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Super Smash Bros. for Wii U POTD Thread 17: Smash 3DS Discussion @ OT PLS

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boiled goose

good with gravy
Yes. I know know controversial opinion etc etc, 3DS version is and will always be my "main" so to speak since I vastly prefer handhelds. If they were releasing 3 years apart and were treated as 100% seperate games and any possible 3DS DLC was long since done then I wouldn't be upset, because it would be the sequel to the 3DS version. But each while each has exclusive modes and stages, they are in the end much much closer to being essentially the same game then they are seperate.

I like to play as all the characters from time to time. If WiiU got exclusive characters then I'd be pissed. But I am 100% sure by this point that any upcoming DLC characters will be on both versions. Sakurai isn't going to go through the effort to make the rosters the same to then not make them the same.

The WiiU version will most likely be the best version overall, not to me since I prefer handhelds, and also I feel like the controller on 3DS is fantastic. (I even played Brawl with a WiiMote.) and I prefer the "3D" of 3DS to the HD of WiiU, tho obviously the graphics are better on WiiU. But unless they severily screw up Special Order and Smash World, then WiiU will most likely have more fun stuff to do, but I just plain don't like playing console games and only do it for titles I hope to really really enjoy. WiiU is much better in that regard due to off tv play, but I like getting into the game asap and on 3DS all have to do is open the lid when I'm playng to be back in the game. Even with the Quickstart menu the WiiU still takes forever to get in a game. So all those combined is why I prefer 3DS. I'm sure others prefer 3DS for much simpler reasons: Its alot cheaper to buy. Which is why its sold alot more than WiiU.

Is it fair for WiiU owners to not get a character that can't work on another sysem? No. But it is also not fair for 3DS to be left out on characters when they were developed at the same time and run on the same engine. Either way people get pissed off, and Sakurai made his decision to have both rosters the same.


Edit: Holy shit at the Duck Hunt argument. The hunter is part of the team people. #Truthfact

Well be pissed off then. No reason they cant be separate games. The more they change or add to make wiiu better, the better.

I really wish they hadn't talked about parity. This wouldn't be an issue. Console version should be bigger and the definitive version. It has less restrictions after all.

The only things exclusive to 3ds should be portable features like street pass.
 

shaowebb

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If the 50 new things deal with the Smash direct actually is just them naming Amiibo specific perks for the roster one at a time I'd be cool with it. Other than the fact that I can take my custom version of a fighter from one house to the next (which I wont run into often at all) I haven't seen a whole lot of clear reason shown for why Amiibo's should be a big deal.

Can Amiibos give me alt outfits otherwise unavailable in the game? How about custom moves that others can't unlock in game that I can only use if I had the Amiibo? Perhaps an Amiibo comes with additional assist trophies or items I can summon in a match that aren't normally something that drops.

Throw me a bone here Nintendo...I'm buying a few Amiibos to pretty much have as statues of my main cast, but I really need some more juicy reasons to own these considering not a single Nintendo game they are supposed to work with have given me any further explanations or incentives to make excited for Amiibos being something I can get into.

The value behind tokens or characters in Skylanders and Disney Infinity is made pretty clear is all I'm saying...Nintendo hasn't really made it clear just what these Amiibo do that is worth $12 to the average consumer considering everything the Amiibos use is stuff they will already get to play as/with in Smash without it. And no...AI isn't really going to sell them. Just look at shadow packs in MVC3 to figure out how much folks care for AI changing DLC.
 
So the first Monday after Smash 3DS my first streetpass came with a Smash streetpass. Since then though I've streetpassed over 10 people some through 2 relays and while I've gotten streetpasses for a bunch of different games (even LEGO City and Tekken which have been a while) I've gotten no Smash ones again.

What's weird is that at least 5 of them had their last played game as Smash 3DS. So have all these people just not bothered to setup Smash streetpass or is something else going on?

I mean the relay stations should have had a bunch of Smash streetpasses stored up.

Just want to know if anyone else is having any issues?
 
Well be pissed off then. No reason they cant be separate games. The more they change or add to make wiiu better, the better.

I really wish they hadn't talked about parity. This wouldn't be an issue. Console version should be bigger and the definitive version. It has less restrictions after all.

The only things exclusive to 3ds should be portable features like street pass.
Absolutely. Sakurai himself brought up the "true potential of Smash" when talking about Wii U features. Ice Climbers should not have been cut to compensate for a weaker system.


The song we need for Sonic. It represents the quality of the series.
 
At the very least I'd love to see:

-Aquatic Ruin Zone
-Planet Wisp
-Angel Island Brawl Remix
-Hydrocity Zone
-Hill Top Zone
-Mushroom Forest Zone
-Rooftop Run (Sonic Generations Modern arrangement, preferably)
-Can You Feel the Sunshine
-City Escape/Live and Learn
-Sky Chase Zone/Wing Fortress
-Ice Cap Zone

We all know Sonic Heroes will pop in to ruin the fun, but any of the above songs will lessen the pain.
 
sonic heroes has some good music and cool locations but first sega needs to find someone who's played past ocean palace to choose such content, and they seem to have quite some trouble doing so
 
Yup. Can't wait.

sonic heroes has some good music and cool locations but first sega needs to find someone who's played past ocean palace to choose such content, and they seem to have quite some trouble doing so

The music is literally the only good thing I remember about that game.

just that main theme

my god
 

Slash14

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Hi, im new in the forum. Just want to show you the bonus you get if you pre order Smash Wii U in Peru.

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Sorry if i break some rule posting this link.
Neat! Here's the bonus you get if you preorder Super Smash Bros. for Wii U in the US.

That is so much better than the nothing that I get when I preorder in the US.

NOA been letting me down on preorder bonuses / collector's editions.
Damn it.
 

Kjellson

Member
I actually thought it was a real hand at first because I saw it on my phone and I thought it was a joke someone posted because it reminded me of the joke pic with the pic of a 3DS posted here a while ago.
 
I actually thought it was a real hand at first because I saw it on my phone and I thought it was a joke someone posted because it reminded me of the joke pic with the pic of a 3DS posted here a while ago.
Same, especially with the censoring. Took it way out of context. :lol
 

Zubz

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It's Cereza and the secret character is Bayonetta, and to keep the rating acceptable she changed her guns for Zappers. <3

On a scale from 1 to 10, I'd be Antarctic-tier cool with this.

And all this talk about Sonic music is breaking my heart. We all know that the only stage we're getting is Windy Hill, and that all the music's just going to be Windy Hill and the main theme to, like, every Sonic game between Brawl and now, with a few older ones haphazardly slapped on for good measure, like Sonic Heroes. Just watch; only one song's going to be a remix, too. My guess is on Windy Hill 1.

Sonic's known for amazing soundtracks and spectacular locations, but it looks like we're just getting "Generic Sonic Level 1" twice here. As people've said, a Casino Night Zone or Egg Fleet/Death Egg stage would be phenomenal, and are definitely among my highest choices for DLC stages, alongside Sunset Shore and Fountain of Dreams from Melee, but the one I hands-down want the most would be Stardust Speedway. It might be too visually-busy for a level, but I don't care. Work in the Time Travel aspect and there's no way they can go wrong!
... Wily Castle was the stage I was hoping for the most in Brawl, and now it's one of my least-favorite stages in 4, so I can see it easily going wrong, actually.
 
Does it bother anyone else that Sakurai is acting like we don't already know DHD is in the game? Why waste the time "unveiling" a character that has already been played by millions?

It's not like most people getting it on the Wii U don't already have it on 3DS.
 

ffdgh

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Does it bother anyone else that Sakurai is acting like we don't already know DHD is in the game? Why waste the time "unveiling" a character that has already been played by millions?

It's not like most people getting it on the Wii U don't already have it on 3DS.

Look at it this way. Every other newcomer got a reveal video and it gives us a chance to see them in HD.
 
Does it bother anyone else that Sakurai is acting like we don't already know DHD is in the game? Why waste the time "unveiling" a character that has already been played by millions?

It's not like most people getting it on the Wii U don't already have it on 3DS.
This is the same guy who censored Orders as if it was a spoiler. So I would not think too much about it.
 
Look at it this way. Every other newcomer got a reveal video and it gives us a chance to see them in HD.

It's still not very hype...

He should have just shown off all the characters pre-3DS release and focused on advertising Wii U unique content post-3DS release.

This is the same guy who censored Orders as if it was a spoiler. So I would not think too much about it.

I guess that's true. Just a bit annoying.
 

georly

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Does it bother anyone else that Sakurai is acting like we don't already know DHD is in the game? Why waste the time "unveiling" a character that has already been played by millions?

It's not like most people getting it on the Wii U don't already have it on 3DS.

Like I said before, either it shows off some unannounced feature/DLC, or sakurai has wasted a huge hype opportunity.

I guess we could see it as the 'tv spot' for smash, just to garner more hype for people who haven't bought it yet.
 

Jawmuncher

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It's still not very hype...

He should have just shown off all the characters pre-3DS release and focused on advertising Wii U unique content post-3DS release.



I guess that's true. Just a bit annoying.

In the same boat.
Don't mind but I really hope the DHD reveal isn't going to be the closing of the direct.
That will mean disappointment city unless that reveal hints at something.
 
In the same boat.
Don't mind but I really hope the DHD reveal isn't going to be the closing of the direct.
That will mean disappointment city unless that reveal hints at something.

Exactly. I'll be fine if Sakurai pulls the rug out from under our feet with a "This is what you were expecting, but ha! Look at this!" That would be hype city.

Unfortunately I've gotten my hopes up one too many times for this game to expect much.
 

SoldnerKei

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I guess there is not much point in holding back those obvious newcomers videos anymore, but I know they will

do we know how long will this direct be?
 
i'm not sure where the disappointment with DHD/maybe BJ trailers is coming from

like, what are the other options? don't give them trailers at all? plop them on the website with no buildup? i'd rather they have been released before the game too, but this is just how sakurai is with secret characters.

the presence or absence of their trailers isn't gonna detract from anything else in the stream.
 
I'm still holding on to some kind of hope that we would watch the Direct and it would end with a surprise trailer for Ice Climbers as Wii U exclusives.

I can dream...
 
Am I the only one who's perfectly fine with Windy Hill as the stage?

I like it, obviously its another location that's channelling Green Hill Zone at its core but the small visual changes make it seem that little bit fresher, it's got a nice sense of style to it.
Perhaps it's bit plain considering the wealth of options available for the series but none the less it represents the series well.
 

Azure J

Member
Am I the only one who's perfectly fine with Windy Hill as the stage?

Windy Hill is the best/second best (Angel Island) variant of the Sonic series' green verdant starting stages visually imo. As such seeing how it is in Smash U (especially with the notable lack of walk-offs or camping spots, aka a higher chance of seeing it regularly), I'm soooooo happy it's in.
 

Dr. Buni

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Am I the only one who's perfectly fine with Windy Hill as the stage?
No, I am okay with it as well. It looks gorgeous.

I wish Sonic had two new stages though, with the second being based on the "Biolizard" from Sonic Adventures 02, with the said boss in the background.

At the very least, I would like the song "Supporting Me..." to be in the game ):
 

Neoxon

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Windy Hill is the best/second best (Angel Island) variant of the Sonic series' green verdant starting stages visually imo. As such seeing how it is in Smash U (especially with the notable lack of walk-offs or camping spots, aka a higher chance of seeing it regularly), I'm soooooo happy it's in.
I really liked Lost World's more simplistic art style, & it translated well into Smash U.

If we did get a second Sonic stage to honor the fact that Sonic is a third-party veteran, I'd prefer that stage to be either from Sonic Adventure 2 or Colors.
 
In the same boat.
Don't mind but I really hope the DHD reveal isn't going to be the closing of the direct.
That will mean disappointment city unless that reveal hints at something.
I will be pretty happy if the Duck Hunt (dog/duo) trailer starts the Direct.
Am I the only one who's perfectly fine with Windy Hill as the stage?
The answer to "am I the only one..." questions will almost always be no.
Wind Hill is a cool stage, and I think it looks cooler than Green Hill Zone. So far, the only stage on Wii U I don't like is Pac Land.
With the Parity Brigade that's one hell of a dream now.
DLC dreams...
Though I think the chances for Ice Climbers are minimal, I think they're much higher than Ridley's chances of being on the roster.
 
i'm not sure where the disappointment with DHD/maybe BJ trailers is coming from

like, what are the other options? don't give them trailers at all? plop them on the website with no buildup? i'd rather they have been released before the game too, but this is just how sakurai is with secret characters.

the presence or absence of their trailers isn't gonna detract from anything else in the stream.

It totally takes away from the presentation. This is not a case where "you're getting more!" If you're going to advertise 50 things I don't know, then give me 50 things I don't know.

It would be like Apple making a trailer for the iPhone 7 and advertising that you can play music. Sure, it's a feature, but not one that needs to be advertised.
 
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