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Summer 2013 Anime |10th Dimensional OT| the first ignoble truth: all of life is anime
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Dammit DTL, Can't hold my laugh lol
I fancy your Oonuma hate, Watamote surprisingly looks good though.
I fancy your Oonuma hate, Watamote surprisingly looks good though.
nintendoman58
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Yeah. I'll be honest, if Nia was around from the beginning, I'd have tolerated her. But the fact that she came in the episode right after
Kamina's death felt like a mom replacing a broken SNES with a Sega Genesis.
PorcellainThrill
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firehawk12
Subete no aware
Hah, I suppose it could be one of those too!
Fixed.
Ojamajo Doremi 6
This was probably my favorite episode so far.
I kind of feel bad for that girl, but still, lying about dead/missing parents is not cool. Ever. Still, have to admire how she got that kid to believe that her grandmother was a carrot. Even if the kid has to be stupid as hell to actually believe it.
Is Doremi ever going to learn how to fly that broom, or is this gonna be a running joke? She may wanna try threatening it like Aiko did.
This was probably my favorite episode so far.
I kind of feel bad for that girl, but still, lying about dead/missing parents is not cool. Ever. Still, have to admire how she got that kid to believe that her grandmother was a carrot. Even if the kid has to be stupid as hell to actually believe it.
Is Doremi ever going to learn how to fly that broom, or is this gonna be a running joke? She may wanna try threatening it like Aiko did.
I hate the hate to "Mary/Gary Stu" archetype, for me they just one of archetype that can be used good or badly. That its.. If the character bring good for the show its shouldn't matter if she too without flaw or not. Everything can used properly in theory. And its not illegal by all means to use character as plot device, especially superhero cliche like TTGL.
nintendoman58
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Perhaps some explaining is in order.
I think Nia is a good character because the writers knew what to do with her. After
her father died at the hands of her boyfriend's car keys, there wasn't much else to do with her other than make her the standard damsel in distress. So they go ahead and make her the villain to avoid that cliche (to an extent anyway). After going back to normal, the writers probably felt that she would have to go for the show to have a stronger ending. Which was the right move.
So yeah, maybe she was a plot device, but at least she was a well done plot device.
I'm relatively sure that's the intent behind her introduction there, etc.
Nah, Mary Sue is an inherently derogatory term, it's an archetype that contains a number of different tropes that interact to form a repulsively "perfect" character.
My problem with her is that she's always written in such a way to be whatever Simon needs at that moment, no matter how inorganic the writing has to be for it to work. She's never anything more than Simon's convenient character development accessory.
chickdigger802
Banned
or play the fan translation which is almost guaranteed to have more effort than the xseed one lol.
R_thanatos
Member
It's NISA that is handling that one
nintendoman58
Member
Eh, she is what she is. It's not like she's best girl or anything. That title belongs to Yoko.
I'm not really a fan of any of the female characters in GL, but I guess that's not surprising in that kind of show.
nintendoman58
Member
Well it is about a MAN'S spirit after all!
kitkat
Yeah I was kinda wondering how this could happen also. Especially since he marathoned Max Heart.
So youre saying its really good?
This show gets soooo good.
Inaban is just the best.
Not quite!
The fanart for this movie is so epic. I think it might become one of my favorite movies.
im@s as melty. Good enough for me.
Isn't that what I said? Feels like it.
I feel like the writers sort of didn't know what to do with her, hence
that stupid ass evaporation post marriage.
It's hard not to call Nia that, though, when the girl has cloud colored hair and blue eyes with red crosses in it and she is the only person capable of freeing Simon from
his Kamina's death induced funk
the physical avatar of the Spiral Race
that stupid post-wedding evaporation bullshit.
I liked Nia mostly because Simon liked her. That said, her character could have benefited a very great deal from interacting with people who weren't Simon and having relationships with characters who weren't Simon. Which she only sort of does. Everyone on Team Dai Gurren loves her, but it would've been nice to see her earn that love a little more personally. They kinda worked that with Yoko, but that's about it. Seeing her interact with Yoko more would've been really nice.
I definitely agree with this as well. I appreciate that she sort of
fills Kamina's shoes as the reason why Simon fights,
Turn A Gundam 5
Still having a hard time guessing just which side Loran is on, but coming into contact with a Gundam has essentially made clear just how his personality goes (you know, a bright eyed idealistic youth who hates war and wishes it would stop and is beloved by all he comes in contact with. Meat and Taters and all.). That said, I'm worried Sochie's character is gonna take a nose dive with this quest for revenge. Because unless your name is Edmond Dantes the writer tends to have no idea how to use a quest for revenge to improve your character.
How does Harry Ord keep those uh, Sun Glasses on?
Finally watched the entire stream of the USP thing; Otsuka is a boss. The key points he mentioned for Kill la Kill were pretty much perfect:
SCRIPT (he talked about how it's Shinkansen as fuck and so ambitious that the staff was worried if they were going to be able to pull it off but they ultimately decided to keep it the way it was because you just don't cut down greatness; "feels like a movie", he said)
DIRECTION/STORYBOARD (Imaishi-power)
SAKUGA/ANIMATION (they want the visual to have a genga-man feel; Sushio and friends are bleeding into the show so the visuals don't lose to the script)
Meanwhile, on Yamakan-land...
SCRIPT (he talked about how it's Shinkansen as fuck and so ambitious that the staff was worried if they were going to be able to pull it off but they ultimately decided to keep it the way it was because you just don't cut down greatness; "feels like a movie", he said)
DIRECTION/STORYBOARD (Imaishi-power)
SAKUGA/ANIMATION (they want the visual to have a genga-man feel; Sushio and friends are bleeding into the show so the visuals don't lose to the script)
Meanwhile, on Yamakan-land...
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Already answered for me. ;P
NISA has been good recently, but I imagine you might be right in terms of flavor vs. literal.
ZachDeKoromaru
Banned
I may have missed it if you posted it, but Yuno losing to Yozora (let alone anyone) SMFH.
Key points of Yamakan's new show:
-All the VAs are new to the industry
-COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM OTHER IDOL SHOWS, I SWEAR
-Yamakan is a grown-up man now
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Let's go down the list.
1st 166 Sena Kashiwazaki @ Boku Wa Tomodachi Ga Sukunai YES
2nd 143 Sanae Dekomori @ Chuunibyou Demo Koi Ga Shitai! ...acceptable
3rd 141 Himawari Shinomiya @ Vividred Operation ...haven't watched this one
4th 125 Kuroko Shirai @ A Certain Magical Index ... or this one.
5th 121 Aoi Futaba @ Vividred Operation see #3
6th 118 Rika Shiguma @ Boku Wa Tomodachi Ga Sukunai I'm good with this.
7th 99 Nagi Sanzenin @ Hayate The Combat Butler Of all the HnG girls, Nagi?
7th 99 Hiro @ Hidamari Sketch ...haven't watched this one
9th 89 Maria Takayama @ Boku Wa Tomodachi Ga Sukunai NO
10th 79 Hibiki Ganaha @ The Idolmaster dat fang
11th 76 Mitsuhide Akechi @ Oda Nobuna no Yabou ...haven't watched this one
12th 72 Sera Eguchi @ Saki ... I suppose.
13th 69 Kurimu Sakurano @ Seitokai No Ichizon ...haven't watched this one
14th 68 Kukuru Anrakutei @ Joshiraku ... I suppose.
What is this? Nia hate!?
I don't even...
Also, nintendoman58, your analogies are bizarre! Is the Mega-Drive one supposed to be negative one? Poor form...
I don't even...
Yes, I was disappointed with what they did with her in the final arc, but even so, I really liked her. Probably my favorite character, all things considered.
Also, nintendoman58, your analogies are bizarre! Is the Mega-Drive one supposed to be negative one? Poor form...
ZachDeKoromaru
Banned
You should remedy this ASAP.
R_thanatos
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High school dxd new - 04
Superb episode .. i have nothing to add , they nailed a perfect balance of PLOT , plot , Fanservice and setting up the final stage ... i'm impressed .
So impressed that i might just re-read vol 3 for the fun factor.
So deep i'm movedi can't wait to see Azazel come and shake that train of thought
Superb episode .. i have nothing to add , they nailed a perfect balance of PLOT , plot , Fanservice and setting up the final stage ... i'm impressed .
So impressed that i might just re-read vol 3 for the fun factor.
RurouniZel
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Maybe, but I'm backlogged as it is. >>
That never even occurred to me.
Time of EVE 2
Really enjoying this show so far. The weird switching to FPV and the CG aren't that swell, but it is still a good show, doing a good job of examining the ethics of android servitude and the overall humanity of robots. Which is nice, since Casshern Sins, the other robot show I'm watching, just kind of assumes that machines have souls, but this show sorta feels that question out. Casshern just goes with it for its more spiritual themes.
In either case, it really is interesting to see the two protagonists interact with machines in the Time of Eve cafe and learn how to get on with them. I'm expecting the crazy twist to be
that the cafe owner is herself an android, and thus one who has found the 0th Law.
chickdigger802
Banned
i mean outside of the translation, quite a bit of effort was put into englishing up all the written stuff in the world and in some cutscenes and what not. One of the more impressive rom hackeries i've seen.
She was okay for that very last fight in Lagann Hen, though. Adult Nia was better for me I think because I'm a sucker for Mecha Dudes rescuing their girl from Space Demons and all.
nintendoman58
Member
It's negative at first, considering what just happened. If you were a kid and your beloved SNES broke, and you got a Genesis the next day and your Mom tells you you can't have your SNES back, would you really be happy at first?
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
TTGL went downhill after the
Nia sucked for the whole show though.
time skip.
R_thanatos
Member
I don't think NIA is that bad of a character ... she is not that great either so i don't really get the hate. i think the character didn't do anything worthy of being in a bad spot ..
For me the cast of TTGL is 100% awesome.
For me the cast of TTGL is 100% awesome.
TTGL went downhill after I got my first look at the mecha designs.
RurouniZel
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Highly unlikely.
Like Rihoko in Amagami. Supposedly she's fat but she totally isnt.
Rozen Maiden is pretty good. Just has some derp issues and perhaps a slight overuse of the suffix "desu".
Two things the new series has fixed. So, win-win?
I dunno if I use the term correctly or not most people doesn't anyway.. I'm just saying its like people shouldn't write this kind of character or adore it.
I don't even like Nia that much but the criticism to her character are representing my dislike to these type of complaint. Bring new dynamic and energy, different from other, got trashed with Mary Sue talk.. man.
I love some of "Too Perfect" character like Jotaro Kujo and Akagi Shigeru, probably my favorite character in any media.. They're too "awesome" and never lose.. I'm not find them offensive maybe because I want my fiction character to being aspiring even if its not realistic by any means.
Well writen and developed character from Writer 101 is great if anyone can create it, but character that became awesome with just basic and simple trait is fine too.. not everyone can create likable character just because the character handsome and awesome, the one that got public approval must've some charm that make it success. No need to classifying and shaming it to specific term.
I think the most offensive of Gary Stu for me is the one that representing an ideal that pushed to the throat of audience like a certain protag that just recently got talked again in this thread u-know-who-with-black-coat like jesus spreading the gospel... ugh. And written with convoluted way.
Character like Nia for me just lacking development , but calling her Mary Shu just because her basic strait kinda not suit me.. call her plot device or even bad character actually fine for me.
TLDR : I Hate the mindset that implying my liking to Chirico Cuvie are less legit than liking Renton.
Neptunia 1-3
I don't know what I expected, but there's a reason I waited until this reached three episodes before I gave it a shot. I probably expected this to be either totally awesome (because of David Productions) or completely aweful (because of the source material) - turn's out it is neither. It's not even mediocre, either. It just kinda exists. Maybe David Productions and Idea Factory cancel each other out, leaving just a void. My only takeaway after an hour is that the show apparently exists. So yeah, I'm done here.
Symphogear something or other G: Ridiculous long subtitle 1-4
It's more Symphogear. Obviously with a much higher budget now, and with some massive character upgrades - especially in the chest area. It's still dumb as fuck and completely terrible of course, but holy shit is it fun. It also out-kawamoris everything Kawamori has done since Macross Plus in every single way. Definitely the trainwreck of the season, but also undoubtedly the best action show of the season. By far. The amount of hype and pathos is off the charts.
I just hope ep 4 wasn't a 25 minute death flag, because it sure as hell felt like one. But considering how heavy handed the show is, it's hard to tell.
I don't know what I expected, but there's a reason I waited until this reached three episodes before I gave it a shot. I probably expected this to be either totally awesome (because of David Productions) or completely aweful (because of the source material) - turn's out it is neither. It's not even mediocre, either. It just kinda exists. Maybe David Productions and Idea Factory cancel each other out, leaving just a void. My only takeaway after an hour is that the show apparently exists. So yeah, I'm done here.
Symphogear something or other G: Ridiculous long subtitle 1-4
It's more Symphogear. Obviously with a much higher budget now, and with some massive character upgrades - especially in the chest area. It's still dumb as fuck and completely terrible of course, but holy shit is it fun. It also out-kawamoris everything Kawamori has done since Macross Plus in every single way. Definitely the trainwreck of the season, but also undoubtedly the best action show of the season. By far. The amount of hype and pathos is off the charts.
I just hope ep 4 wasn't a 25 minute death flag, because it sure as hell felt like one. But considering how heavy handed the show is, it's hard to tell.
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