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Tales of Zestiria |OT| - Sorey, Modders did what Bamcouldn't!

Kind of offtopic but does anyone think a second run through of Xillia is worth it going through Milla's route (went with Jude first playthrough)?

Milla's route does fill in some blanks from when she was away from Jude at different points in the story, but you already got the bulk of the story from Jude's path. I think I lost interest before I finished. JRPGs are too long for multiple playthroughs close together.
 

Radius

Member
VanillaCakeIsBurning said:
Kind of offtopic but does anyone think a second run through of Xillia is worth it going through Milla's route (went with Jude first playthrough)?


Depends on whether you want to see some extra story bits (it's not much though) and net a few trophies. Make sure you have enough grade to get the EXP x 2 and EXP x 5 bonus from the grade shop though. This will help you breeze through the standard enemies.
 

ULTROS!

People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
This all bothered me too. If there was a rewrite I do think it's pretty obvious that it happened at the point Alisha leaves the party, because everything in the first story arc of the game flows nicely and seems to set up a story that the rest of the game doesn't care to follow. The game has a tonal shift from that point on and the pacing keeps getting more and more erratic. Still, it's nowhere near as bad as, say, Metal Gear Solid V (which is nearly unacceptably unfinished and spotty in regards to its story)

I forgot, my other issue with the game towards the end is:

Lailah and Zaveid seem to know each other but that wasn't explained at all. Also Lailah's connection with the previous shepherd, although I haven't completed the orbs yet. A lot of the characters, while they have rich personalities, have almost no backstory that ever materialized in the end.
 

SolVanderlyn

Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Veigue is amazing. Cold, taciturn, having ice as his main element, and then KUREEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAA x 100000
He's my favorite protagonist by far for all of these reasons. He also used a broadsword. Ice based, offensively oriented, and a two handed swordsman? Recipe for success. And his love of peach pie. lol. He's also voiced by Link.

I forgot, my other issue with the game towards the end is:

Lailah and Zaveid seem to know each other but that wasn't explained at all. Also Lailah's connection with the previous shepherd, although I haven't completed the orbs yet. A lot of the characters, while they have rich personalities, have almost no backstory that ever materialized in the end.
Yep, and
Zaveid knew Dezel. The Lailah thing was sort of explained in Earthern Historia but so vaguely that it left you wanting more.
 

Cornbread78

Member
It's not really worth it unless you care about trophies or planned to play through it again anyway. The differences are pretty minor.

Not if you are planning to play Xillia 2. You don't want to go through the same areas a third or fourth time.


Uggh, I played Xillia like two years ago and just got Xillia 2 on the cheap. Would that 2nd Millia play through still feel repetitive if I did her route as a refresher before playing 2?
 

Falk

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As a refresher, if you have your save file for grade shop shenanigans to speed up the playthrough I'd say go for it.

Especially if it's 2 years ago.

BUT on the other hand, consider that Xillia 2 does retread a lot of ground (locations, not story), so you might be more susceptible to burnout playing them back to back.
 

Fisico

Member
I always wondered what material they could possibly fill a whole magazine with every month.

Well I own a few, and I bought the last one on a whim because... well it's the last one, so I could tell you

- First of all half of the magazine (80 pages out of 155) is simply prepublishing Tales of mangas, currently two Zestiria's related ones some 4koma, some fanmade and some fan art
- You have a few pages of advertisements (5), for the two current mobile titles, Link and Asteria, for the latest artbook, Tales of Memoria, and for the orchestral concert to come, Tales of Orchestra Concert
- Beginning and table of contents use 5 pages
- Being the last one, you have a bit of a retrospective of the recuring points of the series (battle system, spells & arts, spots, item & weapon, colosseum, cooking, costume, escort titles) taking up to 18 pages
- A two pages articles with lots of pictures about the Tales of Museem which will be taking place late November - early December (with a ton of goods to buy of course)
- Two pages about special skits from the last Tales of Festival
- Then you have 6 pages (lol) about Viva Tales of the usual chat between Viva-kun and Onosaka-san (Zelos' s seiyuu which is kinda the main voice actor associated with the series)
- 6 pages focusing on a character from the series, this time it was Presea
- 8 pages about Tales of Link, the first two are about the current events/collabo/special characters, two pages about the plot, 3 pages of interview with the director of Tales of Link (some guy from Akatsuki) and 1 page about a special story
- 4 pages about Asteria
- Tales of Tribute, a 2 pages special illustration from a guest artist
- 8/9 pages of colored fanarts
- Tales of no Sentaku, some kind of VS where I guess readers can choose between two "sides", this month it's Zelos vs Kratos, last month it was Repede vs Lulu (and it was a 50/50, how convenient)
- A 2 pages report of Tales of Matsuri, some kind of events where you could buy goods and foods based on some characters (like the Ludger Mabo Curry Crepe)
- 1 page about Tales of Shop, which is located in every Kotobukiya I think (at least it was in both Osaka and Akihabara)
- Tales of Daisuki, 1 page about some kind of celebrity liking the Tales of series, this time it's an idol from Passpo, an idol group in Hiroshima.
- 1 page of a cooking recipe, this time it's the Oriental Rice from Tales of Destiny 2

And I think it covers almost every page, the Tales of Magazine from September 2009 (only other one I can find right now) was 200+ pages but it was mostly because there were more prepublishing mangas.
It's mostly fan service and there are lots of visuals about almost everything there is to know about the series, sometimes you may have a few interesting interviews with key development staff (Higuchi, Baba, Yoshizumi, Haase...) but if you're not a big fan of the series you will most likely don't find anything interesting to see.
 

Cornbread78

Member
As a refresher, if you have your save file for grade shop shenanigans to speed up the playthrough I'd say go for it.

Especially if it's 2 years ago.

BUT on the other hand, consider that Xillia 2 does retread a lot of ground (locations, not story), so you might be more susceptible to burnout playing them back to back.


So a literal coin flip, huh?

Maybe I can just you tube all the strory parts. Can you import your save file into Xillia 2?
 

Bladenic

Member
Well I own a few, and I bought the last one on a whim because... well it's the last one, so I could tell you

- First of all half of the magazine (80 pages out of 155) is simply prepublishing Tales of mangas, currently two Zestiria's related ones some 4koma, some fanmade and some fan art
- You have a few pages of advertisements (5), for the two current mobile titles, Link and Asteria, for the latest artbook, Tales of Memoria, and for the orchestral concert to come, Tales of Orchestra Concert
- Beginning and table of contents use 5 pages
- Being the last one, you have a bit of a retrospective of the recuring points of the series (battle system, spells & arts, spots, item & weapon, colosseum, cooking, costume, escort titles) taking up to 18 pages
- A two pages articles with lots of pictures about the Tales of Museem which will be taking place late November - early December (with a ton of goods to buy of course)
- Two pages about special skits from the last Tales of Festival
- Then you have 6 pages (lol) about Viva Tales of the usual chat between Viva-kun and Onosaka-san (Zelos' s seiyuu which is kinda the main voice actor associated with the series)
- 6 pages focusing on a character from the series, this time it was Presea
- 8 pages about Tales of Link, the first two are about the current events/collabo/special characters, two pages about the plot, 3 pages of interview with the director of Tales of Link (some guy from Akatsuki) and 1 page about a special story
- 4 pages about Asteria
- Tales of Tribute, a 2 pages special illustration from a guest artist
- 8/9 pages of colored fanarts
- Tales of no Sentaku, some kind of VS where I guess readers can choose between two "sides", this month it's Zelos vs Kratos, last month it was Repede vs Lulu (and it was a 50/50, how convenient)
- A 2 pages report of Tales of Matsuri, some kind of events where you could buy goods and foods based on some characters (like the Ludger Mabo Curry Crepe)
- 1 page about Tales of Shop, which is located in every Kotobukiya I think (at least it was in both Osaka and Akihabara)
- Tales of Daisuki, 1 page about some kind of celebrity liking the Tales of series, this time it's an idol from Passpo, an idol group in Hiroshima.
- 1 page of a cooking recipe, this time it's the Oriental Rice from Tales of Destiny 2

And I think it covers almost every page, the Tales of Magazine from September 2009 (only other one I can find right now) was 200+ pages but it was mostly because there were more prepublishing mangas.
It's mostly fan service and there are lots of visuals about almost everything there is to know about the series, sometimes you may have a few interesting interviews with key development staff (Higuchi, Baba, Yoshizumi, Haase...) but if you're not a big fan of the series you will most likely don't find anything interesting to see.

Honestly they should just print a massive book compiling recipes for every recipe featured in the series, some would be pretty delicious.
 

Faenix1

Member
Alright, I'm sure this has been asked but:

Is there no easy way to select what skills you want on your gear?

I assumed via Normin, but apparently that's not how it works. My current gear has a lot of unions, ect. so I'm hesistant to upgrade from it. :/
 
I assumed via Normin, but apparently that's not how it works. My current gear has a lot of unions, ect. so I'm hesistant to upgrade from it. :/

And therein lies the weakness of the equipment system. Any time you "upgrade" equipment, it's usually going to be a downgrade unless the stars align and you find something with a decent set of skills, which is always completely random. I hope they never ever use this skill system again.
 

KainXVIII

Member
New TZFix is out, texture shimmering is competely gone (add 8x SGSSAA and you get very clean IQ)! But still stutter fix don't work for me, strangely.

Tales of Zestiria "Fix" v 0.5.0
@Kaldaien Kaldaien released this a day ago · 3 commits to master since this release

Shimmering is FIXED!

Fixes 512x256 post-processing effect that was causing massive shimmering
Adds option to significantly increase character shadow resolution
All thanks belong to Durante for figuring this out
Adds option to FORCE full mipmap chains on all loaded textures (slow)
https://github.com/Kaldaien/TZF/releases
 
Not really unless you want the trophy (I think there's one for that? Or maybe not). Either way her side of the story is generally worse and all she has that Jude doesn't is an infuriating boss fight.

AFAIK, the differences between the two routes are pretty minor. Just a few different scenes. I think there's a trophy for it, but the game doesn't really change much at all.

Not if you are planning to play Xillia 2. You don't want to go through the same areas a third or fourth time.

Milla's route does fill in some blanks from when she was away from Jude at different points in the story, but you already got the bulk of the story from Jude's path. I think I lost interest before I finished. JRPGs are too long for multiple playthroughs close together.

It's not really worth it unless you care about trophies or planned to play through it again anyway. The differences are pretty minor.

Depends on whether you want to see some extra story bits (it's not much though) and net a few trophies. Make sure you have enough grade to get the EXP x 2 and EXP x 5 bonus from the grade shop though. This will help you breeze through the standard enemies.

As a refresher, if you have your save file for grade shop shenanigans to speed up the playthrough I'd say go for it.

Especially if it's 2 years ago.

BUT on the other hand, consider that Xillia 2 does retread a lot of ground (locations, not story), so you might be more susceptible to burnout playing them back to back.

I guess that's a no then. :p

For the record I've already beaten Xillia 2 a while ago, but I was just wondering whether Milla's route in Xillia 1 was worth another playthrough. If there's not much of a difference then I'm probably not going to go through with it.

I guesss all that's left for me is to finish up the DLC then wait for Berseria.
 
I guess that's a no then. :p

For the record I've already beaten Xillia 2 a while ago, but I was just wondering whether Milla's route in Xillia 1 was worth another playthrough. If there's not much of a difference then I'm probably not going to go through with it.

Honestly, it's kinda boring unless you really really like playing as Milla.
 

MechaX

Member
Well that's Rose's role in the entire game. In the main story they all but shouted at us that she could do everything perfectly, including being a better Shephard than Sorey. She's kind an obnoxious character that has to outdo everyone.

And this is why Rose just kinda irks me. She just borderlines on Poochie-levels of irk-ness. I understand that Rose is supposed to be a good and fun character if I get used to her, but holy shit game, let me get used to her first.

And on the subject of her day job,
I know the writers probably did not put too much thought into malevolence, like, at all, but all I can say is that there is a reason why taking a life is often regarded as a very, very, very weighty decision. Rose just halfass deflects it with shit like "Well it's not like we don't do research before getting stabby-stabby!" despite the fact that she has probably murdered a lot of people in cold-blood and upclose. The game may think she's in some moral grey area (or not, because the seraphim literally say she is uncorruptible and pure), but what she shows is literally sociopathic behavior by the very definition of the term. And I am definitely not expecting the game to handle this issue with any sort of skill either.
 

SolVanderlyn

Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
What bugged me about Rose was her condescending attitude, sure, but mostly the fact that
she supposedly leads an elite assassin's guild and still manages to do this while traveling with Sorey and keep up both roles with no problem, despite her never doing anything assassin related on screen. Her ability to kill people and shrug it off also makes her seem like a really bad person in general. Sociopathic, even.
 

Sandfox

Member
Rose is a terrible character and it feels like there is as something going on with this game based on the writing in general. It feels like every Tales game over the past few years have been rushed.
 
Rose is a terrible character and it feels like there is as something going on with this game based on the writing in general. It feels like every Tales game over the past few years have been rushed.
Feels like? Im almost certain they have at this point. Go play abyss,vesperia,symphonia than play graces f(screw u asbel), xillia and zestria. A whole different experience(in a bad way)
 
Rose is a terrible character and it feels like there is as something going on with this game based on the writing in general. It feels like every Tales game over the past few years have been rushed.

It does, doesn't it? Though I admit I rather liked the Xillia games. The first more than the second. Xillia 2 was so rehashed it's not even amusing. Half the time when going to a "new" place, my first thought was "I already played this game."
 
What bugged me about Rose was her condescending attitude, sure, but mostly the fact that
she supposedly leads an elite assassin's guild and still manages to do this while traveling with Sorey and keep up both roles with no problem, despite her never doing anything assassin related on screen. Her ability to kill people and shrug it off also makes her seem like a really bad person in general. Sociopathic, even.
And I dislike how they use it to make her look superior to Sorey for it. Rose is a better shepherd because she kills people and part of her role is to make Sorey learn how to do it. That could have been an interesting arc with better writing and if Rose wasn't such a Mary Sueish character, but as is it just feels like another way for Rose to show off how perfect she is.
 

Sandfox

Member
You think so? I thought vesperia was like for the most part one of the best tales games,ps3 version even more so. Heck I've enjoyed legendia more than i am zestria right now
I'm sure quite a bit of the PS3 version content was created during the development of the 360 version.
The writing and character arcs were still a hell of a lot more cohesive than in Zestiria.
Of course. I would say every other modern Tales game was better in that regard.
 
Just finished the god awful water temple. I feel like im really jus fighting this out at this point. I want to finish but they only characters i like are edna and meebo(lol). The equipment crap sucks,sorey is..eh and this story isn't what i was expecting
 

RPGCrazied

Member
Finally got past the fire trial. That was kinda annoying. Yeah, this game is taking me forever to beat. Only cause I don't play PS4 during the week. That will change come Thanksgiving holiday, I need to finish it by the time XCX comes out.
 

ULTROS!

People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
Vesperia was either rushed or had a ton of content cut lol.

I never played it (nor the PS3 version) but how did it fee cut?

Graces, Symphonia, Abyss, and Hearts R are probably the only Tales that I've played that don't feel rushed towards the end.
 

Peff

Member
I'm sure quite a bit of the PS3 version content was created during the development of the 360 version.

Yes, but that doesn't make it rushed. The original game is very much content complete, even stuff like playable Flynn is obviously meant to be a one-off.
 
Best soundtrack of the series. I liked the game, despite Shirely being annoying. I really liked it, definitely not a ToL hater.
My man!! High five! Senel coolidge is still one of my favorite tales protags, and i agree Shirley sucks but jay,moses,grune,bubbles"norma"...i gotta pull the ps2 out now
 

Firestorm

Member
A lil off topic but sense we are talking bout different tales games might as well ask. How do people feel about legendia? Never see it get talked bout
Best soundtrack, felt like a step back combat-wise, the second half of the game being unvoiced gets a lot of flak but I was just super happy it existed and wish more games did something like that. Basically the main plot is resolved like halfway through and the last half of the game is character quests that explore the backstories of your cast more.
 
Best soundtrack, felt like a step back combat-wise, the second half of the game being unvoiced gets a lot of flak but I was just super happy it existed and wish more games did something like that. Basically the main plot is resolved like halfway through and the last half of the game is character quests that explore the backstories of your cast more.
Always wondered why it wasn't voiced. Budget maybe? I wouldn't mind a remake/remaster of legendia whoooo boy
 

Sandfox

Member
I never played it (nor the PS3 version) but how did it fee cut?

Graces, Symphonia, Abyss, and Hearts R are probably the only Tales that I've played that don't feel rushed towards the end.
A lot of the stuff is more like side content outside of a character possibly as opposed to what happened with games like Xillia.
Yes, but that doesn't make it rushed. The original game is very much content complete, even stuff like playable Flynn is obviously meant to be a one-off.
I also, said that this could've simply been done for the PS3 version and it seems likely to me.
 

SolVanderlyn

Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Tales of Destiny is underappreciated. The PS2 remake is legit the best Tales game. That aerial battle system. The gorgeous 2D. The fun cast and added skits. Elemental talking swords. Ahhhhh! I need to play the special edition some day.

And that amazing first battle theme
 
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