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[Coonce]

mweep X 25

 

[Vulcano's assistant]

Big bucks coming in. The Saudi princes are watching.

 

[Kodaman]

Oh the memories...

 

[ShironRedshift]

It's just getting caught up in the name. The real distinction it's basically making is not using WW which breaks the game wide open.

That's not really true though, since Any% (No Wrong Warp) is it's own separate category, that many focuses on using a different major glitch known as Reverse Bottle Adventure to get through the run that uses a glitch to turn your Bottle into other items you need. Then I believe there's also Any% No WW/RBA, which is using neither of those major glitches but using minor ones like superslides and bomb hovering... OoT speedrunning is weird, basically.

 

[petethepanda]

weeehh

 

[jnWake]

Lol I love how he uses the shield sound to accompany the background music.

 

[urge26]

I'm having pepsiman withdrawl.... the lore, the theme song, the cutscenes.... seriously I had no idea this game excited and being able to watch that run in it's entirety was legendary.

 

[Brashnir]

even speedruns of 3D Zelda are slow and boring....

 

[Death Metalist]

I'm having pepsiman withdrawl.... the lore, the theme song, the cutscenes.... seriously I had no idea this game excited and being able to watch that run in it's entirety was legendary.

I wish they played the opening, that's the only negative thing about the run. What a great nostalgic run though, I'm glad Mike Butters is on twitter. Didn't even know about that.

 

[Brashnir]

The Legend of Zelda: Here, Watch Some Long Overdone Animations.. Of Time.

 

[jnWake]

It's funny that they have to repeat "This is not a glitch" all the time. Should give the category a name that doesn't require them to justify all the tricks they do haha.

 

[urge26]

I wish they played the opening, that's the only negative thing about the run. What a great nostalgic run though, I'm glad Mike Butters is on twitter. Didn't even know about that.

just noticed I typed excited and not existed... snafu makes sense because that was the coolest thing I've witnessed on GDQ. Damn, that opening sequence is great.

 

[Crayolan]

It's funny that they have to repeat "This is not a glitch" all the time. Should give the category a name that doesn't require them to justify all the tricks they do haha.

Well some things are just exploits working around the existing game systems rather than breaking the game, despite looking like the latter. There were people in the chat suspicious of even basic stuff like save warping which is clearly intended and not a glitch by any definition.

 

[imBask]

i'm fine with a run including an arbitrary set of accepted glitches, but the "glitchless" title is really rubbing people the wrong way lol

 

[MaximumSpider]

So the developers really intended for you to boost through the air using bombs? Hmmm

 

[Speevy]

So the developers really intended for you to boost through the air using bombs? Hmmm

Eiji Aonuma loves that bomb-boosting shit.

 

[Coonce]

i'm fine with a run including an arbitrary set of accepted glitches, but the "glitchless" title is really rubbing people the wrong way lol

I think "no wrong warp" would suit this run better.

 

[FloweryMarston]

"it's not a glitch, it's a exploit!!"

?????????????

 

[Crayolan]

So the developers really intended for you to boost through the air using bombs? Hmmm

It is intended for link to be knocked back (or forward, depending on your momentum) when hit by a bomb in midair, yes. The players are just using this mechanic in a way the devs did not account for.

"it's not a glitch, it's a exploit!!"

?????????????

A glitch is breaking the game in an unintended way, or as the runners said "creating a new mechanic". (someone else can probably give a better definition...)

An exploit is using the existing game mechanics in a way the devs did not expect you to be able to.

 

[Speevy]

I've often wondered if the best players in games like these see lines of code instead of characters and environments, like they're staring at the Matrix.

They say stuff like "Yeah, the game is wanting me to have the so and so item so it can do a cutscene but I trick it by backflipping and equipping a bomb at the same time so that it counts down and when it gets to 0 it can't find the item. It then warps me through the wall to the final boss."

Like, how do you first figure something like that out?

 

[jediyoshi]

That's not really true though, since Any% (No Wrong Warp) is it's own separate category, that many focuses on using a different major glitch known as Reverse Bottle Adventure to get through the run that uses a glitch to turn your Bottle into other items you need. Then I believe there's also Any% No WW/RBA, which is using neither of those major glitches but using minor ones like superslides and bomb hovering... OoT speedrunning is weird, basically.

Between saying "glitchless" and "any% no ww but some other things to keep it interesting that don't completely break the game the way ww would", there's probably a better middle ground somewhere. The fact that people aren't instead spamming an obvious name it should be instead should highlight the issue to people lol

 

[Death Metalist]

Lmao, Louis Vuitton donated 10K$. Good shit.

 

[Vulcano's assistant]

Chat: Louis Vuitton

LMAO

 

[Death Metalist]

I've often wondered if the best players in games like these see lines of code instead of characters and environments, like they're staring at the Matrix.

They say stuff like "Yeah, the game is wanting me to have the so and so item so it can do a cutscene but I trick it by backflipping and equipping a bomb at the same time so that it counts down and when it gets to 0 it can't find the item. It then warps me through the wall to the final boss."

Like, how do you first figure something like that out?

Usually when you do glitches and skips in games, you can apply that to other games and then improvise on your methods. The other side of it would be using TAS as well(Tool Assisted Speedrun) which is what we'll see later in the schedule.

 

[Nasbin]

Glitchless is so self-evidently stupid that it feels like this run was selected out of spite for the people who demand to see OoT at every GDQ. No WW/MST is infinitely better than this meme category.

 

[Released]

I like how any time any% OoT runs have been posted on this forum, people whine about the excessive glitch abuse, but along comes a category that reigns the glitching in and people still whine lol.

Anyways, it should be evident that determining what is and isn't a glitch is actually extremely messy and subjective. Some things are obvious, like wrong warp, but how do you ban crouch stabbing, a move that's in the instruction manual?

 

[painey]

zelda runs are so dull

 

[Speevy]

They need to do a Dark Souls all bosses race.

 

[Tizoc]

Why does Link sound like the protagonist from Legaia 1?

 

[Death Metalist]

.

 

[Fix-It Felix. Jr.]

I should have napped during this run to be rejuvenated for Pikmin.

 

[RagnarokX]

If you would like to see a much more frustrating version of this run, see Game Grumps. Arin loves him some hover boots.

 

[Death Metalist]

Sweet run, even though it was dull at times but that's because we've seen Zelda one too many times. Other then that, excited for the glitch exhibition!

 

[Lulubop]

LOL

 

[Fix-It Felix. Jr.]

Lmao, these stacked glitches are hilarious.

 

[Death Metalist]

lmao.

 

[Death Metalist]

Fantastic lol.

 

[Fix-It Felix. Jr.]

Alright, ready to watch chrism Pikmin!

 

[Vulcano's assistant]

Now you know they are using your donations to buy VR kits !!

 

[Death Metalist]

That was awesome, Pikmin for me then I'm off to bed.

 

[TheChits]

Pikmin <3

 

[Wilsongt]

All of the trans representation this year is amazing.

 

[SmackAttack]

I'm so pissed. it stormed hard here and knocked out my power right before the Super Mario Maker race. How good was it? At least I can stay up later than I should so I can see Pikmin!

And of course Twitch chat is being... well you know.

 

[Velcro Fly]

man that clint stevens call out at the end of the glitch exhibition was savage

 

[Lace]

I'm blown away at the rampant sexism in Twitch chat. For such a wonderful cause the chat makes up some of the most disappointing individuals.

 

[BurgerDicks]

Majority in chat must be 18 under. At least I hope. In that its stupid and cancerous a lot of the time and the kids are venting out.

 

[Tizoc]

Woah is that the game's music? It's pretty calming.

 

[Death Metalist]

Woah is that the game's music? It's pretty calming.

Yup, the Pikmin games always had a great OST.

 

[Lace]

Majority in chat must be 18 under. At least I hope. In that its stupid and cancerous a lot of the time and the kids are venting out.

I don't understand how the chat is allowed to get so poisonous. Some heavy moderation needs to be taken place on the chat.

 

[cchriss]

I don't understand how the chat is allowed to get so poisonous. Some heavy moderation needs to be taken place on the chat.

Isn't chat in emote only mode? Or are you talking about before because i just started watching.