Tabata explains the reason behind FFXV main cast's outfit.

Nanashrew said:
I'm wondering what happened to your muscly body. You're nothing but bones!
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I'm on a Halloween diet.

Golnei said:
The shirt is necessary - if he were topless the entire game, the impact would be reduced. Gladiolus slowly losing more and more of his clothing as the plot progresses is a crucial part of the narrative as a whole, as well as his character arc; it can't be rushed.

Also, in regards to the tattoo, you can tell they didn't intend people to see the armpit, the texture warping looks horrendous there. I guess it won't be that apparent if you'll be watching the animation from a distance ingame, though.
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The deep meaning of his flimsy tatters of a shirt is finally dawning on me. It's an allegory to the game's plot, and in fact, the development of FFXV itself.

I feel like the tattoos are there to keep him from being too magnificent. He has to have some flaw, right?

Monocle said:
Seems legit. Personally, I think open shirt guy should do whatever he needs to do to improve his battle performance. He could even take his shirt off, if that would help. Just spitballing here.


See? Look how battle ready he looks. This should be his default costume tbh. For practical purposes of course. I mean, he's probably going to have to fight a lot. And it's one less article of clothing to wash when he gets all dusty and has to scrub the grime off in a river while the sun catches his rippling contours.
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I'm excited for the "Gladiolus Launders his Clothes in the River Deux Ex Machina 7/15ths Quattro Vigoroso" DLC expansion. Something so glorious has to be behind a paywall.
 
No problem with their outfits but that may be the stupidest lore I've read all year.

Official battle gear? Are there no soldiers in their 40's?
 
Kagoshima_Luke said:
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excellent
 
Hours Left said:
I feel like the tattoos are there to keep him from being too magnificent. He has to have some flaw, right?
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I actually don't mind the idea behind giving him tattoos, it works from a colour perspective, but the actual designs are terrible, I agree. And they never should have tried giving him a back tattoo.

And this is more of a minor complaint, but I'm starting to dislike his scar a little as well - it sort of conflicts with the relatively naturalistic-but-stylised facial features; being blatant enough in its purpose of being an arbitrary distinguishing mark that it achieves the opposite effect and makes him look more generic.

SatoAilDarko said:
Official battle gear? Are there no soldiers in their 40's?
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There's a reason why Cor always looks like he's dead inside.
 
Chilikar said:
The way it expands so naturally and smoothly makes me believe that it occurs progressively through the story rather than just being a normal glitch. Imagine being near endgame and running around in that condition, sounds terrifying
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Well they did say that the longer you progress into the game, the longer nights will last, so i guess this is also part of it.
 
Razmos said:
Yep pretty much.

"You see, her boobs are hanging out of her suit of armour because she lives in a hot climate see, so it has been adopted as the traditional armour of the Knights Of The Dutchy Of Kjhangchabob and that's just how it is"
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I also love, how such an explanation wouldn't make sense. People from hot climate zones, who have to be outside most of the times (like guards or knights), escapilly would cover them self in cloth to protect there skin from the sun.

Even in fiction, unless there cartoons or are supposed to not make sense, universal laws should be logical and every deviation at least admitted. Even "it's magic" is okay, so long people from the fictional world say, that it's strange and unexplainable.

Final Fantasy X has bad case. Blitzball players simply can hold there breath for ever. This is never explained or challenged, even so it's an unquestionable limit of human endurance. A simple breathing device, the past and future civilization in the game had advance technology, or a magic spell would have been enough. Not explaing it, just made it unintentional wired.
 
Golnei said:
I actually don't mind the idea behind giving him tattoos, it works from a colour perspective, but the actual designs are terrible, I agree. And they never should have tried giving him a back tattoo.

And this is more of a minor complaint, but I'm starting to dislike his scar a little as well - it sort of conflicts with the relatively naturalistic-but-stylised facial features; being blatant enough in its purpose of being an arbitrary distinguishing mark that it achieves the opposite effect and makes him look more generic.
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I'm generally not a tattoo fan at all, yet I can understand their purpose in design, but in this case it looks like they just spilled a bucket of ink on him. Any nuance they might of been trying to convey is totally lost, it's just "look at this big guy with the tattoos", and I think your feelings on the scar mirror that also. (I like scars but I totally understand your take on it.)
 
Black is beautiful. The blacker the berry the sweeter the juice. Black is slimming. Black is formal. Ass so fat you can see it from the front. Wait forget that last part.
 
poodaddy said:
Black is beautiful. The blacker the berry the sweeter the juice. Black is slimming. Black is formal. Ass so fat you can see it from the front. Wait forget that last part.
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But that was the part that really spoke to me.

Hours Left said:
I'm excited for the "Gladiolus Launders his Clothes in the River Deux Ex Machina 7/15ths Quattro Vigoroso" DLC expansion. Something so glorious has to be behind a paywall.
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If SE have any sense at all, they'll charge $60 for this content and $10 for the rest of the game.
 
I sense lots of fanfiction coming soon.
 
Lol at the "thats a lame excuse" posts its not an excuse at all, and i honestly feel like hes explaining way to much for no reason. They have on all black because that's the way we wanted then to look, its all males because we decided that,cidney is dressed that way because we chose the outfit. Like who cares stop catering to that whining minority about the little stuff. People need to ask more about game play at this point
 
Really would appreciate Not hearing ridiculous, in-universe justifications for character appearance in games anymore. It seems to often be a way of absolving the ones responsible of guilt if those designs are awful.

People eat that up though, and buy into it completely.
 
I am okay with this explanation, but if I see a lot of NPCs wearing black, then I'm calling BS lol.

But in the end it doesn't matter at all. I don't care about minor details like this and I just want to experience the game already.
 
Dr. Kazuo said:
The simple truth is that most people love Nomura's designs, and that's why he keeps getting work. GAF is just a tiny bubble.
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These aren't entirely Nomura's designs. And at least in this thread, people seem to be finding the explanation more ridiculous than the actual outfits.

Hours Left said:
Any nuance they might of been trying to convey is totally lost, it's just "look at this big guy with the tattoos", and I think your feelings on the scar mirror that also. (I like scars but I totally understand your take on it.)
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That's essentially what I think about it as well - they didn't really bother doing anything particularly interesting with the archetype, just sticking tattoos and scars in because it's what was expected. It's fairly common for the series to do that - look at how Squall's scar was decided as a visual flourish before they incorporated it into his backstory, and how Jecht's chest tattoo doesn't get much in the way of explanation - but in cases like those, they're unique and eye-catching points which unify the design and differentiate themselves from other implementations of the same visual devices. Gladiolus' generic tribal tattoos and stock vertical scar are the exact opposite, despite being included with the same intent.
 
Well... whatever the ''reason'' is, they look terrible. Except Ignis maybe, but even his design is only one step away from looking ridiculous... thanks to his companions.
 
Blackleg-sanji1 said:
Lol at the "thats a lame excuse" posts its not an excuse at all, and i honestly feel like hes explaining way to much for no reason. They have on all black because that's the way we wanted then to look, its all males because we decided that,cidney is dressed that way because we chose the outfit. Like who cares stop catering to that whining minority about the little stuff. People need to ask more about game play at this point
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You say it's not an excuse, then go on to say the reasons given aren't genuine, right? How does that not constitute an excuse? If the real reason for the designs is "we wanted them to look like this" (which is the real reason), then propping it up by saying they're that way because of the game's story is a way of excusing the design, good or bad.
 
Golnei said:
That's essentially what I think about it as well - they didn't really bother doing anything particularly interesting with the archetype, just sticking tattoos and scars in because it's what was expected. It's fairly common for the series to do that - look at how Squall's scar was decided as a visual flourish before they incorporated it into his backstory, and how Jecht's chest tattoo doesn't get much in the way of explanation - but in cases like those, they're unique and eye-catching points which unify the design and differentiate themselves from other implementations of the same visual devices. Gladiolus' generic tribal tattoos and stock vertical scar are the exact opposite, despite being included with the same intent.
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Thankfully Gladiolus seems the most capable of distinguishing himself beyond his rather mundane design flourishes (I hope at least the bird motif is supposed to represent something) because despite the unfortunate tattoos, he's still the character that stands out the most to me of the core four, and not just because he's muscular. Noctis and Prompto barely register anything at all, and Ignis, while moderately interesting, still reads "I'm the smart one because I have glasses". All four of these character fall squarely into a very well trodden design archetypes so I'm hoping they'll be able to exist beyond their preset "role".
 
Spring-Loaded said:
You say it's not an excuse, then go on to say the reasons given aren't genuine, right? How does that not constitute an excuse? If the real reason for the designs is "we wanted them to look like this" (which is the real reason), then propping it up by saying they're that way because of the game's story is a way of excusing the design, good or bad.
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In a way you're right i guess what i mean is it's more so that they shouldn't have to make an excuse. The games been known about since 2006 they all still had all black on back then to(i believe one had a white T on at one point prompto i think?) The fact he feels like he has to make some in game excuse for what they want to do shows he's not happy with his creativity..which isn't the case at all its in fact trying to stop a raging fan base from breathing down his neck
 
Golnei said:
The shirt is necessary - if he were topless the entire game, the impact would be reduced. Gladiolus slowly losing more and more of his clothing as the plot progresses is a crucial part of the narrative as a whole, as well as his character arc; it can't be rushed.

Also, in regards to the tattoo, you can tell they didn't intend people to see the armpit, the texture warping looks horrendous there. I guess it won't be that apparent if you'll be watching the animation from a distance ingame, though.



That's probably the main problem. Given the way protagonists of past games have looked, they really didn't have to attempt a justification, let alone one so half-hearted and bizarre.
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Tabata just needs to use those clothes shredding from damage mechanic from The Third Birthday. Don't waste it!
 
Hours Left said:
The only thing that needs explaining is why they'd cover Gladiolus's body with such an ugly tattoo. And why's he's wearing a shirt. And why he isn't the protagonist. Why.
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I like the tattoo (could be a bit neater) but I agree on the other points. Maybe it could be like Bayonetta where he strips down the more damage he takes or something. I mean If his boxers are black then they can be battle dress too right?
 
entrydenied said:
Tabata just needs to use those clothes shredding from damage mechanic from The Third Birthday. Don't waste it!
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IvorB said:
I like the tattoo (could be a bit neater) but I agree on the other points. Maybe it could be like Bayonetta where he strips down the more damage he takes or something. I mean If his boxers are black then they can be battle dress too right?
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The only way, though we're still stuck playing as Noctis. :/
 
Now that I think about it, a floral or geometric dotwork tattoo sleeve might have been a better fit - it conveys the image they want, while also reinforcing Gladiolus' connection to the more modern culture of Lucis. If the game ever makes it to PC, I guess people could change the designs to whatever they saw fit via texture editing.

IvorB said:
I mean If his boxers are black then they can be battle dress too right?
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Maybe not boxers - considering how closely they're following the archetype, I wouldn't expect them to deviate from the expected standard when it comes to underwear either.

Hours Left said:
The only way, though we're still stuck playing as Noctis. :/
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That's where the teamwork aspect comes in - when damaged, Noctis has to recover his health (and therefore clothes) by ripping them from his comrades' willing bodies. I assume Prompto would be ineligible for this mechanic.
 
It's basically three hundred year old dragon for sexy dudes.

I'd rather just say "they wear the clothing that they think looks cool" and instead of some whack ass justification, it makes the characters relatable since we can see part of their personalities by their clothing choices, and gives a thematic bonus as well—they dress similar because they're buddies and they like the same stuff.
 
Servbot24 said:
What are they supposedly making an excuse for?
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For the main cast looking and dressing like a boy band.
Hey, it's their game and if One Direction Fantasy is what they want to make then good for them. But the excuse is just silly.

It's like those RPG's where female armour is basically a metal bikini. Ok, you are doing that because you like that type of design and mabye you think it will atract a portion of the male audience, good for you. But when you start to try and make excuses for it: "It's actually because in this world breasts work as weapon magnets so women only have to protect that part" it just comes off as stupid .

Golnei said:
Now that I think about it, a floral or geometric dotwork tattoo sleeve might have been a better fit - it conveys the image they want, while also reinforcing Gladiolus' connection to the more modern culture of Lucis. If the game ever makes it to PC, I guess people could change the designs to whatever they saw fit via texture editing.
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The "I'm not a 12 years old girl MOD" is the greatest reason why this game HAS to come to PC
 
Dude it's fine if you thought the outfits were cool no extra justification needed. People can still complain but this statement won't change hearts and minds.

I don't even care about the clothing but this bullshit explanation is hilarious.
 
"Why does your female action hero wear... Well I'm not sure what to call that it's just a nylon string that runs out the asscrack and covers the nipples and the bare minimum in the crotch too."

"It's called a Stringenator."

"Okay, why does she wear a Stringenator?"

"Well you see, it's made from a special nylon fabric that has to be mined by people with a magical power. These "chosen acolytes" are touched by the diety Ramsis and spend 35 years training just to be able to work in the nylon mines for a day. Many of them die in the process. Our hero Sexuellia is a total badass but is also compassionate, so while the other male warriors wear full suits of the special nylon, she chose to go with the smallest amount of material possible to prevent unnecessary acolyte deaths."

"That makes perfect sense. I'm ashamed I ever thought you just wanted a sexy woman lead because you like sexy women and many other people also like sexy women."
 
I don't think it's that much of a lame excuse, maybe I'm just too used to bullshit from devs, but it seemed legit to me.

We always knew the dudes in Lucis fought in suits with swords while Niflheim uses armor and guns. It being a battle gear makes sense as to why it's so uniform. If it wasn't, it would be just because that's the fashion in Lucis and they like it, but being an actual uniform is a better explanation than everyone choosing to wear red soles.

Of course, in the end it all goes down to "because we wanted them to", but that applies to every single element of every single game. If we're gonna be reductive, there's no reason to even discuss games anymore. Why would we talk about characters and their motivations, if in the end it's just because the writer wanted them to do whatever it is they're doing?

Might as well close every game's spoiler thread now.
 
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