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Super Best Friends Thread 9: "Don't Get Cocky, Jesus!"
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Banana Aeon
Member
To appeal to that very small market? DP landed with a thud on the open market.
Microsoft would have lost money trying to advertise something like that.
DoktorEvil
Banned
I think we also fail to forget that Deadly Prem. has the Twin Peaks crossover appeal going for it.
With D4, we have no idea what SWERY is parodying.
With D4, we have no idea what SWERY is parodying.
Get ready to get dempsey rolled by little mac
It's Monk and The mentalist.
skLaFarebear
Member
Again, except when he called it a Beat Em Up. Jared knows about character action about as much I know about Magic the Gathering. Which is why the review didn't really get to me. He's a great guy with some great and well done video and I tend to agree with a lot of what he says outside of the action genre, but when it comes to character action he really just can't understand a lot of the core mechanics of that genre. Classifying Platinum's style of character action as a beat em up is just like me classifying magic the gathering as like uno or go fish.
Obviously they could have done a better job of marketing. I won't deny that. But it wouldn't have sold much more. The game is just too weird for people that especially own an XBone. Most people that do bought it for things like Master Chief Collection or Titanfall.
Banana Aeon
Member
I was waiting for the carrot.
jack_package_200
Banned
Little Mac is a dirt ass mother-fucker Ippo wannabe. He ain't worth shiiiit
DoktorEvil
Banned
RecursiveFault
Banned
I gave Bayo 1/2 to a friend who's just a big Nintendo guy, hadn't played an action game for more than a few minutes. He struggled through the first game with items before he got the second, where the lower difficulty and such got him inspired to play better. Now I'm gonna try to get him into DMC with 1 or 3.
He didn't list any positives, but I guess I just care too much about a one minute review.
E_Darkness
Member
Oh hey we're new thread now. I should finish these essays...
skLaFarebear
Member
Only get him into one if he cares about the history of why games like Bayo and MGR exist. Otherwise, he's better off skipping to 3. I'd say that 1 is arguably just as hard as 3 because 1 doesn't have infinite lives and if you game over you have to start from the beginning of the mission.
misses bull
Banned
I can't think of any positives either, its just bland.
DoktorEvil
Banned
This. I have the OG PS2 copy and I forgot how difficult the game is.
skLaFarebear
Member
The game has some really difficult moments. I died in one far more than three, but maybe that's just because I got better at the game by the time I beat 1 and 2. But stuff like Phantom 1, Nightmare 3 and Mundus fucked me up hard where I'm 3 I only had real problems with
Beowulf, Arkham and Vergil 3.
misses bull
Banned
I'm watching gurren again, I'm glad they haven't done away with this gay stereotype yet.
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
I'm guilty of putting too much time into both.
Gurren is love. Gurren is life.
RecursiveFault
Banned
I had $6 on PSN so I bought RE2 for my Vita. Time to suck at it.
The type of guy he is, he likes playing older originals. Despite the challenge, I think he's acted more interested in 1, and he'd probably like it more with the campy RE tone. He owns a original PS2 copy of DMC3 that he hasn't played, but if he does he's gonna be playing on no-checkpoints on hard, so I told him to hold off and borrow my PS3 sometime.
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
Yeah yeah yeah! Have you played RE1?
DoktorEvil
Banned
Question:
Why isn't there portable character action games?
I'm curious why there aren't more DMC games for Vita or PSP, or are they out there and I don't know about them.
Why isn't there portable character action games?
I'm curious why there aren't more DMC games for Vita or PSP, or are they out there and I don't know about them.
ArclightBorealis
Member
Motherfucker I missed the launch of the new thread. It had to happen while I was away from my computer...at the Gameworks...playing Pop'n Music...
Guys, Pop'n Music is my new crack. Fuck Persona, rhythm games are one hell of a drug.
Guys, Pop'n Music is my new crack. Fuck Persona, rhythm games are one hell of a drug.
RecursiveFault
Banned
Noooope. I just grabbed 2 since I've seen the RE2 LP, with no knowledge put into the choice.
I have a dose of Project Diva crack at least once a week now. I bought songs for Jubeat on iOS, and I just reinstalled Love Live.
misses bull
Banned
I always assumed that niche genre on a smaller market means no sales.
Rhythm games are dumb
Well I'm not the most knowledgeable about these games but I can give it a shot.
Almost all Infinity Engine games use ADND 2nd editiom. This means it uses THAC0, resting usually takes in-game hours and you can get interrupted by enemies, these games usually run with 6 character parties (any mix of your own creations and companion NPCs with stories/quests) and have a simple world map where you select locations of interests rather than manual traversal. Some games may also use the "feats" system (I think Icewind Dale 2 does).
- Baldur's Gate 1
- Baldur's Gate 2 + expansions
- Icewind Dale 1 and 2
- Temple of Elemental Evil
- Planescape Torment (you can't make your own character here, but you can choose the personality) (also probably best 2nd edition game)
Then there's the other games that use 3.5 edition rules. They changed out THAC0 with attack bonus vs. armour class (this is much simpler to understand while doing the same thing as THAC0), you generally only create a single character and party sizes range from 2 to 4 (not counting summons and familiars). Resting is convenient and quick and there is usually no chance of getting attacked. Overworld maps are generally the same as in 2nd edition games. Prestige classes are also included from NWN1 Shadows of Undrentide onwards.
- Neverwinter Nights 1 + expansions
- Neverwinter Nights 2 + Mask of the Betrayer (this expansion is probably one of the best 3rd edition games)
- NWN2 Storm of Zehir (weird expansion, you can have a 6-man party and the world map is traversable, characters can be a mix of player-created or companion NPCs, has a trading system and a keep upgrade system)
All these games are real-time with pause I think.
There's probably more, and there are a dozen spinoff that don't play anything like the above (Dark Alliance series, probably a few dungeon crawlers) but that should cover the most prominent ones.
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
Motherfucker, you missing the better game! Oh well, just remember, Claire A, Leon B.
Banana Aeon
Member
Control scheme, maybe? It's a worthwhile idea, even though the Vita is basically a mini console, making the advantage of developing for portable disappear.
I wish I could play Pop'n Music.
misses bull
Banned
He can play the remake, that comes out like next month
Play RE1 and pick best girl Jill pls and thank you
DoktorEvil
Banned
But senran kagura shinobi vs...
RecursiveFault
Banned
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
But they're different! They're completely different games and REmake plays on a lot of expectations and differences with the original. The best way to play REmake is with a healthy knowledge of RE1, because only then can you realize the PSone version is better.
Play it before REmake.
skLaFarebear
Member
Because getting those kind of games to run on a vita or especially a PSP at 60 FPS would require some seriously good optimizing programming skills. Also, no left or right trigger which are extremely important in these kind of games. Korra wasn't exactly "easy" to control in Remote Play since R2 and L2 were block/parry and dodge which on the vita is the rear touch pad.
Then he'll love DMC1. It's a good game and the father of stylish character action so I'll always respect it for that.
LOL I knew you probably would have.
No! He needs to experience the Jill sandwiches in its full glory!
Thismanknow.gif
DoktorEvil
Banned
Korra could've been ported to a handheld. So could Bayo, MGR, Vanquish, DMC, A:R, etc. and could entice more people to dive into the console.
Probably smaller budgets for smaller hardware too.
skLaFarebear
Member
"You were almost a GoodWil-eh sandwich"
Other than it's genre he still got it down right. All of his complaints were valid.
Banana Aeon
Member
This picture took me about 20 minutes to make.
Please appreciate it.
Its awful. I know. I am just so bored at work.
misses bull
Banned
This picture took me about 20 minutes to make.
Please appreciate it.
needs naruto
ArclightBorealis
Member
I also tried my hands at nonstop mode in DDR Extreme. Almost completed it till I fucked up the last song. I may not be ready for 4 songs in a row with no breaks
I should just buy that DJ Dao Pop'n Music controller and one of the PS2 games, but that would cost me 300 bucks. I may or may not be on the verge of another unwise spending decision.
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
DoktorEvil
Banned
jack_package_200
Banned
Forgot waifus
skLaFarebear
Member
Of course they were. Not polished, story, lack of variety in enemies, camera etc. Basically anything that has to do with the game outside of the core mechanics was spot on. It's just that how much he values that other fluff compared to character action fans is much greater and that shows in his score. I have the same complaints otherwise but I'd give the game a high 7-low 8 mostly because I've never played an action game because it looks nice or has a well written deep story.
Banana Aeon
Member
Korra's the only one I see making a splash on portable. The other games are too much, and the main audience would prefer playing on a home console. Maybe Anarchy Reigns, but that didn't make money on consoles either.
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
Sp-spoilers! AHHH!
ArclightBorealis
Member
The thing with most character action games is that they use just about every button on the controller, and what the Vita lacks are actual L2 and R2 triggers.
Ninja Gaiden Sigma + is on there and works alright because that game didn't assign separate functions to 4 trigger buttons. You only really needed 2.
Ninja Gaiden Sigma + is on there and works alright because that game didn't assign separate functions to 4 trigger buttons. You only really needed 2.
Haha, mine's already left Japan, and I get the preorder bonuses!