LectureMaster
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A lowkey trusted developer from Install Base responded to an user claiming that Switch 2 wouldn't get AAA games and that the System would be weak and he responded:
He added:
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Switch 2 Developer claims that "The hardware is very capable"
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A lowkey trusted developer from Install Base responded to an user claiming that Switch 2 wouldn't get AAA games and that the System would be weak and he responded:
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kiphalfton
Member
Switch is capable of running multiplatform games.
Didn't mean it did it well.
Didn't mean it did it well.
Mister Wolf
Member
We will finally get DLSS on console. Will be interesting to see Switch 2 ports of games vs PC port running on Steam Deck and ROG Ally X using FSR.
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Jubenhimer
Member
This. Nobody expected titles like Doom and Witcher III to come to Switch at all. While they may not be the "best" versions in terms of performance and graphics, they were often perfectly serviceable for what they were.
I imagine Switch 2 will be more of the same, if a little better since third parties won't be late to the party this time.
existensmaximum
Member
Because, Nintendo? And because of the handheld power constraints.
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LectureMaster
Gold Member
"Switch 2 very capable of running top graphics AAA games."
What I expect:
What we will get:
What I expect:
What we will get:
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Sebastian1295
Member
The switch 2 will most likely be in between a ps4 pro and series s power wise if i had to guess and that's fine as long as they have a good upscaler at work for their games. Alot of switch games look terrible on a 4k screen and it's because of the resolution and the lack of anti-aliasing which is extremely noticeable on a big tv. I'd also like games to have a locked framerate which i feel like is a fair ask. Otherwise the art style of nintendo games tends to look great by itself and it can cover alot of flaws that realistic looking games otherwise couldn't hide as well.
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Sure they will make sure that the hardware will be profitable & not something that's going to run them in the hole but it's going to be modern hardware so it's going to be capable of pushing nice looking games for a few years.
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Hero_Select
Member
I mean so long as it's on par (and we expect it to be better than) a Steam Deck then I don't see why not? Steam Deck can already run a lot of AAA games, the Switch 2 will as well.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
A PS4 Pro? I doubt it’s that powerful. Much closer to a base PS4, but with a more advanced feature set and AI upscaling.
Zannegan
Member
I'm sure it is very capable. That doesn"t mean it will meet the expectations of forum enthusiasts, but that it's strong enough to get down-ports from current gen consoles, and it'll be a nice jump up for first party Nibtendo games.
DLSS will help, but it's not about to close the gap between $400-500 mobile hardware and a full console in the same price range.
DLSS will help, but it's not about to close the gap between $400-500 mobile hardware and a full console in the same price range.
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Sebastian1295
Member
If it's close to a base ps4 in terms of graphics then that's pretty pathetic not going to lie especially cause this machine will have to last past the 2030s. I know the switch 2 is portable but good grief that's not even outdated tech, it's prehistoric tech at this stage. I doubt the switch 2 will even hit past 1080p 60fps for alot of games if that's the case.
Playboi Carti
Member
Still gonna be worse than a Series S and Series S is garbage already
Hawk The Slayer
Member
Definitely stronger than the PS4 and with the current tech and optimization, it should be further improved even. I wanna see a new big budget Zelda game in all it's glory on it.
MiguelItUp
Member
It'll still sell really well and be a solid device, just like the Switch. A stronger Switch with a noticeable hardware upgrade will make a lot of people happy.
Rat Rage
Member
Switch 2 will be more powerful than Switch 1.
The exact amount of more power won't matter to the average consumer, or better to the vast majority of them.
In fact, in the realm of home consoles, more and more ppl simply don't give a shit about more power (see PS5 Pro - which is a flop).
Switch 2 will sell gangbusters due to Nintendo's first party support.
AAA 3rd parties will find ways of downporting their AAA games to Switch 2 because they don't want to miss out on a lot of sales.
Since graphical deminishing returns are already here, there will be less differences between AAA games and their downported AAA Switch counterparts.
Again, the vast majority of people won't give a shit and more and more ppl will be fine with the downports.
So how much power will the Switch 2 ultimately have? Very simple answer: enough.
The exact amount of more power won't matter to the average consumer, or better to the vast majority of them.
In fact, in the realm of home consoles, more and more ppl simply don't give a shit about more power (see PS5 Pro - which is a flop).
Switch 2 will sell gangbusters due to Nintendo's first party support.
AAA 3rd parties will find ways of downporting their AAA games to Switch 2 because they don't want to miss out on a lot of sales.
Since graphical deminishing returns are already here, there will be less differences between AAA games and their downported AAA Switch counterparts.
Again, the vast majority of people won't give a shit and more and more ppl will be fine with the downports.
So how much power will the Switch 2 ultimately have? Very simple answer: enough.
Haint
Member
I'm expecting docked mode to be something between base Xbox One and base PS4 in raw rasterized performance (an 8nm chip underclocked into the dirt), with DLSS pushing upsampled resolutions a little higher, and of course a much better CPU than those Jaguar cores. You can bastardized 99% of current gen games and most future titles to to run on that level of hardware. The old ass Steamdeck already runs 95% of games with little to no special porting efforts required.
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diffusionx
Gold Member
I'm expecting it to be somewhere between a Super Nintendo and a 5090
Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
Should be more powerful than asus rog ally x
Gambit2483
Member
If it's using DLSS 3.5 or higher, it will be more than capable and the true "game changer" Nvidia designed it to be.
fran.fernandez
Member
Less than ps4
Gamerguy84
Member
Of course it will be. I'm sure it's going to have dlss and iits newer tech.
Unknown Soldier
Member
I mean, no one is going to claim it's incapable
Considering what it is, I'm sure the hardware will be just fine for 99% of gamers just as the Switch was
GAF is a tiny miniscule minority of gamers after all
Considering what it is, I'm sure the hardware will be just fine for 99% of gamers just as the Switch was
GAF is a tiny miniscule minority of gamers after all
PendekarRajawali
Member
Who wants to play multi platform games on switch anyway? Except for those who don’t have PC/PS/Xbox.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Haint
Member
LOL mistype, I meant base PS4.
The Z1 Extreme is nearing 9 dual mode teraflops (which is ~4.3 TF's by the single mode metric PS4/Xbone/PS5/Series use). The most pie in the sky hopium for Switch 2 places it around 4.5 dual mode teraflops (~2.2TF by the single mode metric of PS4/Xbone/PS5/Series). And those pie in the sky figures require a 5nm or smaller node clocked to nearly 1.5Ghz. The more likely 8nm @ ~800Ghz figure would produce around 2.5 dual mode teraflops (or 1.25 single mode teraflops). Though supporting dual mode would bump the real world raster performance to somewhere around 1.6TF's, hence why I say somewhere between base Xbox Ones and base PS4.
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ChoosableOne
ChoosableAll
No way. It may not even come close to the Steam Deck. Thanks to DLSS, it will likely run modern games at around 30 FPS, which most people will probably find acceptable.
FalconPunch
Member
Very capable of what? That sentence could mean absolutely anything. The switch was "very capable" and got ports of Fifa, TW3, DOOM, etc.
killatopak
Member
Docked maybe.
If you check out the power consumption of rog and the alleged power limit on portable mode of Switch 2, you’ll understand.
Nintendo chose battery life.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Which is what I want
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
Making bold and edgy statements about things completely open to interpretation, only using very vague and non specific vocabulary.
dano1
A Sheep
Not enough to be a one console system. You might not care about having power to run games at 4k without slowdown but I and many gamers do.
crazyriddler
Member
You are still a minority, ask the 146 million switch users. Anyway we have to see how the hardware behaves, especially with DLSS, at least the horrible image quality of switch games on modern TVs shouldn't be a problem.
SweetTooth
Gold Member
I don't think Switch would need more than 10GB if most games will run at 1080p.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
That's the rumor
Dr.D00p
Member
Big, open world games need lots of RAM.
10GB isn't much when you have to split that between level data and model textures and those textures will have to be of a decent quality to look good in the Switch's 4K docked mode.
...and using DLSS comes with additional memory demands.
spons
Gold Member
The Xbox Series S has 8 GB of dedicated RAM for games and it doesn't even do backwards compatible games properly, unlike the Xbox One X.
For example the One X does 360 games at 4k, while the Series S plays them in One S mode.
Gimping the RAM would be a big issue.
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
Competent devs will sure make good use of it, but if you take into consideration that we live in times where clueless juniors are running the show at the big publishers dev teams, all they really can do is press a compile button in UE5 and have the thing eat away at godless amounts of resources. Nintendo would be wise to eat the cost and go with 16GB or something, but these cheap fucks know very well their loyal customer base buys every piece of shit they spit into the market, so ...
