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Never watched this show, thought it's just another harem in fantasy land anime.
Then it keeps showing up in various anime blogs, now Kotaku.

Gave it a shot. Holy crap. Just did a marathon on Crunchyroll the whole night. How did I miss this? This is good. This is really good.
 
You should be buying the LNs too then! If you can read Japanese I mean.

What level is the language on? Is the book in mostly kanji, or is it primarily hiragana/katakana?

Man. Yall 2 are the only ones that I know that enjoy CF most out of the two. Out of all the songs thus far though I like Yume Sekai the best. It's really well done.

I'm a bigger fan of CF too. The new opening is still pretty good, but I have a fondness for CF.
 
Let me guess. He's going to get raped by someone who turned out to be his sister in game, isn't he?

Why would rape have any part in the story?

What level is the language on? Is the book in mostly kanji, or is it primarily hiragana/katakana?



I'm a bigger fan of CF too. The new opening is still pretty good, but I have a fondness for CF.

I believe it's kanji. I could be wrong.
 
you're not being a dick ..but if a question is asked i'll answer ..it's not like i spoiled anything in my last 2 answer didn't i ?
i'm even considerate enough to tell people to contact me by PM if they want to know more ...
so i'll continue doing what i'm doing while being considerate to everyone enjoyment ( at most ).

For example : chickdigger was refering to the LNs so this was a answer to those..my answer was simple ..for other things i talk about things shown in the anime unless stated by spoilers..

Fair enough!

Might as well ask you then: is the anime supposed to cover the entire LN? Is the LN even over yet? Might pick it up after the series ends depending on how part 2 ends.
 
Fair enough!

Might as well ask you then: is the anime supposed to cover the entire LN? Is the LN even over yet? Might pick it up after the series ends depending on how part 2 ends.

There are at last check 11 volumes of the LN, and weve covered 2 so far. They would have to do multiple seasons to cover more. The LN is still going on.
 
So while it probably not the case technically the girl he saw in a compressed jpeg may not be Asuna but rather someone whose avatar looks coincidentally like hers.

Silly Kirito.

Essentially. However, I'm sure Kirito is desperate at this point so he'll do whatever. Also, there might be people who do use their real faces. lol.

Thanks for the info !

Rewatched 14 right now, it was better. But ugh at 11-13. Keeping 15 for tomorrow.

11-12 is pretty bad. The beginning of 11 was pretty sweet though.
 
Yeah, and thinking again about 13, it was actually pretty funny (1st part)/good.

The bad really just hits when
Yui enters the picture and when they get unbelievably raburabu with each other around the time they suddenly get married. They've seriously started hanging with each other (on a pretty platonic level, too!) what, two months ago? And then Asuna is talking about getting married and getting old together outside. WTF.

I can get behind their relationship, but holy bollocks at the way it escalated uncontrollably, it ruined it for me.
 
Yeah, and thinking again about 13, it was actually pretty funny (1st part)/good.

The bad really just hits when
Yui enters the picture and when they get unbelievably raburabu with each other around the time they suddenly get married. They've seriously started hanging with each other (on a pretty platonic level, too!) what, two months ago? And then Asuna is talking about getting married and getting old together outside. WTF.

I can get behind their relationship, but holy bollocks at the way it escalated uncontrollably, it ruined it for me.

The thing is I could never truly accept how their relationship started out. If I had to justify it, it would be that they are young, they were stuck in a death game and it sorted of helped promote the acceleration for the pursuit of acceptance and company, and Kirito being... well Kirito.

Despite the foundation of their relationship I always found what happened afterwards to be really sweet. It's nice.
 
Just finished watching episode 15. Completely love the new opening and ending themes (even though I'm a fan of LiSA). Can't wait to see where the series goes from here during its last ten eps!
 
Sword Art Online 15:

ARE YOU SERIOUS AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

The series of shameless contrivances leading into the new arc is just magical. Let's break it down:

- Asuna is still unconscious because reasons. Kirito suspects Kayaba even though the dude totally leveled with the both of them in the previous episode.

- the new villain? ASUNA'S BOYFRIEND. Who, of course, can't just be some dude that she was already engaged to, but the creepiest smarmy molester dude possible because anyone else who could possibly ever love Asuna other than Kirito has to be the embodiment of ugliness and perversion and patriarchal control. He licked his fucking lips unironically to express just how evil and creepy he is.

- HE IS GOING TO MARRY ASUNA WHILE SHE IS STILL UNCONSCIOUS. And her father is okay with this.

- oh, and this guy? Just happens to be the guy IN CHARGE OF KEEPING THE SAO SERVERS UP AND RUNNING so that he can conveniently dangle the threat of deleting Asuna's consciousness over Kirito should he attempt to interfere with the wedding.

- and on top of this particular romantic predicament? Kirito's imouto incest subplot what the fuck. No, seriously. WHAT. And she's being presented as a legitimate romantic alternative to Asuna.

- except they're really lolcousins because that's how these incest stories work. Do otaku ever get the real thing, even in the trashiest of trashy LNs?

- and now Kirito's princess is in another castle and he has to dive in and save her in less than a week so she can refuse her fucking disturbing coma marriage to Creeper-san. THAT'S THE PLOT.

It's kind of hard for me to take all of this in. I mean, this is some pretty special stuff.

Also didn't realize that Kirito was so 1%, but damn his home is spacious and well-equipped. I guess everyone who picked up a NerveGear at launch was probably 1% given what the thing probably costs. Just look at Asuna's dad.
 
Episode 5:

Sweet jesus SA:O ass shots are one thing. But shameless repeated ass shots are just plain annoying. At least the cliff hanger ending of this episode was redeeming enough, I love a good mystery.
 
Episode 5:

Sweet jesus SA:O ass shots are one thing. But shameless repeated ass shots are just plain annoying. At least the cliff hanger ending of this episode was redeeming enough, I love a good mystery.

For some reason it's just that episode. Idk what happened.

Packaging for the Japanese Vol 1. Looks sweet. Now we wait for Aniplex USA to release it for us!

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Sword Art Online 15:

ARE YOU SERIOUS AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

The series of shameless contrivances leading into the new arc is just magical. Let's break it down:

- Asuna is still unconscious because reasons. Kirito suspects Kayaba even though the dude totally leveled with the both of them in the previous episode.

- the new villain? ASUNA'S BOYFRIEND. Who, of course, can't just be some dude that she was already engaged to, but the creepiest smarmy molester dude possible because anyone else who could possibly ever love Asuna other than Kirito has to be the embodiment of ugliness and perversion and patriarchal control. He licked his fucking lips unironically to express just how evil and creepy he is.

- HE IS GOING TO MARRY ASUNA WHILE SHE IS STILL UNCONSCIOUS. And her father is okay with this.

- oh, and this guy? Just happens to be the guy IN CHARGE OF KEEPING THE SAO SERVERS UP AND RUNNING so that he can conveniently dangle the threat of deleting Asuna's consciousness over Kirito should he attempt to interfere with the wedding.

- and on top of this particular romantic predicament? Kirito's imouto incest subplot what the fuck. No, seriously. WHAT. And she's being presented as a legitimate romantic alternative to Asuna.

- except they're really lolcousins because that's how these incest stories work. Do otaku ever get the real thing, even in the trashiest of trashy LNs?

- and now Kirito's princess is in another castle and he has to dive in and save her in less than a week so she can refuse her fucking disturbing coma marriage to Creeper-san. THAT'S THE PLOT.

It's kind of hard for me to take all of this in. I mean, this is some pretty special stuff.

Also didn't realize that Kirito was so 1%, but damn his home is spacious and well-equipped. I guess everyone who picked up a NerveGear at launch was probably 1% given what the thing probably costs. Just look at Asuna's dad.

Kirito doesn't suspect kayaba , that was just the general opinion/conclusion of those outsiders that certainly weren't part of the final event that kirito and asuna were a part of.

The new vilain isn't asuna boyfriend.. they met before but that's it ..the guy even told that asuna herself wouldn't agree because they have no feelign for each other.

it's not a mariage ..it's an adoption into a new familly.. he is keeping his daughter alive , you bet the father is okay with this.... i don't even have to add that he was manipulated all those years , right ?

and yes the nervegear is expensive it's the first product of his kind , did you expect anything else ? the first of any kind of new product is ALWAYS expensive
 
it's not a mariage ..it's an adoption into a new familly.. he is keeping his daughter alive , you bet the father is okay with this.... i don't even have to add that he was manipulated all those years , right ?

It most definitely IS a marriage. Just not in the traditional sense, where the girl usually leaves her own family register to enter her husband's. Here, it's the reverse, which isn't that unusual for big families with no male heirs.

But yeah, it's obvious Koyasu bastard has been manupulating Asuna's father. He wants the family assets.
 
You know if the creepy ass cousin incest wasn't so god damned in your face the whole time, episode 15 would've been really decent. Seeing Kirito try to adapt back into the real world could've been explored a lot more.

Also I find it hilarious that in the entire premise of this anime, someone is criticizing the fact that two teenage characters with no romantic experience fall in love with each other playing an online game together. For all they knew any given day could've been their last day being alive, I don't see what's so far-fetched about them developing feelings for one another in a short period of time. It was more about symbolism than anything, it's not like they could've had real kids, which is why the Yui arc was important for them since it was the closest thing they had to a daughter.

Not saying it's great writing but god damn, if that's what bugged you about this anime the most why would you continue to watch it.

What bugs me about the headset is how SAO was the first game to supposedly support it..... but after SAO's release and the mass deaths that followed there were follow-up games which supported the technology. And not only did the government allow them to be released, but they also found people willing to use the headsets.

There's a defense force for everything here on GAF, you can bet your ass that people would still play games using deadly headsets.
 
So I gave this a watch on Crunchyroll. It was solidly above average, and got big props from me for actually having the leads hook up mid season instead of bullshitting around for ever. Then the most recent episodes cratered the show into typical animu harem tropes and crazy illogical story telling. WTF happened?? I was all ready to heavily recommend the show, thinking that they had the balls to end the "it's in a game" hook and have the rest of the show take place in the real world dealing with the aftermath of the incident and the leads finding each other. But noooo, it's harem incest bullshit and a NEW fantasy MMO that they're stuck in.

Someone who's read the novels please tell me if this is a one off moment of insanity or not.
 
Someone who's read the novels please tell me if this is a one off moment of insanity or not.
Not only is it not a one-off. There's a third game after the fairy game. It's about guns.
 
Not only is it not a one-off. There's a third game after the fairy game. It's about guns.

Ugh, does the incest plot continue to? Please tell me that in the process of trying to find Asuka he doesn't attract a harem of women. Please.
 
Not only is it not a one-off. There's a third game after the fairy game. It's about guns.

Ugh, does the incest plot continue to? Please tell me that in the process of trying to find Asuka he doesn't attract a harem of women. Please.

And then there's another "game" after that.
The entire series is based around VR MMOs, so I don't know why that would be surprising or a turn-off though.

And yes, up until Aliciazation (4th arc), basically every major protagonist character is female, and they all fall in love with Kirito (at least for a time). Granted, there's no others in Fairy Dance, and only 1 more in Phantom Bullet, and to its credit, it never actually devolves into your standard harem because they basically come to terms once they know about Kirito and Asuna, but it's one of the more obnoxious aspects of the series.
 
But yeah, it's obvious Koyasu bastard has been manupulating Asuna's father. He wants the family assets.
That should be obvious to everyone..and it'll be even more obvious in more episodes

You know if the creepy ass cousin incest wasn't so god damned in your face the whole time, episode 15 would've been really decent. Seeing Kirito try to adapt back into the real world could've been explored a lot more.
True but what good it'll be if he lost what was one of his mental pillar of support ?
"try to get a life"
"but the one i love is in a coma !!"
Also I find it hilarious that in the entire premise of this anime, someone is criticizing the fact that two teenage characters with no romantic experience fall in love with each other playing an online game together. For all they knew any given day could've been their last day being alive, I don't see what's so far-fetched about them developing feelings for one another in a short period of time. It was more about symbolism than anything, it's not like they could've had real kids, which is why the Yui arc was important for them since it was the closest thing they had to a daughter.

Not saying it's great writing but god damn, if that's what bugged you about this anime the most why would you continue to watch it.
People were forced to roleplay to the extreme .. that why they showed us many ways to live within SAO...Silica managed to keep up with her dragon , some other went full PK , other openned shop , some married , and some went to fish ..In those conditions falling in love is nothing uncommon.
There's a defense force for everything here on GAF, you can bet your ass that people would still play games using deadly headsets.
lights spoilers for ep16 and onwards:
The other games devellopped on SAO technology doesn't fry your brain when you dies ..there is even a logout button. It's the cool thing with the garrantee of no dangers .. why would other people hesitate ?
Someone who's read the novels please tell me if this is a one off moment of insanity or not.
it's not ..there are other worlds after this one with different settings and rules
Ugh, does the incest plot continue to? Please tell me that in the process of trying to find Asuka he doesn't attract a harem of women. Please.
The incest plot continues during this arc but will be solved .as for your other question , NO there is no harem in there ... Kirito cares only about asuna ... with a little of yui (father - daughter relationship ). The man is taken
 
Figured I'll post here.

"Didn't live up to my expectations" summed up my thoughts. I'll spoiler tag it just in case.

Particularly about Kirito. In the first few episodes we see him going all alone but is more powerful than most other people in the game. Not to mention he declined joining guild...so there must be something else, right? I expected we'll find out a huge flaw in him to make his character more interesting later...

But no, he just is. No explanation whatsoever--he's just this cool lonely teenage guy in black who happens to be a beta player and also so very good at games.

The worst part of SAO Arc is the romance part, I suppose. You have 6000 ish people trying to complete the game for two years, then the two best players decided just to get married, settle down, fuck each others. No other explanation why they stopped, just because they are so in love with each other so screw other people on life support. The very worst part is their virtual daughter which seemingly had no use in story other than to emphasis that Kirito and Asuna loved each other so much omg it's sweet.

The end game was stupid, with the whole you can not die if you wished hard enough thing. And Kirito leaving his sickbed just to find Asuna? What about his family?

Then again, maybe this kind of story worked for the intended target audience. Despite its stupidity I do enjoy the show for what it is. It's not something I'd recommend for any people searching any semblance of good story, but hey, it's entertaining. Definitely continuing with adjusted expectations right now.

Still, episode 15 is not a good start lol.

Again I thought Kirito had problems in his home that made him a great MMO player. But no! He's adopted, but his mother loved him, his sister loved him so much she clenched fist when Kirito says another girl's name, even the father of the love of his life seemed okay with him!

Asuna's fiance will be much, much, much more interesting if he's not described as a disgustingly despicable man. Nobody liked him and it makes the story much more predictable. What if her fiancee was just this good guy with a good social status and nothing particularly wrong, just that he was already betrothed to her? That would make Asuna and Kirito's future choice more interesting.
 
Figured I'll post here.
He's just this cool lonely teenage guy in black who happens to be a beta player and also so very good at games.

Well I guess the writer saw that and decided to do a story where the main character just isnt this epic beater. Perhaps you should look into Accel World?

And on SAO
it isnt Kirito is "that" good, how many times did he over the 15 episodes come just right so close to dying? I was more shocked that he didnt wipe the floor with Heathcliff that final time and that it had to be a "draw"
 
I think the series would be big enough for a dub so I doubt we'd get even half of the stuff pictured there... :(

It is, but Aniplex is weird.

I would be surprised if we didn't get a dub eventually, but I'd also be surprised if Aniplex didn't release the Japanese blu-rays in the USA prior, assuming they have English subtitles.
 
Figured I'll post here.

"Didn't live up to my expectations" summed up my thoughts. I'll spoiler tag it just in case.

Particularly about Kirito. In the first few episodes we see him going all alone but is more powerful than most other people in the game. Not to mention he declined joining guild...so there must be something else, right? I expected we'll find out a huge flaw in him to make his character more interesting later...

But no, he just is. No explanation whatsoever--he's just this cool lonely teenage guy in black who happens to be a beta player and also so very good at games.

The worst part of SAO Arc is the romance part, I suppose. You have 6000 ish people trying to complete the game for two years, then the two best players decided just to get married, settle down, fuck each others. No other explanation why they stopped, just because they are so in love with each other so screw other people on life support. The very worst part is their virtual daughter which seemingly had no use in story other than to emphasis that Kirito and Asuna loved each other so much omg it's sweet.

The end game was stupid, with the whole you can not die if you wished hard enough thing. And Kirito leaving his sickbed just to find Asuna? What about his family?

Then again, maybe this kind of story worked for the intended target audience. Despite its stupidity I do enjoy the show for what it is. It's not something I'd recommend for any people searching any semblance of good story, but hey, it's entertaining. Definitely continuing with adjusted expectations right now.

Still, episode 15 is not a good start lol.

Again I thought Kirito had problems in his home that made him a great MMO player. But no! He's adopted, but his mother loved him, his sister loved him so much she clenched fist when Kirito says another girl's name, even the father of the love of his life seemed okay with him!

Asuna's fiance will be much, much, much more interesting if he's not described as a disgustingly despicable man. Nobody liked him and it makes the story much more predictable. What if her fiancee was just this good guy with a good social status and nothing particularly wrong, just that he was already betrothed to her? That would make Asuna and Kirito's future choice more interesting.

Re: Kirito -
yes, he's just a normal high school kid who's very good at playing video games. It doesn't make him the most interesting character ever, but I don't see it as being a particularly big flaw either. You almost sound like you believe that a reasonably normal person can't be the best player in a game.

Re: taking a break from front line -
I have to disagree with you completely here. Being stuck in a virtual world with real death for two years, with no end in sight, is something that will exert a tremendous amount of psychological pressure on the players. To expect 16 year old kids to shoulder the burden of being at the front lines with the highest risk is already asking a lot. To expect them to continue doing so after a near-death encounter (Kuradeel) while acting like nothing has changed is downright asinine.

Re: end of Aincrad -
this is the weakest part of the SAO saga by far, and yes, there's more than a little bit of love-overcomes-all deus ex machina going on. That said, your complaints about Kirito searching for Asuna seems strange. In their final moments in Aincrad, he and Asuna thought they were both going to die and accepted it. Then he finds himself alive in the real world. Is it that strange that his first thought at that point would be whether she was as well?
 
Re: Kirito

Did I sound like that? I'm just a bit disappointed he's not the character I thought he was. Of course a perfectly normal person can be the best player in the game, but I find a character like this not interesting at all. Like I said, this might work for the main audience. Not a big deal.

Re: taking a break from front line[/spoiler]

Then perhaps it's a matter of storytelling instead of the story itself. It's certainly what I felt when watching. Kirito doesn't look like he's hesitating in continuing the game before his last near death experience. Maybe I'm missing a few details?

Re: end of Aincrad

I can't connect with his decision at all at this moment. This is when I think the writer tried too hard to show that he loves her. I think nothing is lost in his character if he woke up, trying to find the people nearest to him and asking what happened to all SAO players, including Asuna. Or maybe that's what he's trying to do? I might need a rewatch on this part.
 
Did I sound like that? I'm just a bit disappointed he's not the character I thought he was. Of course a perfectly normal person can be the best player in the game, but I find a character like this not interesting at all. Like I said, this might work for the main audience. Not a big deal.



Then perhaps it's a matter of storytelling instead of the story itself. It's certainly what I felt when watching. Kirito doesn't look like he's hesitating in continuing the game before his last near death experience. Maybe I'm missing a few details?



I can't connect with his decision at all at this moment. This is when I think the writer tried too hard to show that he loves her. I think nothing is lost in his character if he woke up, trying to find the people nearest to him and asking what happened to all SAO players, including Asuna. Or maybe that's what he's trying to do? I might need a rewatch on this part.

1.) He is hesitant. If you watched episode 13, he doesn't even want to go back at all. If he could he'd live in the status quo with Asuna.

2.) It's a moment of shock and the first thing that pops into his mind is what was most important to him. I don't think it's uncommon imo.
 
Does Klein ask Asuna to be his girlfriend in the novel, or is that an in joke because his voice actor is also the lady bothering Sanji?
 
Ep 16
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This arc is much better than Sword Art Online already. ALfhiem Online and its flight engine and even that combat engine, I wouldnt mind playing it for real. I also like Kirito's design.
I liked how he was able to inherit his skills, though not his items. However, he keeps his sword moves? but I thought the dude in the shop said there are no sword skills in this game, yet everyones using swords, rapiers, and spears?
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But really not having the perma death around and all of that really makes this feel much better and good. I dont think its necessary for good drama as just having him fighting to free a loss companion is there.
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Recon needs more screentime.
 
Just saw all the episodes over the past three days and I really like it! I don't really mind the deus ex machinas or some of the cliches, but maybe that's because I want to believe love can be real and strong that quickly. :S

That pseudo incest stuff is too much for me though, blech.
 
Sword Art Online 16

PKing and factions? Hell yeah.
Players exploiting to get pictures of Asuna is hilarious yet true to these sort of games. :lol @ Kirito being all-in for ALO. He would have signed up even if she wasn't there. :( double :lol at his stats/inventory carrying over from SAO. However, the hesitation in deleting his old items? Yeah, that hit too close to home.

I liked this one for the same reason I really enjoyed the first: it sort of scratches the MMO itch that I fight with when I get to watch the characters get a first taste of the world and better acquaint themselves with it. I hope the more lighthearted atmosphere is retained as the seriousness of the SAO "death game" was getting overbearing.
 
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