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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS |OT3| Little Mac and Cheese
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Don't let a few losses get you down. Every bit of practice helps.
I don't think matchmaking systems can work... pretty much ever in a fighting game -- ESPECIALLY one like this with 50~ characters. Things are difficult to judge for a system. Are you doing poorly and you need to go against lower ranked people? Or do you just have troubles with certain characters and had a bad streak involving them? Doing really good? Or was it just a streak against a match-up you know?
I think it could have been improved, but it's pretty good.
Now for a healthy dose of cheesy "Don't give up." Take a break if you feel yourself playing poorly. But don't give up entirely. The whole you learn from your losses thing is real. You just have to actually look into the information learned rather than get bummed out by it.
Chezzymann
Member
This imput lag is REALLY annoying. I pressed B down as Yoshi, other guy hits me, I get knocked back off the stage a bit, THEN the B down registers and I fall to my doom.
Whoa IceDoesntHelp got banned? Good.
Consistently one of the most obnoxious posters in this thread with nothing to justify all that vitriol besides "muh purple space dragon isn't in" and a chip on her shoulder about the general state of Kid Icarus representation in Smash 4. A chill pill was needed months ago.
Consistently one of the most obnoxious posters in this thread with nothing to justify all that vitriol besides "muh purple space dragon isn't in" and a chip on her shoulder about the general state of Kid Icarus representation in Smash 4. A chill pill was needed months ago.
If I feel input lag that's too unbearable I just suicide and look for a new lobby. Not worth playing those rounds. That's one example where you really won't learn from losses. Or wins. You learn nothing but how to play a second in the future. >_<
lol I had it happen where I press down B as Dorf, Shulk hits me, and it registers while I'm off the edge and I kick into the abyss.
Ganondorf is just so damn powerful lol. Across all fighting games, positioning tends to be my strong suite (although your DDD and Sonic make that statement look like a complete lie lol).
And with Ganondorf, you just need to be at the right at the right time. So he suites me well sometimes. Cause when he hits. It hurts
For any Luigi players it's possible to do Luigi Downthrow > Fiery Jump Punch Custom Up B with the critical hit.
Good games Moonlight! I think you improved compared to our last encounter. If I'm directly on top of you on the second level platforms on Battlefield is there any move you could do besides up-smash to hit me from below? I saw you do that a few times and that made it easy for me to avoid it and get an attack in. Robin's grab range seems really small, but maybe using the long range Nosferatu custom move could make up for it in some cases? I feel like you would have definitely gotten some of those grabs if her range wasn't so short. > . <
Yeah, the dash attack goes on for a bit, but he does a couple of rapid hits then a slight pause and then the last hit, so you can hit him there if you're blocking it.
You can deflect the Heavy Volleyball with your normal attacks and any sweeping normals/aerials will do well against it. Up-Air if you see it coming down on you and maybe F-air if it's going straight at you. There's a risk you might get hit if you don't time it properly though. : p
That was a lucky break for me, haha.
Great games, Beats! Wish I had a less unceremonious way to leave those rooms, but it's getting kinda late here. I'm a little proud of myself from going from a 1:4 stock ratio from last time to something closer to a 1:2, but I guess I've still got a ways to go. Luigi's dash attack never fails to catch me off guard. Don't think there's a single dash attack in the game that feels like it goes on as long as that does, so I always try to dodge roll out and I still get caught. The air combos you were pulling off were pretty nice, too. Took me a while to figure out how to deal with that fireball ledge-guarding too. :sweatdrop
And of course, I still have barely any clue how to handle your WFT. It's way too intense. That stuff you were doing with the heavy soccer ball like launching it at high speed with the Sun Salutation was craaaazy.
Think I've gotta work on my spacing, though. I was pretty bad at planting some of those Arcfires.
and all those times I forgot arcfire existed entirely ._.
Good games Moonlight! I think you improved compared to our last encounter. If I'm directly on top of you on the second level platforms on Battlefield is there any move you could do besides up-smash to hit me from below? I saw you do that a few times and that made it easy for me to avoid it and get an attack in. Robin's grab range seems really small, but maybe using the long range Nosferatu custom move could make up for it in some cases? I feel like you would have definitely gotten some of those grabs if her range wasn't so short. > . <
Yeah, the dash attack goes on for a bit, but he does a couple of rapid hits then a slight pause and then the last hit, so you can hit him there if you're blocking it.
You can deflect the Heavy Volleyball with your normal attacks and any sweeping normals/aerials will do well against it. Up-Air if you see it coming down on you and maybe F-air if it's going straight at you. There's a risk you might get hit if you don't time it properly though. : p
I'm not yet sure who my mains will be, but I'm fighting a lot with Lucina right now. We can do a few battles if you want. I'm glad to get some additional training in! However, keep in mind that I'm decent at best with Lucina
If you're interested, my FC is 3609-2231-6052
Lucina is one of my secondaries (plus I used Marth pretty often in Melee). If you want to get some practice in, hit me up with a PM.
You should also point out that Ness's down throw pops them up, and it nearly always grants you a follow-up aerial at low %.
FUNKNOWN iXi
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Anyone want to do some 4p games? Teams, FFA, rotate 1v1's, items, whatever.
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I main Lucina (as much as I can claim that after only a week) and need to get some practice in anyway. I'll pretty much be playing the game all weekend, so hit me up if you want to go a few rounds.
Professor Beef
Banned
It's not enough to tech since he can still hit you after it. You have to techroll away or behind him. Practice the timing, because it's kinda weird, especially online.
I think I could probably try a short-hopped Levin uair instead of the Up-Smash, but I'm not sure if that would be just as easy to shield. Might be harder to punish, though, since it auto-cancels, so that'll probably wind up being the better option, anyways.
And yeah, Robin's grab range is utterly awful. If you noticed, I was trying to go for some of those roll-cancelled-grabs to try and make up the range difference, but I'm still kinda bad at getting that input consistently so I whiffed almost all of them. >_>
I've, uh, completed ignored the Nosferatu customs, so I'd have to get back to you on it. I think the main issue with Nosferatu is still just the intense start-up, so it's easier to react to than the bog-standard grab.
also I keep forgetting I even have nosferatu sometimes
Good to know on the soccer balls, though! Might keep me from getting constantly bounced by those things, haha. It's a really great set-up, either way. Seems like it covers a lot of options at once.
KLatin Scelus
Member
Whoa, dude, what's with the unnecessary insults?
Was she really so annoying that you had to go off-topic to criticize her?
Don't get discouraged. Online is a mixed bag and your win/loss ratio is pretty much meaningless. If you want, why not post footage or yourself or play someone from here so we can give you some pointers or try to break your bad habits by punishing them.
Thanks, so you can't just do a stand up? I swear I've did that before, and I thought those were invincible for a second but I could be wrong....
Monster Zero
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Who wants to Smash!.... 1v1
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You do have some invincibility on it, it's just a matter of timing. With Ganon his hitboxes on like jab or down tilt might be out long enough to cover both tech and not tech... but if he knows which way you'll roll, he can probably punish that too. Try out different options and see what works.
Got it, thanks. I was just playing a Ganon that was getting the follow up nearly everytime, but I wasn't rolling just trying to stand up.
That definitely happens to me sometimes with fighters too. Ya get in your own head too much.
I'm about to get on and I'll chomp dat bacon
JediLink
Member
Not saying you're not bad (it's more likely that you probably are, lol) but you shouldn't get hung up over For Glory win ratios. Given lag, the stupid fact that custom moves aren't usable, and the stupid fact that it's FD only (which makes the army of noob Macs seem better than they are), it's not completely reflective of how you'd do in a conventional competitive setting.
Monster Zero
Junior Member
Yus
Mr Touchdown
Member
In one way I'm glad people can't send messages to each other about salt in this game.
In another way I'm REALLY sad I can't read the hate mail. The tears would be immense.
Edit: also Ness is REALLY sick in this game. Shame I can't be bothered to learn him.
In another way I'm REALLY sad I can't read the hate mail. The tears would be immense.
Edit: also Ness is REALLY sick in this game. Shame I can't be bothered to learn him.
Mr Touchdown
Member
Yeah I've been walloped by good Ness's, he looks really good now, maybe better than his N64 version.
bair is still decent enough, it still feels relatively strong even with the huge ass blast zones. If anything it helps set up for gimping off the edge with PK Thunder/nair/whatever
So fellow Ness mains, who do you think are Ness's weakest matchups?
unknownstranger
Member
Cruel Melee is fucking impossible. Getting KO'd at 56% with Bowser. Got 2 kills because of them killing themselves. Will likely use the hammer on the 4 kill achievement. If there's a 6 kill one I'm gonna go break something.
You can cheese it by using any counter that scales with damage dealt(Marth, Lucina, Ike, Shulk, probably others). They'll take themselves out in one hit.
unknownstranger
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Dr. Buni
Member
Don't give up! I get discouraged sometimes as well (like a few hours ago when I got my ass kicked by an extremely good Ike), but I know I am not getting better if I give up.
It sucks to be matched against top players but still :/
Monster Zero
Junior Member
Damn good fights yet again durden, C falc got buffed crazy in this one, dude is legit
Awesome games as always Zero. That combo into judgement was fuckin nuts. My Robin sucks haha
He's solid as fuck in this. It's weird him not sucking terribly anymore
He's solid as fuck in this. It's weird him not sucking terribly anymore
enron hubbard
Banned
Im a noob - any combos for zero suit or robin that we know about?
The input lag is basically the reason I'm gonna immediately ditch this version once the Wii U one hits. Every battle against a new player is different and you have to adjust immediately. It's insane how many games I made a side smash or up smash and the game didn't register it until later and then my opponent get perfect priority with their move and build up damage on me. It further adds to the bullshit frustration I've developed with this game, something I've never had with Brawl or Melee. It doesn't even have to do with winning or losing, you just feel cheated when the game works against you and all the moves you do end up missing because of the other players Wi-Fi.
unknownstranger
Member
Got the 4 kills in cruel melee spamming counter with Ike. Have mostly grindy achievements left. Assume beating Master Core at 9.0 is one of them I haven't seen yet.
MasterCheeze
Member
GameExplain uploaded a tutorial video using Kirby to rack up some easy KOs. That's the method I used since it seemed more reliable than using counters, but with a bit of luck the counter method will get the job done quicker.
edit: Nevermind, see you got it lol. I tried using Ike for that way too, but I started to get frustrated. Got about 10 KOs using Kirby though, gotta boost that GSP.
Monster Zero
Junior Member
Yea at low %, G&W dthrow can combo into almost anything now. Your robin is Aight, its in that same lane my greninja is in right now, I need more time in the lab with him
Yeah the inconsistent connections suck. The other Is I don't think the matchmaking puts you against people in your region or even country so you have to deal with the latency issues of someone in other countries. I also doubt it pairs you up based on ping rating. I'm going to keep mine though it's still great playing on the go and when not at home.
unknownstranger
Member
Probably my favorite thing with Greninja is dashing and using up smash. You slide on the ground a little bit when you use it.
Spinosaurus
Member
OK so playing Yoshi as my secondary and he doesn't feel right with Wario. Huge difference between them.
I need a secondary that can get in or at least can cover and hit from long distances while still largely being defensive to fit my playstyle. Think I'll learn ROB properly.
I need a secondary that can get in or at least can cover and hit from long distances while still largely being defensive to fit my playstyle. Think I'll learn ROB properly.