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Summer 2013 Anime |10th Dimensional OT| the first ignoble truth: all of life is anime
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Crash Station
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I think the gif looks good, but am I the only one that's starting to see a lot of these well-animated explosions as "generic"? They're just all starting to look the same to me.
I don't really watch that many anime with explosions. It sounds like you're more talking about art direction, though.
dakkumauji
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All kinds of hype to actually watch this.
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It's true. Not only do they all kinda look the same, but sometimes I think that making an action scene too complicated just to show off more "awesome" animation in a scene makes it exhausting and often just hard to follow. The opening scene in the Star Driver movie has amazing animation quality, but it felt pretty tiresome to watch and there was never any context or momentum to build excitement in the fights. It was literally just animation spam.
Holy shit I just noticed that. now I cant unsee it
Well that assertion is nonsense.
But seeing as both shows are over, there's not currently much to discuss.
Japan is a super crazy place. 100%!
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I think you've watched shows like Bleach for so long that you don't know what good animation looks like anymore
Theres only one fight in the entirety of Bleach that has great animation and it ends in like 2 mins.
Yeah I guess so. Its good but nothing special imo.
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It seems you guys are talking about the explosions (?) which makes it even more bizarre. I don't see great animation as having lots of pretty explosions and beams. In fights I like it when there is fluidity in the combat. The thing that makes the End of Evangelion fight so special imo. That was fantastic animation.
Nice! another Atelier artbook is out?
Nah you're not. It is a rather standard explosion. Its well animated though.
I dub this phenomenon :imaishi.
hosannainexcelsis
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There's not really that much you can do with explosions to make them stand out as unique, honestly. At least there's no examples that come to mind.
Well, while he's certainly guilty of it as well, I was talking to Hosanna on IRC earlier about what I felt was a rather unfortunate thing plaguing BONES lately, and it's that Muraki's action storyboards have gotten more and more needlessly complex ever since he directed Prototype in Halo Legends. The stuff in the E7 movie, E7AO, and the Star Driver movie are really complete extravagance which serves only to show off "look what we can do" from the animators instead of actually having pacing and momentum in creating an exciting action sequence. It's pretty disappointing from a direction point of view I think.
dakkumauji
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Not translated.
I like when they spread out into unique formations, like in EVA when they turn into crosses. Its kind of unexpected at first.
Yeah I enjoyed those certainly.
That whole show did things a bit different and it was refreshing (and unsettling)
He's uniquely bad.
Freaking Microsoft ruins everything.
That goes without saying.
Theonik
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Animation spam sounds like something 7th would eat.
Speaking of action animation, for those of you who dropped or aren't watching Attack on Titan, the latest episode had some pretty good stuff. Spoilers, obviously.
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I'm not really sure why I dont like Attack on Titan's visuals. It might be the use of color in it. It looks drab to me for some reason.
Well, it's not very consistent.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Godly animation:
Not if they're CGI mechs.
It was a good episode.
hosannainexcelsis
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Well, Sword of the Stranger has the best action animation... ever, probably.
That's as much due to Masahiro Ando's direction giving guidence and flow to the action as to the work of the many skilled animators (including Muraki!) on the film.
amishpriest99
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I'm just getting caught up with Majestic Prince, though still only on episode 8 or so. Probably the best Hirai's work has looked aside from Infinite Ryvius, but that's not saying a whole lot.
The mechs will be CGI, the potatoes flash and the humans hand drawn. It's all mise-en-scène cos all the different animation styles reflect something about something.
Sounds like a SHAFT show.
Theonik
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Ojamajo Doremi 50
It's a shame things had to turn out this way too.
Well shit went real pretty quick. I bet
Preview'd
Onpu will use her magic to wipe everyone's memories resulting in her getting hurt pretty bad. Queen will end up still saving them but it probably comes at the expense of them losing their Witch status and R[iu]ka staying as magical frogs though.
If it was shaft they'd also do transitions in powerpoint.
Jex
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[Attack on Titan] - 21
The amount of filler in even a pretty good episode of this series is impressive. Leaving aside the excellent first half, for a moment, the majority of the opening of the episode is devoted to flashbacks and pointless discussion of what the flashbacks contained. We didn't get to the cliffhanger of episode 20 for seven minutes. Admittedly part of that was the OP, but still. Then there was about two more minutes of wasted time spread throughout the episode to pad it out some more. I know this has been the case for months but it still saddens me.
The amount of filler in even a pretty good episode of this series is impressive. Leaving aside the excellent first half, for a moment, the majority of the opening of the episode is devoted to flashbacks and pointless discussion of what the flashbacks contained. We didn't get to the cliffhanger of episode 20 for seven minutes. Admittedly part of that was the OP, but still. Then there was about two more minutes of wasted time spread throughout the episode to pad it out some more. I know this has been the case for months but it still saddens me.
Hmm, possibly. I can't think of a lot that is in the running with it, off the top of my head, outside of stuff like Cowboy Bebop the movie. End of Evangelion has Iso's Asuka fight, which might be the best animated action scene ever, but it's not primarily an action movie.
Jex
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Should have watched the Blue Exorcist movie instead.
I'll get around to it soon enough. At the moment I'm busy with Yamato 2199 at the moment. Which, I'm pleased to say, is one of the best sci-fi anime in years.
I still think the rushed production schedule affected the writing and direction as much as the animation. Early on in the series, there was quite a bit of original material to fill in the gaps, and they didn't just adapt the manga in a linear manner, but after the first few episodes, it's been pretty much a straight adaptation with really slow pacing and huge recaps at the beginning of every episode.
Well, thats true. It occasionally looks alright, even pretty good. But mostly just a rather unpleasing pallette of colors and animation.
I thought it was over because nobody is discussing it at all.
Jex
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I know there's not really much they could do about it at this point and it is what it is. Unfortunately.
I believe they finished the scripts before it started airing though. It was probably written knowing that they would only be adapting a certain number of chapters in 25 episodes. Don't forget, Jojo did the same thing with regards to being cheap with recaps and dragging scenes on. Same series writer!
I'm sure they did, but that doesn't necessarily mean the script wasn't rushed. If you only have, say, 3 months to finish the scripts instead of 6, that's going to affect the quality even if you finish them all before the show starts airing.
Speaking of train wrecks, I don't understand why some people won't shut up with the manga hints in the official thread.
No self control.
It's not like it's an ambiguous rule. It's very clear what isn't allowed, but people keep on trying to push the limits anyway.
hosannainexcelsis
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Wolf's Rain 8-10
It's not hard to tell when Keiko Nobumoto herself wrote an episode script and when she didn't. Not that the other scripts are bad, but Nobumoto always brings an extra layer of poetry to her writing that makes it enjoyable purely for its language. Sato and Okamura can't match that.
It's not hard to tell when Keiko Nobumoto herself wrote an episode script and when she didn't. Not that the other scripts are bad, but Nobumoto always brings an extra layer of poetry to her writing that makes it enjoyable purely for its language. Sato and Okamura can't match that.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I really don't like the mech fights these days. Just a bunch of crazy beams and explosions (rebuild series does this sadly) not enough actual fighting.
Pretty much. Ive never seen a forum where people asked for a self ban to control their forum usage either. Get some self control and just stay logged out if its necessary.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Ooooh I want that Atelier book!
I knew you would notice it soon enough heehee.
Atelier is like a Zel magnet.
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