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Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Miiverse Update Thread XVI

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My really ugly rearrangement of the roster. It took me about ten minutes to finalize, so I don't know why the official placement is so arbitrary, as it stands.

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As you can see, Mario characters comprise the entire top row, all the Fire Emblem characters are together, the NES/retro characters are together, Pokémon are at the start of a row rather than in the middle of it, and dark pit is with the other Kid Icarus characters all while maintaining the same format.

I would also maybe swap ROB and Shulk just because it makes more sense for ROB to be next to Pac-Man, in my mind.

Did Sakurai really butcher the arrangement so badly just to keep Kirby in the middle?
 
My really ugly rearrangement of the roster. It took me about ten minutes to finalize, so I don't know why the official placement is so arbitrary, as it stands.

super_smash_bros_roster.png



As you can see, Mario characters comprise the entire top row, all the Fire Emblem characters are together, the NES characters are together, Pokémon are at the start of a row rather than in the middle of it, and dark pit is with the other Kid Icarus characters all while maintaining the same format.

I would also maybe swap ROB and Shulk just because it makes more sense for ROB to be next to Pac-Man, in my mind.

Did Sakurai really butcher the arrangement so badly just to keep Kirby in the middle?
You have to rearrange the last row to be in chronological order, that's the order they're in.
 
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Xpike

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I just realized Magicant is probably representing the GBA Mother 1+2 game. rip Mother 3.
 
Eh, I just think Bowser Jr and the Koopalings are too popular to get cut next time. Same with Lucina.

Of FE characters I could only....maybe see Robin being replaced with the next customizable Tactician but even then I'm unsure.

Its weird, we are are to expect cuts next game, I don't see any characters that are likely to get cut anymore. In Brawl, you could see some semi-clones or Snake because of Konami but for Smash 4 everyone just seems unlikely to get cut imo except for Dr. Mario and Dark Pit...but Sakurai bias lol. (For Dark Pit.)

Anyone representing their own franchise and/or has a unique moveset won't get cut imo. So stuff like DH, LM, Villager, Shulk, etc would be safe. I don't see any third parties refusing next go around...I don't see any possible cuts next go around except like I said, Doc and DP.

We shall see. I eagerly await the next Smash and the next SmashGAF. D:

i get that they are popular but honestly various factors could happen that would make them unfortunate cuts (again this is all just speculation)

honestly despite me liking lucina a lot i personally think she would be the easiest to replace since she is after all just a marth clone (which is why im hoping she gets a revamp in the next smash if she does come back and is based around the dual mechanic in some shape or form) same could also be said for dr mario, and dp as well

i also agree that single rep franchises could stay but again the large roster of smash i think will always lead to some form of cut or unfortunate change

(just trying to look at things realstically and with time/money and man power in mind :) )
 
Onett will probably be back. They seem to really like that stage and it's an easy port from Brawl. I think the WiiU will have a lot more stages, with a more Brawl style mix of retro and new stages
 
As for new MOTHER stages, here's my ideas (also I hope New Pork City wasn't cut just for the Ultimate Chimera, music, and memories ;_; )

MOTHER: The Mother's Day/Podunk Zoo

MOTHER 2/Earthbound: Winters

MOTHER 3: Tanetane Island (all drugged up version)
 
Besides: why bring back New Pork City if Lucas got canned and a majority of people didn't like the stage?

I actually thought about this and was left with the thought that the only 2 Brawl Mario stages that would work as retro stages on the 3DS were Mushroomy Kingdom and Luigi's Mansion.

Delphino is too intensive and detailed
Mario Kart is redundant
Rainbow Cruise might not translate well to the 3DS and they already had plenty of Melee stages.

Why they picked Mushroomy Kingdom over Luigi's Mansion is anyone's guess.
 
As for new MOTHER stages, here's my ideas (also I hope New Pork City wasn't cut just for the Ultimate Chimera, music, and memories ;_; )

MOTHER: The Mother's Day/Podunk Zoo

MOTHER 2/Earthbound: Winters

MOTHER 3: Tanetane Island (all drugged up version)

Mt. Itoi would make for a kickass stage, I'd think.
 
Still not confident the Wii U version will get any Melee stages.
I remember people saying this about brawl stages on the 3ds and here we are

They're not going to not bring Temple back, so there's one melee level already. Onett is pretty much a staple of the series at this point, and Mother's most iconic level in Smash.
 

Toad.T

Banned
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I'm not sure if Little Mac precedes Duck Hunt, but otherwise that should be chronological. Now, why Sakurai has it arranged the way he does instead of like this is a theory I'd love to hear.

This looks much more apealling than what we have now, IMO, There's a clear line as to where things begin and end, like Brawl and 64.
 

Masked Man

I said wow
I still want Viridi as her own Smash character. :(

This a thousand times. In a game with an incredible cast of characters, she still manages to stand out. Viridi for Smash 6! :D

Alright, for the hell of it I'm compiling a list of 3DS stage music that I've identified so far. Feel free to let me know if I missed anything and I'll edit it in.

Rainbow Road
-Rainbow Road Handheld Medley (New)
-Rainbow Road (Mario Kart 7) (Original?)

Unova Pokemon League
-N's Castle Theme? (New)
-Battle!! VS Reshiram/Zekrom (New)

Spirit Train
-Full Steam Ahead (New)
-Legend of Zelda Medley (New)

Boxing Ring
-Running / Countdown Medley (New)
-Minor Circuit Punch-Out! Wii) (Original)


Pac-Maze
-Pac-Man Club Mix (New)
-Namco Medley? (New) <- not 100% sure

*Original versions of the songs arranged in a new way

I added the missing tracks I can confirm in bold! :D
 
Why not? The 3DS has gotten a mix of Brawl and Melee stages, so it stands to reason the Wii U will, too.
Originally, Sakurai gave the impression the 3DS version wasn't going to receive any Brawl stages, so something changed along the way:

As a result of developing for two platforms, however, Sakurai suggested there are limitations, including the dream of levels from Super Smash Bros Brawl (from the Wii) appearing in the latest Super Smash Bros game.

"If we did do that," said Sakurai, "stuff that was on Wii would have to be altered to be put on a 3DS. You’d have to make some tweaks. Whether or not you’d do that and still do those justice remains to be seen. We’re going to have to look at that."
http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1972435/super_smash_bros_the_difference_between_wii_u_3ds_versions.html

I still feel we'll get a mixture of new stages with past Brawl stages with the ration leaning higher to new stages.
 

I'M FINISHED!

Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
Unless Nintendo release more characters via DLC on the Wii U version release date (or do some stupid shit as obligating people to buy both versions to have all characters), yes, that is the final roster.

hahahahahahaha *coughs* hahahahahahaha *stops fake laughing and picks nose*

That would be too good. teehee
 
Originally, Sakurai gave the impression the 3DS version wasn't going to receive any Brawl stages, so something changed along the way:

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1972435/super_smash_bros_the_difference_between_wii_u_3ds_versions.html

I still feel we'll get a mixture of new stages with past Brawl stages with the ration leaning higher to new stages.

I agree - mostly Brawl stages for the Wii U, with a couple Melee stages. I think Onett is likely, and perhaps Rainbow Cruise or Green Greens. My gut tells me Palutena's Temple has put the original Temple on ice.
 

Ozium

Member
Have we started guessing who will be cut in the next smash?

I already know dark pit is at the top of the list for most.

if Sakurai is involved with the next Smash then Dark Pit won't be cut.. if anything he will add Pseudo-Palutena as another roster character.

The KI:U overload is real
 

Cse

Banned
I agree - mostly Brawl stages for the Wii U, with a couple Melee stages. I think Onett is likely, and perhaps Rainbow Cruise or Green Greens. My gut tells me Palutena's Temple has put the original Temple on ice.

We got 6 Brawl stages and 3 Melee stages for the 3DS version, so I hope the inverse is true for the Wii U version.

I would definitely like to see some 64 stages return as well, such as Hyrule Castle.
 

RagnarokX

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I'm not sure if Little Mac precedes Duck Hunt, but otherwise that should be chronological. Now, why Sakurai has it arranged the way he does instead of like this is a theory I'd love to hear.

I don't get it. If they're ordered chronologically within franchise, Bowser Jr should go before Rosalina; and if you consider the koopalings, they should go before Yoshi, though Yoshi should be last because he has his own icon (Yoshi series).

Jigglypuff should go before Lucario.
 
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