Geminosity
Member
Well, that sucks to me. I felt VI was much more intuitive (press towards the stage) as opposed to less intuitive task of trying to work out your angle so you can hold 90 degrees to it (aka aim for the upper corner) :/
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Geminosity
Member
Welllll, this takes a bit of explaining so I'll link you this video someone made that has some visual aids to try and clarify what these two things are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_l60yxG-Ygwhat was vectoring? whats DI? someone explain
Hope that helps clear it up at least somewhat :3
Blood Diamonds
Banned
Thanks, this is a great explanation. It seems like Vectoring was easier? In any case I didn't notice anything different before reading this lol
Yeah, I'm following that thread. I'm just waiting for more tests/data.
Geminosity
Member
Vectoring is closer to what people naturally do, I think, so yeah. DI always seemed counter-intuitive to me but from what people are saying what little DI there is in the game isn't strong enough to save you much more than 1% to 4% above what would normally kill you so it might not be worth worrying about too much
We'll have to wait and see what people can find (though peeps are always welcome to look into it themselves too :3 )
That said, if VI is definitely gone and DI is as weak as people claim it is in this, then I can see a lot of combos becoming more reliable, including Palutena's d-throw into n-air XD
mentallyinept
Banned
What's everyone's For Glory stats looking like going into Smash WiiU tomorrow?
I hit 1000 matches earlier tonight:
I hit 1000 matches earlier tonight:
RomanceDawn
Member
Anyone up for some games?
MasterCheeze
Member
Now we just need longer hit stun and no air dodging and barely any landing lag.
64 was so fucking good, can't wait for that 64 mode in Project M if it's true.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
Glad about that vectoring change. A lot of time is spent on recovery and it's more fun to put the slight bit of extra thought towards aiming your trajectory than simply always holding to the stage.
It also opens a lot more potential for combos and makes people die a bit sooner, which was needed.
Though i do admit it's slightly more confusing to people who don't know about it.
It also opens a lot more potential for combos and makes people die a bit sooner, which was needed.
Though i do admit it's slightly more confusing to people who don't know about it.
Geminosity
Member
I don't think something that requires an explanation of vector mechanics and usually some kind of diagram or demo to fully demonstrate it can ever count as being 'slightly' more confusing than simply "hold the direction you want to go", but maybe that's just me?
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
I don't think something that requires an explanation of vector mechanics and usually some kind of diagram or demo to fully demonstrate it can ever count as being 'slightly' more confusing than simply "hold the direction you want to go", but maybe that's just me?
I don't know why some people make it so complicated in their explinations. You don't need graphs to explain DI.
Basically the distance you're going to travel after being hit is going to be the same every time. The farthest death point from the stage is the corner so angle yourself towards the corner.
It's just not self apparent or explained in the game, but neither is vectoring, which is just DI except you can influence the distanced traveled after being hit, and reducing that distance traveled was better than changing angles.
Geminosity
Member
People make their explanations as complex as they need to be. The paragraph you just used to explain it usually gets a either a 'why?' or a blank look from a lot of people until you break out the graph paper :3
Vectoring was intuitive because it's pretty similar to a mechanic already evident in the game: air-control. in many ways, VI is just a natural extension of your ability to control your velocity in the air and also ties in to the input most people new to the game will instinctively attempt
I'm not too fussed about VI going, personally, but I've never been a huge fan of DI due to it being somewhat non-intuitive to most players I've introduced to the game
Monster Zero
Junior Member
Anyone 1v1?
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What's everyone's For Glory stats looking like going into Smash WiiU tomorrow?
I hit 1000 matches earlier tonight:
I've got around 800 wins / 400 losses on For Glory (~65% win rate), but the most interesting thing is that because I use Random the spread of wins is really weird - I've got 24 wins with Dedede, Pac-Man, and even Zelda.
I suck using Falco though, only 7 wins with him.
Masked Man
I said wow
I'm sitting at a 60% win rate after 2000+ matches. Considering how many insanely good people are on here--probably a lot more truly hardcore players on average than the US For Glory--I suppose the ratio makes sense.
RomanceDawn
Member
Oh sorry man. After 5 minutes I just hopped on for glory.
Anyone want to play this morning?
Most of the time I usually play for 30 minutes to an hour once I'm ready for bed. It's so easy to jump into a match then just get carried about wanting another shot at whoever you played, or wanting to give them another try.
It'd be better if there was a messaging system of some kind, even some pre-generated sentences or something. I always feel bad about bailing on someone I'm having fun with/learning from/whatever and isn't quitting out themselves because I don't want to send the wrong message, so I just keep rematching till they bail themselves. :lol
Karsticles
Member
I have over 1000 battles, work 60 hours a week, am a student working on my MA, and I'm married. You just have to make it work!
Character Frame Data from Thinkaman on Smashboards using Dantarion's data dump. Still a WIP.
Geminosity
Member
yeah, I'd at least like to be able to say "last game" in the character select or "gg" or something :3
Tathanen
Get Inside Her!
But sometimes Hyrule Warriors needs playing! D:
Hey, no Johns!
I actually let a friend of mine borrow HW right around Smash release, because I had Smash to play. Now I really need to get that back. Fun game.
Not that I'll have time for a while, with Smash Wii U AND Pokemon releasing tomorrow.
ShadowgeistX
Member
Not gonna lie, I've neglected smash to burn 60+ hours in Hyrule Warriors. I'll probably be scrub tier when I get the Wii U version tomorrow.
Masked Man
I said wow
I finished the main storyline on Hyrule Warriors, and I'll get around to completing the Adventure Mode eventually. I bought Captain Toad last week (so adorable!), but I doubt that will take me too long. I'll probably pick up Alpha Sapphire later today. I also still have to finish Xenoblade! I just made it to the Eryth Sea, so I'm sure I still have quite a ways to go.
Oh, no! I'm sorry to hear that...
Oh, no!
I'm sorry to hear that...
RomanceDawn
Member
Anyone want to play?
ill play fc in profile
Geminosity
Member
Heh, the main story is a droplet of content compared to the ocean that is the adventure map. Good luck! :3
Also, Eryth Sea is probably my favourite location in Xenoblade XD
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
I am, though I'm unexpectedly getting a Wii U next week. Don't know how much I'll play of each one once I have it on Wii U.
And people really wanted Mario buffs? He's so good in this game, I haven't really found him notably lacking in any category.
And people really wanted Mario buffs? He's so good in this game, I haven't really found him notably lacking in any category.
KittenMaster
Member
I am, at least until hopefully tonight.
Based on Jumpman's performance he did have trouble in some top tier matchups, but some of those have been nerfed, so we may see a viable character in the making.