Shamrock7r
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GGs Ricky.
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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS |OT3| Little Mac and Cheese
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Vermillion
Banned
Karsticles
Member
10 runs without a new Smash Run Power.
He has super armor on nothing. Just Tough Guy up to 56%.
GGs man, had a lot of fun. Sorry about the DC at the start too.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Up to 56%? Gotcha. Was wondering why sometimes I would start it up and it couldn't be interrupted by weak attacks.
Eh. Not quite ready to face your Link again with my Bowser.
I'll play you if you want?
Shway. My friend code is in my profile, what's yours?
0473-7756-0720
Karsticles
Member
Want to play now? I would like to face another accomplished Bowser.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Sure, I expect to lose though. Should make for a good learning experience regardless. I'll host.
Karsticles
Member
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Nice dodge
Blood Diamonds
Banned
holy shit i got my ass destroyed, sorry i was terrible in all those games DaBoss lol
Karsticles
Member
I am learning a lot.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I won one finally
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Initial is by weight; can be manipulated by speed I think.
Karsticles
Member
I am salty.
ok, cool, i'll try it out. So slower = more points because they'll need them?
Karsticles
Member
I need a Bowser break. Picking Pikachu.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Yeah, but characters are slow as hell already and 5 minutes isn't a lot of time to use a ton of powers.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
In that case...
Edit: Projectiles just wreck me. But good games. The Bowser mirror match was fun. Pikachu spam not so much.
Karsticles
Member
I can pick another character if Pikachu is annoying you. Just ask. I am not offended.
GGs Magius. Feedback, and I welcome some from you as well:
1) You use Bowser's Dair and d.B a lot, and get punished for it. While I punished them inconsistently, if there were no input lag, your rewards would have been fewer. I signed every time I lost my shield to d.B, because I was letting go of the shield after the inititial hit to get a punish. Eventually I just started dodging out of the way and going for smaller punishes for safety.
2) I never saw you air dodge cancel with Bowser, but it helped me open you up several times. Do you know how to do this?
3) When returning to the ground, never go for the aerial unless you are certain it will hit. I got a lot of Fortress punishes off of this.
4) Bowser has four moves good for punishing. Grab, f.B, d.B, and u.B. I think you underutilized d.B a lot, since it punishes for the best % and kills.
5) I am not sure what the point of double jumping to approach is. I am not sure if it ever did you any good. I have seen ZeRo do this, but it never got him anything, either.
6) f.smash is garbage outside of punishes. It gets stuffed by everything. No Tough Guy bonus, it seems.
7) The ledge attack is fully invincible. Once I finished experimenting against your f.smash ledge guard with other options (all bad it seems), it never hit me again.
8) You have 5 options when leaving the ledge. Are familiar with all of them? I think I only saw you use 3.
9) Not really advice, but wow @ Pikachu's shock sending Gordo's back. I wish Fire Breath were so lucky...
10) Show me your Ganondorf next time! I mained him in Brawl, but his face in this game...
GGs Magius. Feedback, and I welcome some from you as well:
1) You use Bowser's Dair and d.B a lot, and get punished for it. While I punished them inconsistently, if there were no input lag, your rewards would have been fewer. I signed every time I lost my shield to d.B, because I was letting go of the shield after the inititial hit to get a punish. Eventually I just started dodging out of the way and going for smaller punishes for safety.
2) I never saw you air dodge cancel with Bowser, but it helped me open you up several times. Do you know how to do this?
3) When returning to the ground, never go for the aerial unless you are certain it will hit. I got a lot of Fortress punishes off of this.
4) Bowser has four moves good for punishing. Grab, f.B, d.B, and u.B. I think you underutilized d.B a lot, since it punishes for the best % and kills.
5) I am not sure what the point of double jumping to approach is. I am not sure if it ever did you any good. I have seen ZeRo do this, but it never got him anything, either.
6) f.smash is garbage outside of punishes. It gets stuffed by everything. No Tough Guy bonus, it seems.
7) The ledge attack is fully invincible. Once I finished experimenting against your f.smash ledge guard with other options (all bad it seems), it never hit me again.
8) You have 5 options when leaving the ledge. Are familiar with all of them? I think I only saw you use 3.
9) Not really advice, but wow @ Pikachu's shock sending Gordo's back. I wish Fire Breath were so lucky...
10) Show me your Ganondorf next time! I mained him in Brawl, but his face in this game...
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
2. No I do not. How is that done?
8. What are the other 2?
10. As for Ganondorf I could try him but honestly I kinda suck with him. Even if I do want to main him.
Main problem I have in general is my Circle Pad isn't in the best of shape so I can't react as quick like I would with an actual controller.
Yeah the double jumping does seem kinda pointless when I think about it.
I will remember your advice though.
And Pikachu doesn't annoy me. What you can do with the base character is fair game. You play to win and only way people will learn is by losing to those tactics and learning from them.
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Hmmmm....feedback...can't really think of any. As it stands you are the better Bowser player. I guess take note that Up tilt hits above and behind you but not in front. And Down Tilt is good for edge guarding sometimes and does over 10% damage.
I also wouldn't always start with a jumping Flame Breath, practically guaranteed to get punished for it afterwards.
Thought I share some of my online matches from fellow gaffers. Unfortunately the quality may not be good as I recorded and uploaded them using my ipad. I hope it not too hard to watch. Enjoy. Oh and feel free to comment on them.
http://youtu.be/A9-KZRIzJuI
http://youtu.be/_L3E4swXA_A
http://youtu.be/nDC-6cSrhI4
http://youtu.be/oOxrW22oIEQ
Bonus. This is some match from For Glory. First one I'm not quite sure how I got that spike and the second I got that KO win by reading that Fox like a third grade textbook
http://youtu.be/OZi0bfLtuvI
http://youtu.be/LV6p_PSvexo
http://youtu.be/A9-KZRIzJuI
http://youtu.be/_L3E4swXA_A
http://youtu.be/nDC-6cSrhI4
http://youtu.be/oOxrW22oIEQ
Bonus. This is some match from For Glory. First one I'm not quite sure how I got that spike and the second I got that KO win by reading that Fox like a third grade textbook
http://youtu.be/OZi0bfLtuvI
http://youtu.be/LV6p_PSvexo
Karsticles
Member
I only start with Fire Breath because it covers the screen and I can't see what is going on for the first two seconds of the fight. It is a good way to make people stay away!
Dtilt is a great ledge guard, I agree. I am trying to find other good stuff, though, because when people use the roll recovery off of the ledge, I use it because it looks like they are recovering in front of me. Then I get punished because the move has so many frames. I usually only use Dtilt against people camping the ledge.
Yeah, I need to use utilt better, and more often. I rarely use it, Nair, and dsmash. The latter two are just shifty moves, I think. Utilt deserves more love.
The other two ledge enders are tapping shield to roll onto the stage, and tapping back to let go. Bowser can make good use of the first one. Roll onti the stage and Fortress catches a lot of people off guard.
The circle pad sucks. We both did stupid stuff because of it.
Dtilt is a great ledge guard, I agree. I am trying to find other good stuff, though, because when people use the roll recovery off of the ledge, I use it because it looks like they are recovering in front of me. Then I get punished because the move has so many frames. I usually only use Dtilt against people camping the ledge.
Yeah, I need to use utilt better, and more often. I rarely use it, Nair, and dsmash. The latter two are just shifty moves, I think. Utilt deserves more love.
This particular dodge cancel tech only works with Bowser. Hop, immediately air dodge, and right as you hit the floor, use a special move. Usually, I use Fortress. You will go right from invincibility to Fortress.
The other two ledge enders are tapping shield to roll onto the stage, and tapping back to let go. Bowser can make good use of the first one. Roll onti the stage and Fortress catches a lot of people off guard.
The circle pad sucks. We both did stupid stuff because of it.
OricWindstar
Member
Anyone down for some 1v1?
I play you for. Bit. I think we already have each other.
OricWindstar
Member
Cool. If not, my FC is in my profile. I'll make a room.
I hate playing against defensive Bowser, it requires too much thinking to beat him. xP
XDNot really
Fuck Angelina Jolie, I am salt right now
OricWindstar
Member
I'm still learning how to counter.
I saw that coming. And you are suppose to be the hero king descendant? I'm dissappointed.I'm still learning how to counter.
OricWindstar
Member
Come at me.
...doesn't sound that tough when I'm losing, but it's all I got.
Edit: Jesus, those tippers are crazy.
Yup, tipper definitely hurt a lot
OricWindstar
Member
Haha, sorry if this is boring for you, but it's helping me get over some bad habits I have.
It no problem. You do have a bad habit if air dodging
OricWindstar
Member
i've got a million bad habits. Feel free to point them out whenever! I'm trying to improve all I can.
You can start by learning to use tilts with Lucina.
OricWindstar
Member
Ah, I know! I'm so bad with tilts in general. Let me try and focus on them in this next match.
I also like to point out you are roll happy extremist.
Another thing, if you are trying to dash with B, it will only happen on full charge
OricWindstar
Member
Karsticles
Member
Browser is meant to be defensive. He doesn't have good offensive options unless he is in your face.