly the only reason I watch the show anymore, though I'm behind a couple episodes.
Jex
Member
I dunno, judging from their track record I think it just shows that they have no idea what they're doing!
Oh FFS. Akitaroh Daichi is plenty known in the thread - everyone loves to pile on Now and Then, Here and There - but was a big name in the 90s for directing Kodocha in particular.
It's shit. Obviously shit. Regardless of who directed it.
So the BD doesn't have that like... filter thing over the characters anymore? I quite liked that.
if it does, its faint...
I understand doing revisions, but thats to give one fluffer hair, fix animation mistakes, uncenor the censored... but what shaft did was a bit too far even for me.
hosannainexcelsis
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Don't let yourself get riled up by obvious bait. Anyone not intent on creating strawmen would see that being Mamoru Hosoda does not exempt you from criticism here - just consider the Spiral OP, or even Summer Wars.
Jex
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Yeah but stuff has to be clean up in a space, for safety reasons. It totally makes sense.
It's also the guy who is directing Poyo Poyo. Everyone loves that round, round cat.
I like to think of myself as a pretty big Daichi fan (to the point where I actually have all of that Japanese Kodocha DVDs - admittedly bought at a significant discount back when we had a good exchange rate!), but I think I only made it maybe two episodes into Bokura ga Ita, if that. I can't say it left anything of an impression on me, either.
Femmeworth
Banned
*eyebrow raises*
Oh that would be hilarious. If they don't touch up the visuals in every scene it's going to be (more of) a visual clusterfuck.
It'd convince me that Shaft has this compulsive need to animate even if it means just dicking around with stuff they've already done multiple times.
He's not the most consistent of directors, I think, even within the same franchise - I bought the first season of Jubei-chan based on how much I enjoyed The Counterattack of Siberian Yagyuu and it was significantly inferior.
I think the conclusion we can all draw is that no-one should waste any time on watching Bokura ga Ita, basically!
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