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[HeavyMetalLover91]

So hyped for Lucas to come back, was absolutely gutted when I found out he was cut. Will happily pay to get him back in the game, although a new Mother 3 stage would've been nice to as well...

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Would happily take an up-port of Magicant too

 

[Thulius]

Regarding the Greninja/Mewtwo matchup discussion in the previous thread;

Mewtwo has absolutely nothing on well spaced Fairs from Greninja. Nair works too but the spacing required to make it safe is a lot tighter. Mewtwo's so tall that even retreating Bairs are good against him.

Basically the only threats Mewtwo has in the neutral against a jumpy Greninja are Fair, Utilt and shadow ball, none of which leads into anything significant and all of which are awful on whiff. His grab range sucks so you really shouldn't get shield grabbed unless you make a big mistake.

Even if you do get grabbed, Greninja has such a ridiculous combination of jump height/fall speed that you can easily double jump and/or fast fall out of further pressure with almost no risk. Any shuriken short of a full charge is basically impossible for Mewtwo to reflect on reaction and again his height lets you throw them so high that reflected shurikens whiff Greninja anyway.

Neither of them can really do much to the other offstage without a super hard read, but Greninja at least has the mobility to punish Mewtwo if he can force him to land onstage. Not really the case for Mewtwo.

Greninja's also one of the characters with a small enough hurtbox for Mewtwo's grab/jab to randomly whiff even if you do something punishable. It makes Bair a pretty legit approach when it should be absolutely awful.

Staples of Mewtwo's game like Nair, Dtilt and uncharged shadow balls are all pretty much useless against a Greninja that just wants to jump at you, and there are no stages with platforms low enough to stop him from doing that, so...

The one advantage Mewtwo has is a significantly stronger ground game, but Greninja doesn't have to play that game at all until he's looking for the kill and even then he has stuff like empty jump Dtilt and jab1/2 setups that kill much earlier on Mewtwo than most.

 

[Flowmoney]

Anyone wanna fight against me 1v1?

NNID: Conunlimited

 

[TWILT]

New thread smell...looking forward to Lucas; I liked playing him in Brawl. Also, wall of shame:

 

[Beats]

I think Samus' jab 1 is unsafe on hit against ZSS if she's still grounded after the hit. I'll have to test it out later.

also I gotta record my replays before Lucas comes out. `-`

 

[Spinosaurus]

New thread smell...looking forward to Lucas; I liked playing him in Brawl. Also, wall of shame:

Barely missed it damn lol

 

[Karsticles]

I'm not dropping Lucas. Maining him unless he's trash somehow

Done with random select?

I don't know if that's totally fair. I still see Mewtwo fairly often in FG.

Anyway, I know I'll be using Lucas a lot since Ness is my tertiary. I'll happily play them both, as I enjoy their differences!

Yeah, but in terms of serious play...

maybe people are just joking, but there are those wanting Lucas to be a "free" character

I haven't seen that said once in these threads.

New thread smell...looking forward to Lucas; I liked playing him in Brawl. Also, wall of shame:

Wall of pride, sir!

 

[AZCards]

Done with random select?


Yeah, but in terms of serious play...


I haven't seen that said once in these threads.


Wall of pride, sir!

Nevermind, I checked my email. It's all working.

Thank you

 

[MagiusNecros]

New thread smell...looking forward to Lucas; I liked playing him in Brawl. Also, wall of shame:

Wall of Smashing more like.

You can't call it a wall of shame unless it's filled with knee jerk reactionary comments.

 

[Fandangox]

Its only a wall of Shame cause almost no one in that list mains Falcon.

 

[Snacks the sober sea lion]

Who is available to play?

 

[Spinosaurus]

Its only a wall of Shame cause almost no one in that list mains Falcon.

But everyone has a pocket Falcon

 

[MagiusNecros]

But everyone has a pocket Falcon

I don't play Falcon. Your statement is now false.

 

[Flowmoney]

Its only a wall of Shame cause almost no one in that list mains Falcon.

Only shame is that no one plays with items.

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Real men play with items and peach

 

[Captain Rage Quit 69]

New thread smell...looking forward to Lucas; I liked playing him in Brawl. Also, wall of shame:

I'm always on this list, don't know whether that's good or not lol.

So there's that new content presentation on Sunday, any chance we'll get word on balance and tournament modes then?

 

[EvilMario]

Tournament mode during the Lucas update. I want to believe.

 

[Spinosaurus]

I don't play Falcon. Your statement is now false.

Everyone has a pocket Falcon whether you use him or don't.

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the joke is that he's incredibly easy to use

 

[Flowmoney]

Anyone want to me 1 on 1?

 

[Beats]

So there's that new content presentation on Sunday, any chance we'll get word on balance and tournament modes then?

Possibly. I dunno if they'll talk about balance though unless it's major stuff. Speaking of balance, I'm not looking forward to all the changes that people think they've found, but aren't actually true again.

 

[Karsticles]

For TWILT:

https://youtu.be/aNt3sP9jM1I

I know you live off that stuff, haha.

I don't play Falcon. Your statement is now false.

You play Dorf.

 

[Fandangox]

But everyone has a pocket Falcon

But its not the same as maining him, you gotta become one with the falcon.

 

[Karsticles]

But its not the same as maining him, you gotta become one with the falcon.

For you:

https://gfycat.com/ThreadbarePracticalIrrawaddydolphin

 

[MagiusNecros]

You play Dorf.

Who people that defend the clone corner say he is completely different from Falcon. Although he really isn't.

 

[Wyndstryker]

I would've joined the ranbats this season but work and splatoon are eating up my schedule.

Maybe the upcoming update might get me back in smash though.

 

[Karsticles]

Who people that defend the clone corner say he is completely different from Falcon. Although he really isn't.

Yeah, he is just a crappy version of Falcon.

Honestly, Dorf's down B should plow through everything. Negate Shadow Ball and just keep going. That, and a grab buff, might make him viable outside of customs.

I would've joined the ranbats this season but work and splatoon are eating up my schedule.

Maybe the upcoming update might get me back in smash though.

It's cool. Other games come out and distract us sometimes.

 

[MagiusNecros]

Yeah, he is just a crappy version of Falcon.

Honestly, Dorf's down B should plow through everything. Negate Shadow Ball and just keep going. That, and a grab buff, might make him viable outside of customs.

If they gave Wizard's Foot Autoguard I'd be happy. But I think Ganon is pretty much screwed at this point. Without customs Ganon players have limited options and like Mewtwo we rely on prediction.

 

[Snacks the sober sea lion]

Anyone want to me 1 on 1?

This person has asked to play twice and you're all so busy with this NONSENSE. Shameful.

 

[Karsticles]

This person has asked to play twice and you're all so busy with this NONSENSE. Shameful.

I am sick today. Peed out my butt fifteen times and threw up twice. I have a good excuse.

 

[Flowmoney]

This person has asked to play twice and you're all so busy with this NONSENSE. Shameful.

You could always be the one that fights me.

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Everyone else knows I am low tier Smash Gaf

 

[Snacks the sober sea lion]

I would but I'm making lunch.

 

[SoldnerKei]

thanks to my almost whole month of inactivity I avoided the wall of shame :v

also, has this been posted? Samurai is making a mini direct before Lucas launch, I smell shoryukens

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lel yeah maybe at E3

edit: welp, yeah I just saw the thread haha

 

[IntelliHeath]

thanks to my almost whole month of inactivity I avoided the wall of shame :v

also, has this been posted? Samurai is making a mini direct before Lucas launch, I smell shoryukens

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lel yeah maybe at E3

edit: welp, yeah I just saw the thread haha

Haha! I already have hard time to balance between Smash 4, Splatoon and other games this month.

 

[Fandangox]

For you:

https://gfycat.com/ThreadbarePracticalIrrawaddydolphin

That was amazing, was that custom fire kick?

 

[Out_Of_Ammo]

Yaay, new thread!

New thread smell...looking forward to Lucas; I liked playing him in Brawl. Also, wall of shame:

Oh wow, I think it's the first time I made it in a wall of shame. I don't know if that's a good thing or not

 

[Puruzi]

1v1 anyone? ID is HarimeNui

 

[Oidisco]

1v1 anyone? ID is HarimeNui

I'll play for a bit, I'll mostly be using ZSS who I literally just started playing a couple hours ago and am trying to learn. I'm pretty terrible with her, so it's gonna be a bunch of free wins for you!

 

[TWILT]

For TWILT:

https://youtu.be/aNt3sP9jM1I

I know you live off that stuff, haha.

...Well. I've been trying different HSB set ups, but I didn't know you could flat out combo into it. Will practice this later tonight.

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My apologies in advance if I land this on any of you.

 

[Snacks the sober sea lion]

Who's ready to play?

 

[Robiin]

For you:

https://gfycat.com/ThreadbarePracticalIrrawaddydolphin

This is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.

Speaking of Falcon, did you guys see the new Trifroze combo video? Some amazing things in here.
https://youtu.be/kZFEcqo80h8

 

[Beats]

Who's ready to play?

I can play.

 

[Snacks the sober sea lion]

Making the room

 

[Oidisco]

I'm honestly happy with how my ZSS is doing right now. I'm actually not getting 2-stocked in every game!

 

[Beats]

Sorry, had to switch to the gamepad.

 

[Oidisco]

By the way, does ZSS have any good customs that I should try out?

Ah, there's the 2 stock!

 

[Out_Of_Ammo]

This is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.

Speaking of Falcon, did you guys see the new Trifroze combo video? Some amazing things in here.
https://youtu.be/kZFEcqo80h8

Goddamn watching that makes me want to pick up Falcon.

 

[Oidisco]

Gonna switch character for a few games now

 

[NamikazeBurst]

Anyone want to beat me up?

 

[Oidisco]

I thought I had angled that right, but obviously I didn't!

 

[Spinosaurus]

Realized that Doc isn't totally outclassed by Mario and Luigi.

He's pretty mediocre compared to them, but he has several things going for him. A short hop game is a big one and why Doc is arguably better than Mario at some matchups. He also has the best OoS in the game in Up B, that makes Doc incredibly scary on shield since it kills early. He's also pretty incredible at destroying low recoveries between DAir and Tornado.

It's too bad his mobility and recovery are so shit though. What a wasted potential since his short hop game is so fun.

 

[Fandangox]

This is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.

Speaking of Falcon, did you guys see the new Trifroze combo video? Some amazing things in here.
https://youtu.be/kZFEcqo80h8

WE. DON'T. TECH. THOSE.