firehawk12
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Also, I suppose I'm obligated to say this by the animegaf code: the fencing girl is the best girl and so forth.
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Summer 2012 Anime |OT3| Where All the Waifus Are Made Up and the Points Don't Matter
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R_thanatos
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Well they are taking a lot of time with the first game..usually we get toons of info on their blogs , but here it's totally silent .. i've even forgotten that they had planned to do this game.
The oavs ( of the 2nd game ) are very well done..they made me play the game again recently..
it's a shame they let a lot of things from the game go but it's can't be helped.
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One of the few Vns where i have nothing to complain on any route ..
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Yeah, I wonder why they couldn't make it a series considering it's like perfect panderbait. Girls school lesbians doing girly and lesbian-y things together. That one of them happens to be a guy seems to be perfect for the otaku crowd. lol
Certainly it's not any worse than Hagure or Dakara or Campione or any of the battle harems this season.
SDBurton likes the closeted lesbian, for obvious :sdburton reasons I suppose.
No way!
Best girl.
SDBurton likes the closeted lesbian, for obvious :sdburton reasons I suppose.
She's my incredibly close 2nd. Incredibly close.
R_thanatos
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Well the whole cast is way too close for me .. so hard to choose when everything is intresting
So true.
Chet Rippo
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Qwaser of Stigmata II 5
They've been hyping her up for a while now without ever showing her outside of dream sequences. Now Sasha is ready to take on the, um, whatever it is. Super computer or something? Whatever.
I was wondering when they'd
Qwaser of K-ON!
bring back Mafuyu into the story.
This little bit at the end reminds me how the OPs from the first season were so much better than the on in this season.
Dedication Through Light
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Phi Brain 2 ep 24
Pretty good episode that really makes me feel that the ending will be really focused and stunning. The
puzzle seems compelling just on name alone and based on how Freecell went about it, I have high hopes. Liked the Orpheus Order insignia and Freecell's smiling. Oh the music when
was extremely dramatic and oddly, quite fitting. The soundtrack is good and I feel bad for not listening to most of the episodes this season without my headset :/
Aw nice Kaito and Freecell
The part immediately preceding was mindblowing and visually stunning to me.
Pretty good episode that really makes me feel that the ending will be really focused and stunning. The
Infinite
Hoist was kicked out
Aw nice Kaito and Freecell
hugged, sweet
I singled out episode three in my example but ,yeah, it really happens in every episode. For the last episode, even to start with Oreki is looking at his list of directions he really only mentions the bridge and when he gets there and see's the construction, which apparently shouldn't be there, you can pretty much tell it will have some involvement in the mystery so that was something I was expecting the show to return to as well.
Other mystery shows like Umineko would sometimes do this. I remember one scene where Natsuhi places a can of tuna or something on a table in Krauss's study and the camera focuses right in on it. My immediate reaction was "the camera is telling me that this is important. There is only the can of tuna on the table, so note any changes that may happen later."
I preferred it when it was more subtle, such as having characters talking in the lounge and you can see the clock in the background but off to the side and not center frame, again, so it's not too obvious. Later when the crime or murder or whatever happens and the topic of time or who was doing what comes up, even if you didn't notice it, that clue or detail of the time on the clock was always present in the background.
Well, I still think Oreki could have solved the mysteries without educated guesses being right and still becoming smug as a result. I suppose the mysteries are ultimately a foundation to build on the character traits and development though as your point does go in line with the student film arc. Regarding the solution to that mystery, Irisu wasn't so much looking for Oreki to
actually "solve" the case or try and think of what Houngo was trying to write but to come up with more of a solution that seemed plausible given the clues actually present.
The story actually returns to this point in episode 19 where Oreki says to Chitanda that you can come with a plausible solution to any mystery really. The show does seem consciously aware of this fact as the solution to that mystery is
somewhat played for laughs as it's shown that Oreki was exactly right
R_thanatos
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JINRUI - 04
Again nice episode..some good moments .. EP3 was better no doubt about it ..but this was enjoyable
Her voice remind me of someone , but i can't remember who
Again nice episode..some good moments .. EP3 was better no doubt about it ..but this was enjoyable
firehawk12
Subete no aware
lol
If only this was a series. There could be another series of waifu wars.
Of course, the secret best girl is actually
the main character
Well, 19 also ties into the film arc in that it shows him not taking his abilities too seriously. I mean, the film arc has him essentially reject the ideas of three other people only for him to come to the conclusion that his solution - which is itself a hack - is the right one. The truth was that his sister used Irisu to get to Oreki, both to get him to realize his creative and deductive potential but the problems that can come with all of that.
I think the pool arc helps address that side of him, culminating of course with his change in the festival arc, so that solving mysteries isn't something that he simply sees as a game. It's why I feel like the helicopter mystery fit perfectly with the show at that point in its run anyway.
I think the pool arc helps address that side of him, culminating of course with his change in the festival arc, so that solving mysteries isn't something that he simply sees as a game. It's why I feel like the helicopter mystery fit perfectly with the show at that point in its run anyway.
Probably the biggest thing is that we don't get to see his process. And I don't know about you, but in the last decade, I must have seen hundreds if not thousands of hours of procedurals. You just don't get the montage that spells everything out for you - even the BBC Sherlock and the CBS Elementary (and the Guy Ritchie films and House, if you want take the modern Holmes thing all the way) can't resist explaining how their title characters work. I think it's fine that we don't get a montage with flying words or flashy symbols or whatever to show the gears turning in Oreki's head - in this case, the process isn't the most important thing about the show - it's the human being engaged in that process.
But of course, I still see Hyouka as a human drama and a character study, so I see everything in the show working toward that more than anything else. lol
R_thanatos
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Nice joke ..
IT'S A JOKE? RIGHT?
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JINRUI - 05
Wait that means that she is usually wearing plot armor , since she lives with +5 fairy everyday .
This anime is simple , logical , yet i get the feelign they try o be intentionnaly confusing at times .
Also this is clearly not a chronological order for each stories
At EP 2
the dude said that she cut her hair for destroying a monument
the MC only get to meet the dude and know the existance of said monument
other gal with cool voice is working for updating said monument
i hope it won't be too complicated next episode
firehawk12
Subete no aware
R_thanatos
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that's why i said that elders can do no wrong , so it's expected that she is the "best"
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Qwaser of Stigmata II looks like an instant classic.
Dedication Through Light
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Its awful post plot resolution, not even Sasha was enough to keep me from constantly flinching from each subsequent episode :/
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Accel World 17
wut. No way you are getting
with that peculiar logic, Cartman-kun.
This show's soundtrack is pretty fucking awesome by the way.
Well Cyan Pile sure is a stupid lame scrub.
What he did would be akin to claiming you are gonna Tiger Shot spam your opponent to catch him with the DP. Sure, he is gonna find out anyway, but you lose whatever surprise factor you had by gloating about your strategy.
Incarnation isn't about desire. It's a wish.
wut. No way you are getting
NTR'd
This show's soundtrack is pretty fucking awesome by the way.
firehawk12
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Chet Rippo
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The Qwaser series is all class.
Ultimadrago
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Hidamari Sketch x356 4.1
Miyako-centered half episode?
Yes please.
In this episode, she plays with a cute fat cat and earns her "paws". I believe they already existed for her beforehand, but this is the first episode where I'm seeing it directly relate to her. She takes baths with it, eats with it and plays with it.
The direction in the start of episode was fairly average, but the interactions Miyako has with the gang regarding the feline brought frequent smiles to my face.
The visuals and direction take a wonderful turn however when
. The transition into the scene is smooth and the tone works in tandem with the visuals (as posted above). It was different from about any scene I've seen in another Hidamari Sketch episode and that difference pays off. The mood is eventually off-set by "Miyako being Miyako" again and it's quite a charming end to the whole episode without having things stay somber.
I enjoyed this half-episode! The adorable cat stole Miyako's heart fair and square...
*sniffle*
Miyako-centered half episode?
Yes please.
In this episode, she plays with a cute fat cat and earns her "paws". I believe they already existed for her beforehand, but this is the first episode where I'm seeing it directly relate to her. She takes baths with it, eats with it and plays with it.
The direction in the start of episode was fairly average, but the interactions Miyako has with the gang regarding the feline brought frequent smiles to my face.
Miyako is great. What? I've said that already? Well, prepare for me to say it more!
The visuals and direction take a wonderful turn however when
the cat is gone once Miyako awakens
I enjoyed this half-episode! The adorable cat stole Miyako's heart fair and square...
*sniffle*
It's not fair!
Something else I might as well mention: stats after the first round of Saimoe.
Top Series by remaining character count
1) Saki (15)
2) The Idolmaster (8)
3) K-On!, Working! (tie, 4)
4) Boku Wa Tomodachi Ga Sukunai, Fate/Zero, Nisemonogatari, Strike Witches (tie, 3)
Top Voice Actresses by remaining character count
1) Rie Kugimiya (9)
2) Kana Hanazawa, Yoko Hikasa, Kaori Ishihara, Kanae Itou, Hisako Kanemoto, Nao Toyama (tie, 3)
Top Five Vote Totals
1) Yuu Matsumi @ Saki (639)
2) Sanya V. Litvyak @ Strike Witches (517)
3) Yumi Kajiki @ Saki (460)
4) Kurisu Makise @ Steins;Gate (439)
5) Toki Onjouji @ Saki (417)
Highest Losing Vote Total: Erio Touwa (406)
Lowest Winning Vote Total: Nazuna Takanashi (164)
Top Series by remaining character count
1) Saki (15)
2) The Idolmaster (8)
3) K-On!, Working! (tie, 4)
4) Boku Wa Tomodachi Ga Sukunai, Fate/Zero, Nisemonogatari, Strike Witches (tie, 3)
Top Voice Actresses by remaining character count
1) Rie Kugimiya (9)
2) Kana Hanazawa, Yoko Hikasa, Kaori Ishihara, Kanae Itou, Hisako Kanemoto, Nao Toyama (tie, 3)
Top Five Vote Totals
1) Yuu Matsumi @ Saki (639)
2) Sanya V. Litvyak @ Strike Witches (517)
3) Yumi Kajiki @ Saki (460)
4) Kurisu Makise @ Steins;Gate (439)
5) Toki Onjouji @ Saki (417)
Highest Losing Vote Total: Erio Touwa (406)
Lowest Winning Vote Total: Nazuna Takanashi (164)
hosannainexcelsis
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Eh, I'm not sure how you could say that, particularly when immediately below you post screenshots that use a visual style quite distinct from the rest of the series. I certainly felt that Shin Oonuma's direction on this was more unusual than a typical episode.
Slowpoke on the Maou Yuusha animu adaptation.
I knew it was probably going to get a animu eventually. They should have gone with one of the mango's artstyles but everything else looks gorgeous so far, especially the backgrounds.
I am also predicting that it will have the most porn created from it the season it airs just like SAO.
I knew it was probably going to get a animu eventually. They should have gone with one of the mango's artstyles but everything else looks gorgeous so far, especially the backgrounds.
I am also predicting that it will have the most porn created from it the season it airs just like SAO.
Ultimadrago
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I actually meant to direct that comment more towards the first stretch of the half episode which I didn't find had much going for it in terms of uniqueness to the series.
I meant to point out the screenshots I posted under them separately, but...somehow forgot before I posted! I will promptly fix that.
It's a brief space, but was a scene indeed different to the common episode and well-done at that.
Unfortunately for us, this episode had no lesbian feminists but a sheltered High Priestess who is forced to put the reputation of her father and her lover over her own desires.
Yeah, that's true in regards to the spoiler. Tomoe is so diabolical haha
Well, I don't think we need to see the entirety of his process either. As you say it's about the characters and honestly my thought process was more in line with those who, since the beginning of the show, felt the character interactions would be the focus rather than the mysteries themselves, very much how K-On! approached the relation between the girls and music. Some episodes such as the end of the cultural festival arc though, I felt Oreki did a good good job in outlining how he came to the conclusions he did there.
I personally don't like it sometimes when shows explain things too much as it feels like they don't trust the audience or are talking down to them or perhaps aren't even confident in their own writing skills.
To switch gears a little bit I watched the film Inception and I feel like it over explains things so I find it quite surprising when many people still ask questions such as "Why does the van fall so slowly?". I think to myself "Really? They explain that about five times in five different ways in the movie. My question would be how can you not understand what's going on there?"
I honestly haven't really seen any of the other shows you listed yet. Much like Irisu herself, I never really had any hate for mystery but was never really interested in it at the same time. Watching shows such as Umineko, Gosick and now Hyouka which deal with mysteries in their own ways I might carry on and look into these shows or perhaps older famous works such as dealing with Sherlock Holmes that I've never read before.
I did see two or three episodes of CSI though and I didn't really like how that show handled the confession scene. The CSI people would gather their evidence before the hour was up and say to the suspect that they possessed it but didn't seem to present it to them. The suspect would say "You got me" and detail their life story of how they committed the crime. Even back in high school when a teacher would directly see a student doing something they shouldn't be doing they would still deny it, sometimes even after getting "sentenced" with detention. The idea then that all these criminals would just so loosely confess felt so very "TV" to me in that the show had to meet its hour time limit requirement, sort of like how DNA results would also seem to get processed so quickly.
Inception>Paprika
Natsuyuki Rendezvous 6
It just occurred to me in the middle of the episode that all of these major developments of the relationship are happening
Shimao is truly the biggest asshole of the entire season.
It just occurred to me in the middle of the episode that all of these major developments of the relationship are happening
while Hazuki is still trapped away in fairy tale land unaware of all the good shit going on around him.
hosannainexcelsis
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Yeah, I would consider this kind of washed-out color scheme an Oonuma trademark - I've seen it in C3 as well as the episode of Level E he storyboarded, in which it was especially effective.
As I stated in my impressions, there's another neat visual touch in the episode that I liked:
The use of Japanese characters as almost physical objects like this is also a creative technique that's not typically seen in Hidamari, and it vividly visualized the aural unease that the snoring created for Hiro.
I don't mean to be too particular here, but since I watched this recently it's fresh on my mind.
goes without saying really.
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Very impressive, per usual. The slow pace brings out a lot of opportunities for great characterisation. More than anything, I'm glad they made this into an anime instead of the obvious choice of a drama. It's just a nice bit of variety in a stagnant and incredibly derivative medium.
Also: hot.
"AfterlifeGAF: My widow wife is falling for a younger and healthier kid. What do I do?"
Even the sweet tender moments have to be poignantly bitter. Drive that dagger into my heart, you filthy manchild of a ghost.
Very impressive, per usual. The slow pace brings out a lot of opportunities for great characterisation. More than anything, I'm glad they made this into an anime instead of the obvious choice of a drama. It's just a nice bit of variety in a stagnant and incredibly derivative medium.
Also: hot.
I get the impression he would be a Girl-GAF regular.
"AfterlifeGAF: My widow wife is falling for a younger and healthier kid. What do I do?
"hosannainexcelsis
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In Hyouka's case, I don't feel it's KyoAni not trusting the audience so much as them wanting to show off. In direction, animation, art - really all aspects of the production I get the feeling sometimes that they're saying, "We know what we're doing and we're going to make sure you know that we know." Which I can't really blame them for.
I haven't seen Inception, but this reminds me that my brother after seeing Paprika commented to me that Kon's film was more what he was looking for out of Nolan's - where the distinction between dream and reality becomes impossible to discern. Of course, he also thinks Howl's is better than Spirited Away, so perhaps he is simply fond of messy narratives.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Man, men fucking suck. Yet again. lol
Avengers > Dark Knight Rises?
The culture festival is probably the only time that the show approached "full Sherlock" (you even had "Watson" around to act shocked at the revelations) in terms of having Oreki confront the "villain" and present his evidence. It's fitting of course, because it's the turning point for the character.
The thing with all those shows, whether it's the cop show, the lawyer show, or the Law and Order hybrid, is that they want to tell these perfectly encapsulated stories that have perfect narrative closure. It becomes really easy to write because you're basically following a formula to crap out weird ways people can be killed and motivations for those murders. For the audience, they're allowed to just turn their brain off and not think about anything that they're watching, because they know they're going to get the five-act/Freytag's triangle structure that has been ingrained into them since childhood.
I will say, with this generation of kids being raised on serialized material - Harry Potter, for one - I wonder if that will change and the idea that everything has to be wrapped up neatly at the end of an "episode" (or book) will become an outmoded concept.
I say that I watch a lot of these shows for the characters, House in particular, but for the most part even the characters aren't all that interesting. They're just good background fodder. lol
I main difference is that Paprika leans on the "reality turns into a dream" side, which is good for ridiculous visuals, while Inception leans on the "dream turns into reality" side, which is good for live action.
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Ultimadrago
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Ha! I had some chuckles with that visual gag.
Poor Hiro haunted by all that loud snoring.
On your notes with the wash-out effect, I can agree that it was on the heavy side.
I didn't find myself minding it too much while watching, but a more subtle use most definitely wouldn't have hurt.
hosannainexcelsis
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Sounds potentially bad.
Have any of his live-action stuff been good? I wouldn't know, but I certainly haven't gotten that impression.
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