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[YankeeDonB]

It is a little odd to frame the wardrobe as "battle gear," given that nothing about it looks to be relevant to fighting. I guess Noctis' clothes would be, at least, easy to move in. But fighting in a suit? Yikes. Since they defend themselves with magic, not armor, I guess the function of the clothes could be symbolic or heraldic or something. But they're so muted and indistinguishable at a distance, this doesn't make much sense either. Obviously they were just designed to look like fashion conscious city boys, and Tabata and co have tried to think of a post-hoc way to integrate their clothing more tightly into the plot.

Regardless, it's hard for me to care much about this. Just more filler fluff to get us through to March.

 

[Golnei]

I don't think it's that much of a lame excuse, maybe I'm just too used to bullshit from devs, but it seemed legit to me.

We always knew the dudes in Lucis fought in suits with swords while Niflheim uses armor and guns. It being a battle gear makes sense as to why it's so uniform. If it wasn't, it would be just because that's the fashion in Lucis and they like it, but being an actual uniform is a better explanation than everyone choosing to wear red soles.

But it doesn't function as a uniform, no other character wears any of the main cast's outfits. They're clearly personal clothing. The colouring and style is linked to Lucis, and there's obvious similarity in the general fashion, but calling them actual uniforms comes off as really contrived; it even diminishes their characterisation a little, due to so much of their visual presentation not being of their own choice, but the 'specific battle dress relevant to their individual stations'. If they really had to explain away the colour scheme and red soles, just ascribing it to a dress code would be easier to swallow than turning these Roen outfits into military uniforms.

Main protagonist dressed like a fucking toddler.

Nomura's tragic fascination with capri pants started a long time ago, unfortunately. He can't get enough of those filthy, filthy ankles.

Oh god. Not... not this:

You're overthinking it. There's a far more ubiquitous item which comes with the archetype.

The "I'm not a 12 years old girl MOD" is the greatest reason why this game HAS to come to PC

...you want to mod every character into a 1000-year-old dragon?

 

[Syntsui]

That's the tamest outfit in Final Fantasy history.

 

[Fuu]

Wait, why is she wearing a g-string over the top of her short shorts?

Redda's crew is basically the g-string gang. Rikken was into it too:

 

[ShadowSoldier89]

pretty pointless to justify it. Even the best justification wouldn't stop them from looking dumb as hell.

 

[meltingparappa]

As you can see, the open shirt design provides excellent cooling during battle to avoid heat exhaustion. Notice also the protective nature of that finger-less glove to keep Noctis's 1 hand unscathed during battle.

I read that in the voice of Naked Snake when he went full military otaku on Eva when she gave him that cqc gun then regretted it with mild disgust.

 

[Hours Left]

:-(



Oh god. Not... not this:

Spoiler

Hey, hey. Nothing wrong with that.

That's a working man's outfit.

You're overthinking it. There's a far more ubiquitous item which comes with the archetype.

I wanna say I know what you're talking about, but I haven't been so successful at picking up your undergarment inference lately.

Spoiler

Jockstrap?

Redda's crew is basically the g-string gang. Rikken was into it too:

FFXII, where everyone is rather dressed as a foppish aristocrat or pirate stripper.

 

[Shahed]

While I think the explanation is a waste of time and unnecessary, it was pretty common for a noble and their entourage to wear the colours of his house. So it does make sense

 

[IvorB]

You're overthinking it. There's a far more ubiquitous item which comes with the archetype.

Oh my god, just tell me! WHAT KIND OF UNDERWEAR IS HE WEARING!?!? :-O

 

[Steejee]

I think Tabata should just gone with 'He's Royalty, royal houses and their staff tend to wear insane shit because they're disconnected with the real world'.

Catching up on Outlander Season 2 and the episode with the English Duke (this is 18th century) is hilarious for the pure foppishness of the Duke's outfit and furnishings. They could totally play off that sort of insularness and tie the ludicrousness of the outfits into how disconnected the royalty is from the real world.

 

[jett]

"Because."

That explanation makes no sense. I was expecting something that at least approached some level of honesty.

 

[IvorB]

I wanna say I know what you're talking about, but I haven't been so successful at picking up your undergarment inference lately.

Spoiler

Jockstrap?

That can't be it surely...

 

[catapult37]

Read the first sentence. Loooooooooool

 

[Whompa02]

The clothing sensibilities are the reason I'm coming back to this series...they actually look tame in comparison to the absolute atrocities in design some of the previous entries have had...

 

[Grisby]

Think I need to hit up Men's Warehouse for some battle gear.

 

[butman]

Next thread: Tabata explains the reason behind FFXV main cast's haircut.

Give me the release date dammit!

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

Appropriate clothes for fighting isn't needed as the constraints of 'realism' aren't applied.

You could all make the same argument for most movies and games in which characters wear clothing that isn't suitable for being shot by a bullets, slashed by a sword or repeatedly punched and kicked.The argument would still be nonsense. Where does it stop - Star Wars? Uncharted?

Do whatever you want in your own fictional creation.

 

[Ishida]

Sure. I can accept that. Can't believe people need an explanation for a JRPG character's outfit....

 

[Golnei]

Next thread: Tabata explains the reason behind FFXV main cast's haircut.

Considering all those ambiguous statements Nomura made years ago about Noctis' hair being a symbol of his power with a deep link to his mental state and magical ability, I wouldn't be that surprised. Do we know if the hair changing colour according to his emotions made it over to XV?

That can't be it surely...

I told you that you were overthinking it. Though I'm undecided as to whether a regular or lace-up one would suit his character better.

Sure. I can accept that. Can't believe people need an explanation for a JRPG character's outfit....

I can't believe they bothered trying to give us one.

 

[Kagari]

The clothing is fine. It doesn't need to be justified either because this is a fictional fantasy game.

 

[CHC]

Such a weird justification considering he also made up the reason they have to wear the gear. I mean by this logic he could literally just say anything and it would be law since he is the one in charge of designing the world and its rules....

 

[Hours Left]

I told you that you were overthinking it. Though I'm undecided as to whether a regular or lace-up one would suit his character better.

My gay sensibilities redeemed.

Lace-ups for special occasions.

 

[wmlk]

They probably felt like they needed to explain something like this considering people constantly ask for additional costumes in the game and how tricky the Roen situation is.

I'd really like to know what Nomura was thinking with Roen, and how stupid that contract must have been.

 

[SliceSabre]

The clothing is fine. It doesn't need to be justified either because this is a fictional fantasy game.

I'm of the same mind.

 

[ShadowSoldier89]

The clothing is fine. It doesn't need to be justified either because this is a fictional fantasy game.

I was under the impression that this argument no longer worked

 

[TheJollyCorner]

Oh my sides! I can't stop laughing at this. It's like a blind woman let a drunk pervert dress her.

bwahahahaha this

 

[Garlador]

*N Sync prepares to rush into battle wearing their authentic warrior garb.

 

[TheJollyCorner]

Does Tabata have an alcohol problem? I mean, I say this with sincere sympathy if so.
I'm honestly concerned he does these interviews completely tanked.

'Battle attire' for fucking fashion model clothes. Cheezus!

 

[Kamina777]

I don't care about the all black. My problem is the Roen collaboration (which is what I think is forcing them to keep the outfits) where the outfits has to have all these stupid skulls and hot topic look to them.

The old look could of easily be fit into the lore. You can actually keep Prompto as is since he isn't even part of the royal family.


I blame this aspect on Nomura entirely.



All that said, the outfits are unique at least. I haven't seen any other game where I run around in a jpop outfit so it'll be refreshing at least.

Nomura is slowly killing that company, a lot if money is being pumped into these games to keep them in development, and he's making sweetheart deals with his jpop clothing maker pals wasting time redesigning the characters from the ground up.

 

[Mr.Galahad]

Tabata should just stay quiet about unimportant stuff like this. The less we know about that kind of stuff the more our imagination will work to make up for it, which is good.

If you begin to explain each and every piece of clothing you WILL regret it, people love nitpicking you know?

 

[Death Penalty]

The thing is, the people complaining weren't asking how you've contorted the story to justify the outfits. They were asking why the outfits are so goddamn hideous, which can't be justified by story. Truly awful designs. Love that Tabata keeps brushing away nearly every major complaint with "the story demands it". Cidney dresses that way because it shows her personality, Regis' design had to change because the story called for it, Stella had to be axed in favor of Luna because there's no way she could have fit in the story and now the characters are fashion rejects because it's official Lucian battle gear. The notion of it is just ridiculous, I wish he'd just say that this is the way it's being presented and he's sorry if we don't like it.

 

[Zolo]

I wish he'd just say that this is the way it's being presented and he's sorry if we don't like it.

Most companies don't usually favor the 'This is how it is. If you don't like it, don't play it and find something you may like better' approach.

 

[Whompa02]

I'd really like to know what Nomura was thinking with Roen, and how stupid that contract must have been.

Why do you think it's stupid? Seems pretty cool to me to actually incorporate realistic clothing, instead of just making stuff up, which usually looks completely silly and pointless.

 

[Death Penalty]

Most companies don't usually favor the 'This is how it is. If you don't like it, don't play it and find something you may like better' approach.

I didn't say he should tell us not to buy it, I'm saying if he's trying to address complaints like this he should just apologize and move on, not spin it with some idiotic excuse. He's said "We're sorry but the vision of the project has changed" before and I think he'd be well-served being similarly clear on small issues like this.

 

[Space Medafighter X]

I didn't think they needed an explanation, but damn I love the character designs and their clothing!

 

[Haunted]

*N Sync prepares to rush into battle wearing their authentic warrior garb.

this thread is killing me

:lol

 

[Gbraga]

I didn't say he should tell us not to buy it, I'm saying if he's trying to address complaints like this he should just apologize and move on, not spin it with some idiotic excuse. He's said "We're sorry but the vision of the project has changed" before and I think he'd be well-served being similarly clear on small issues like this.

Why would he need to apologize for the designs? I like them. ¯\_(&#12484_/¯

Also, they're from the Nomura era. XV replaced Stella with Luna and changed Regis, but the updated party design can be seen in the 2011 trailer, back when it was still Versus and on PS3. Why would he have to talk about the vision changing when it didn't?

He's explaining the in-game reason for the clothes, not explaining the development reason why they changed. That should be asked to Nomura, not Tabata.

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

I can guess the real reason here.

 

[Garlador]

Why do you think it's stupid? Seems pretty cool to me to actually incorporate realistic clothing, instead of just making stuff up, which usually looks completely silly and pointless.

But Final Fantasy clothing was FOUNDED on the basis of being silly and pointless.

It's Final FANTASY. The outfits used to be absolutely, out-of-this-world FANTASTICAL. Like a Renaissance Fair made love to 60's Beatle songs while taking every hallucinogenic drug in the medicine cabinet.

I know this game is a "fantasy based on reality" or something like that, but I'll take the exuberant, trippy, bold colors and indulgent overdesign of the previous games over... well, Hot Topic.

 

[Aeriscloud]

I would think after XIII-2 and LR, as well as XIV glamour system, that there will likely be clothing changes.

I mean look at LR's pre order bonus.

 

[Whompa02]

Right. That was before FF got zippered and belted...and those are definitely high fantasy designs, something FF has deviated from for years (minus 14).

 

[IvorB]

I told you that you were overthinking it. Though I'm undecided as to whether a regular or lace-up one would suit his character better.

Oh is he the sporty one? Okay I can roll with that. Would need to be black though obviously to be correct battle gear.

 

[Man Called Aerodynamics]

No justification needed beyond "It looks cool/interesting/attractive."

But I guess they've had years upon years to just think through all this lore. :/

 

[Garlador]

Right. That was before FF got zippered and belted...and those are definitely high fantasy designs, something FF has deviated from for years (minus 14).

I think having it be "modern" still isn't an excuse.
Look at these rosters of "realistic" Final Fantasy games and look how colorful and diverse they are.

So much color and variety. Even in the Nomura-designed stuff, the outfits were vibrant, the cast wildly diverse, and there was enough flair to fuel a decade's worth of pride parades. FF15's cast really comes across as dour and mediocre by comparison to every Final Fantasy game's designs, not just the medieval high fantasy ones.

 

[Lucky Seven]

I thought it was just supposed to promote some japanese fashion trend. But if he wants to connect it to the lore then that's cool.

 

[Whompa02]

Zero consistency in 10 and 13 though. Especially in FF13's design sensibilities, which I think is absolutely directionless.

FF7 is predominately red/black/and off white tones. Solid color theory. FF8 and 7, which seems close to FF15's inspirations, are good...

10 works as a fantasy. Hardly realistic. Some designs are though...but are still set in a totally different style/time period.

It boils down to the intent of the director. Each game is different from the rest. There's really no consistency within the ones you listed.

I dunno, I really like the consistency of 15s designs. Makes them look like a group, which was intentional. I think being modern is absolutely an "excuse" because it was set in stone since the game was announced. A Fantasy based on Reality.

 

[Koozek]

I am okay with this explanation, but if I see a lot of NPCs wearing black, then I'm calling BS lol.

But in the end it doesn't matter at all. I don't care about minor details like this and I just want to experience the game already.

A lot of the NPCs in Insomnia seem to wear white shirts plus black suits sometimes (like Salarymen in Tokyo):

 

[Windforce]

yep

from:https://twitter.com/FFXVJP/status/657403779235471360

Okay excuse about the costumes.

Now give me swimsuit alts DoA style for my main party.

 

[thebaroness]

I like the boy band excuse. I can buy that they're all part of the royal pop band.

 

[Wagram]

The problem I have with the XV dev team is constantly needing to justify their reasoning behind things. The long winded explanation about which side the driver sat in the car drove me nuts. Make the game you want to make.