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Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Miiverse Update Thread XVI
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Playing 120 (?) versus matches unlock everyone.
The12thGripper
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I just sat on my bed for 10 minutes really depressed that Lucas got cut but I'm ok now. I'll still very much miss him but I'll get by. I have Little Mac. 
I forget who in the game was the one who named him that. Was it palutena?
Lucky you then.
has anyone called dibs on Larry yet?
GiantBreadbug
Member
Hold on a second! What's this ?
If only ;;
Lucky you then.
Lemmy looks great!
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
Hey, you're my first opponent in the Super Bash Sisters. I feel for you; my brother's main in Brawl was Lucas. He will be missed.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Immaculate
Banned
Why does sakurai hate one of the most requested characters since brawl? :/
kuroneko0509
Member
There's an incomplete one on reddit I found:
http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2g4dvs/ok_so_what_were_the_unlock_requirements_for_the/
Only one missing is ROB in the post (probably just not updated yet). There's a lot of requirements that are just flat out Classic Mode lol. I'm sure you can unlock everybody by playing VS matches, though, as well -- I'm just wondering what Wario's alternate method of unlocking is? It can't just be VS matches for him.
Blooddimond
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I don't think the 3DS is datamineable yet. I might be wrong on that though
The game isn't even out yet lol. It won't be for at least a few days after it releases in japan.
MannyToons
Member
Lucky you then.
You know, I find it pretty funny how all the Koopalings are essentially the same size in Smash despite having largely different body types. I guess that's what happens when you use one set character as the base.
Great work, as usual.
Online counts, too, I'm guessing?
Are there no other ways? Smash Run or anything?
EDIT: Nvm, just saw Revven's post.
LonelyGreyWolf
Banned
Did someone post a full list of the playable characters?
Jawmuncher
Member
Why does sakurai not bring back the character that opened up third party in the first place?
In his head he has his reasons.
There is other ways, look at the reddit link above.
Shadow Hog
Member
A case of subpixels and mismatched resolutions!Hold on a second! What's this ?
shaowebb
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Got Confirmation Ganondorf's jumping stomp is unchanged from Brawl so no speed buff there. Still we got the following buffs:
...so I can't complain. I'm asking now to see if his aerial Flame Choke aka THE CHOKENDORF was given ledge grab properties similar to how it gained those properties in Project M. Dorf had no ups and didn't really have great Side recovery so having recovery on The Chokendorf was very useful. Here's hoping he has that for recovery. If not...at least he got BEAST buffs.
...so I can't complain. I'm asking now to see if his aerial Flame Choke aka THE CHOKENDORF was given ledge grab properties similar to how it gained those properties in Project M. Dorf had no ups and didn't really have great Side recovery so having recovery on The Chokendorf was very useful. Here's hoping he has that for recovery. If not...at least he got BEAST buffs.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I could see this working but my stance with rumors is pretty much sticking with 51 characters (as we already knew) and expecting nothing more.
Because the release date stopped people from getting a copy early, or something?
First time I've heard of that.
I must be really easy to please, because all the new stages look great, and the retro courses are mostly acceptable. What were you people looking for here?
Unfortunately they are random. Unless I'm mistaken, I saw a character go through Classic Mode and they accumulated prizes including red icons for Bowser and Yoshi which are supposed to be custom moves. The player was Sonic.
And speaking of Little Mac alts, I guess it's true that there's 8 Wireframe Macs. I remember seeing Wireframe Mac wearing yellow shorts in a match.
OmegaSmash
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Does it say if his utilt is still useless?
Rob is 70 VS matches. I think it's presumed that finishing classic with everyone is also an option, but idk if it's been verified.
If you're talking about Ridley he's been pretty highly requested since before Melee.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Someone did unlocked ROB, hence people being upset with the roster, and I watched two people playing with Angry Bird online.
Blooddimond
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I know with pokemon people haven't been able to exploit the system for perfect stats yet at the very least, which I assume would use similar methods as datamining (though this was at x/y's release, might've changed by now)
Beelzebufo
Banned
ROB is 70 vs matches, and I heard Wario was Multi Man Smash?
Do we have any good video of Wario by the way?
Neoriceisgood
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balladofwindfishes
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If we know the order of vs mode games needed to unlock characters, we may have the order they'll be officially revealed in.
No download play iirc.
Chaotic-Strike
Banned
Someone needs to gather all the videos thus far and put them into one spot so we can see some character changes.
OrangeGrayBlue
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I guess I'll weigh in with my thoughts now that the dust is settling:
I'm really glad ROB is back. With Little Mac and Duck Hunt, that's a pretty nice trifecta of NES nostalgia. I never had any attachment to Ice Climbers or even Pit prior to their smash inclusions, but the three I mentioned above actually have some childhood memories tied to them, which is nice. I like the changes they gave to ROB as well. The fully charged laser looks properly intimidating now. I haven't seen his FS yet but I hear it's been changed. I'm happy with that because his original FS wasn't very useful.
I really like how Bowser Jr. was handled. From the final smash to the moveset to all the koopaling alts (I will be using Ludwig) the character was executed impeccably. I'm really excited to see their custom moves too.
Duck Hunt Dog (I like the name better with dog on the end, sorry) is just what everyone else has been saying: Banjo-Kazooie. I love the dynamic with the dog and ducks and they're really adorable to just watch move around. The final smash is brilliant for the inclusion of the dog laughing. If it weren't for the leak, I think seeing Duck hunt dog show up unexpectedly would have destroyed this thread last night. I really think that leak is the cause of much disappointment right now. Without it, duck hunt dog would have been an amazing surprise.
I like Wario's new character model a lot. He looks a little more sinister which is good for him. Haven't seen him in action yet though.
Dark Pit... Eh, my only real disappointment. Dr. Mario and Lucina are fine by me because Lucina makes sense as a clone and Dr. Mario is a returning fan favorite with a slightly different moveset anyway, but there's really no reason Dark Pit shouldn't just be an alt color like Dark Link. I get that he was probably a quick way to add a character, but it almost feels like cheating.
I guess I'll rank newcomers, trying not to let the newness of duck hunt and Bowser Jr cloud my judgment. I am considering how much I like the characters outside of smash as well as how well they were implemented in the game.
1) Little Mac
2) Duck Hunt
3) Pac-Man
4) Rosalina & Luma
5) Bowser Jr & Koopalings
6) Villager
7) Mega Man
8) Greninja
9) Mii Fighters
10) Robin
11) Palutena
12) Wii Fit Trainer
13) Shulk
14) Lucina
15) Dark Pit
I'm hoping for DLC around the time of Wii U release
I'm really glad ROB is back. With Little Mac and Duck Hunt, that's a pretty nice trifecta of NES nostalgia. I never had any attachment to Ice Climbers or even Pit prior to their smash inclusions, but the three I mentioned above actually have some childhood memories tied to them, which is nice. I like the changes they gave to ROB as well. The fully charged laser looks properly intimidating now. I haven't seen his FS yet but I hear it's been changed. I'm happy with that because his original FS wasn't very useful.
I really like how Bowser Jr. was handled. From the final smash to the moveset to all the koopaling alts (I will be using Ludwig) the character was executed impeccably. I'm really excited to see their custom moves too.
Duck Hunt Dog (I like the name better with dog on the end, sorry) is just what everyone else has been saying: Banjo-Kazooie. I love the dynamic with the dog and ducks and they're really adorable to just watch move around. The final smash is brilliant for the inclusion of the dog laughing. If it weren't for the leak, I think seeing Duck hunt dog show up unexpectedly would have destroyed this thread last night. I really think that leak is the cause of much disappointment right now. Without it, duck hunt dog would have been an amazing surprise.
I like Wario's new character model a lot. He looks a little more sinister which is good for him. Haven't seen him in action yet though.
Dark Pit... Eh, my only real disappointment. Dr. Mario and Lucina are fine by me because Lucina makes sense as a clone and Dr. Mario is a returning fan favorite with a slightly different moveset anyway, but there's really no reason Dark Pit shouldn't just be an alt color like Dark Link. I get that he was probably a quick way to add a character, but it almost feels like cheating.
I guess I'll rank newcomers, trying not to let the newness of duck hunt and Bowser Jr cloud my judgment. I am considering how much I like the characters outside of smash as well as how well they were implemented in the game.
1) Little Mac
2) Duck Hunt
3) Pac-Man
4) Rosalina & Luma
5) Bowser Jr & Koopalings
6) Villager
7) Mega Man
8) Greninja
9) Mii Fighters
10) Robin
11) Palutena
12) Wii Fit Trainer
13) Shulk
14) Lucina
15) Dark Pit
I'm hoping for DLC around the time of Wii U release
Gorestrafe
Neo Member
If I had it my way, Fox would be the only StarFox character on the selection screen and Falco and Wolf would be selectable as alts.
Obviously it wouldn't make sense for Ganondorf to be a Capt. Falcon alt, hence why he needs his own moveset. His clone moves could be reworked into another F-Zero character, like Black Bull, but that will never happen.
PadWarrior
Member
That fzero stage is nice
No, but very few people have gotten early copies. The odds that people with those early copies are also the people who would datamine the game are incredibly low.
imabeast78
Neo Member
Combining Sakurai's madness for content with the ability to sync up both versions and more incentive to purchase both versions is just crazy enough to work. Not to mention 3 of those characters would satisfy so many different people based on past games and how much they are requested. That's the kind of thing that could inject more hype into the the wii u version release after the 3ds version is already out and we think we know all the characters. With the DLC they've been doing recently for other games we would certainly not be shocked if there is DLC ahead of us and long term support.
ActStriker
Member
Poor OT is left in the dust
Haha, giving everyone else a chance against you, right?
I'm excited to find out if any of the custom moves are really worth it. Hopefully people find some cool uses for 'em.
Exactly, I may not like the game as much as PM, but I'm going to destroy so many people online with Dr. Mario and Ness.
Custom moves are shaping up to be one of the best additions to the series if you ask me, I can't wait to see if any of them have their own unique ATs, it's going to make the same 2 characters possibly play completely differently.
I mean, if you swapped all four specials on a character for custom ones, you practically have a melee-level clone right there and then, it's pretty exciting.
I wonder if this thread will survive until tomorrow.
I'm gonna guess no. But it could slow down now that we have the roster confirmed, plus most of Japan is asleep.
Fidelis Hodie
Infidelis Cras
Oooph, top 3 mains is so hard. Started competitive with brawl, got into melee (L cancels and wave dashes galore) because of Project M over the past year, so I'm not even sure where I lay any more.
I'll split this up into new comers and old timers.
True Main Predictions (Oldies)
1. Olimar
- My brawl main, even love him in P:M. Very excited to see what they've done, hopefully the whistle still has it's invincibility and thank god for a better recovery.
2. Shiek
- If the rumors of Shiek feeling like melee are true, it'll be impossible not to have a pocket one ready to switch up on matchups. Good god, just thinking about being a Dueling OLI-SHIEK main just makes me excited.
3. Jigglypuff
- Kind of a long shot, but easily my favorite Melee character next to Marth, it's hard not to hope she'll be viable again.
True Main Predictions (Newbies)
1. Shulk
- Is one of my favorite protaganists ever from one of my favorite RPG's ever. Spaces like marth but with a super technical, almost pikmin plucking like changeset. Yeah. Sounds amazing to me.
2. Villager
- Watching the demo streams, I can already feel the gyroid canceling and Fair/Bair antics of this wacky guy as my early favorite. Seems quick enough, love his pocket, love his mobility, love his ariels . . I hope we have a long road ahead of us.
3. Robin
- See #1 mainly here, I just love Fire Emblem (and subsequently Awakening) too much to not fall in love with the character. Can't believe we got Robin instead of Chrom! Hopefully he turns out to be exactly what he looks like; a viable Ness with great hand to hand options.
Overall, I just hope it feels like Project M in the way that I can legitimately use 3/4ths of the roster, no problem.
Okay I'm done, back to work.
(yeah right)
I'll split this up into new comers and old timers.
True Main Predictions (Oldies)
1. Olimar
- My brawl main, even love him in P:M. Very excited to see what they've done, hopefully the whistle still has it's invincibility and thank god for a better recovery.
2. Shiek
- If the rumors of Shiek feeling like melee are true, it'll be impossible not to have a pocket one ready to switch up on matchups. Good god, just thinking about being a Dueling OLI-SHIEK main just makes me excited.
3. Jigglypuff
- Kind of a long shot, but easily my favorite Melee character next to Marth, it's hard not to hope she'll be viable again.
True Main Predictions (Newbies)
1. Shulk
- Is one of my favorite protaganists ever from one of my favorite RPG's ever. Spaces like marth but with a super technical, almost pikmin plucking like changeset. Yeah. Sounds amazing to me.
2. Villager
- Watching the demo streams, I can already feel the gyroid canceling and Fair/Bair antics of this wacky guy as my early favorite. Seems quick enough, love his pocket, love his mobility, love his ariels . . I hope we have a long road ahead of us.
3. Robin
- See #1 mainly here, I just love Fire Emblem (and subsequently Awakening) too much to not fall in love with the character. Can't believe we got Robin instead of Chrom! Hopefully he turns out to be exactly what he looks like; a viable Ness with great hand to hand options.
Overall, I just hope it feels like Project M in the way that I can legitimately use 3/4ths of the roster, no problem.
Okay I'm done, back to work.
(yeah right)
I forgot how punny the dialogue is is this game. The voice acting was good, but what they were reading wasn't
Jawmuncher
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If only they released a demo for everyone.
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