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Team Bondi's L.A. NOIRE |OT| Watchin' Faces, Solvin' Cases

AwesomeSauce

MagsMoonshine
Who ever said that this game reminds them of Shenmue is spot on. I feel like some sound effects are ripped straight from the game lol. I think the whole examining items and flipping through the notebook reminds me the most of Shenmue.

Anyway i am absolutely enjoying this game and to top it off i only paid a penny for this game and a free 20$ game. :)
 

AcciDante

Member
MuseManMike said:
I am not enjoying how the interrogations whatsoever.
I was under the assumption I'd be able to ask questions like in a speech tree, and trap people with the aid of evidence. Instead, it's like a matching game that is not very well done. I hope this frustration is simply a result of my unfamiliarity with how the game works. Besides that, I am enjoying the game.
Yeah, this is how I feel. Most of these just seem like a toss up, and you're not allowed to ask around. Just pick something, and if you're wrong, you've exhausted that point in one question.
 
AwesomeSauce said:
Who ever said that this game reminds them of Shenmue is spot on. I feel like some sound effects are ripped straight from the game lol. I think the whole examining items and flipping through the notebook reminds me the most of Shenmue.

Anyway i am absolutely enjoying this game and to top it off i only paid a penny for this game and a free 20$ game. :)

This is absolutely a good thing.
 

Tiktaalik

Member
I'm enjoying the game a lot so far but I just encountered the problem I seem to always encounter with adventure games, which is that I did something that I thought was entirely logical, but it wasn't what the game designer intended, and so it was (seemingly?) wrong.

On I believe the second traffic case, the hit and run, "A Marriage Made in Heaven" I did the following which I don't believe resulted in a positive outcome.
I noted earlier that the victim's wallet had money in it and in the interrogation, when the woman mentioned that her husband had no more money for gambling, I selected the lie option and selected the wallet. It made sense to me that the woman was lying because the man still had money. Seemingly this was incorrect though, as the storyline didn't continue and instead the interrogation was suddenly halted
. I'm not exactly sure what you were supposed to do in this interrogation to get the best solution, but I feel what I did was correct.
 

watershed

Banned
I played it for an hour or so. My only disappointment right now is that you don't actually get to ask questions during the interrogations. I thought you would have dialogue trees or something to coax more out of people but really its more like Ace Attorney style. Also is there a way to get people to repeat something they just said? Sometimes I want to see/hear it again but I don't know how to.
 
artwalknoon said:
I played it for an hour or so. My only disappointment right now is that you don't actually get to ask questions during the interrogations. I thought you would have dialogue trees or something to coax more out of people but really its more like Ace Attorney style. Also is there a way to get people to repeat something they just said? Sometimes I want to see/hear it again but I don't know how to.

press start go to log
 

Not a Jellyfish

but I am a sheep
Okay people, give me tips on how to read people. I am apparently really bad at it.

How do you know they are telling the truth, when you should doubt them, and if they are lying?
 
Not a Jellyfish said:
Okay people, give me tips on how to read people. I am apparently really bad at it.

How do you know they are telling the truth, when you should doubt them, and if they are lying?
if their left eye blinks twice rapidly, then waits a few seconds and blinks again while they are saying something, then whatever they're saying during the third blink is a lie
 

saunderez

Member
Not a Jellyfish said:
Okay people, give me tips on how to read people. I am apparently really bad at it.

How do you know they are telling the truth, when you should doubt them, and if they are lying?
You've got to base it on the evidence. If someone is saying something that matches up with what you think happened and you don't have evidence to disprove it they're probably telling the truth. If what they are saying contradicts what you think has happened but you don't have any evidence to prove it pick Doubt. If what they are saying contradicts what you think has happened and you have evidence to prove it pick Lie.
 

DrBo42

Member
Tiktaalik said:
I'm enjoying the game a lot so far but I just encountered the problem I seem to always encounter with adventure games, which is that I did something that I thought was entirely logical, but it wasn't what the game designer intended, and so it was (seemingly?) wrong.

On I believe the second traffic case, the hit and run, "A Marriage Made in Heaven" I did the following which I don't believe resulted in a positive outcome.
I noted earlier that the victim's wallet had money in it and in the interrogation, when the woman mentioned that her husband had no more money for gambling, I selected the lie option and selected the wallet. It made sense to me that the woman was lying because the man still had money. Seemingly this was incorrect though, as the storyline didn't continue and instead the interrogation was suddenly halted
. I'm not exactly sure what you were supposed to do in this interrogation to get the best solution, but I feel what I did was correct.

Haha oh man. You can't be that literal!
 
Not a Jellyfish said:
Okay people, give me tips on how to read people. I am apparently really bad at it.

How do you know they are telling the truth, when you should doubt them, and if they are lying?

Get yourself a mirror (or even better, tape yourself) and pretend your girlfriend found your secret porn stash under the bed.

Your answer to her inquiry:
"Wow how did that get there?". The movement of your face --> Doubt

Your answer to her follow up question: "That's not mine!" The face-movement and voice-volume --> Lie

OBJECTION !
GF presents evidence: Porn Stash

Your testimony to her objection:

"Yes it's mine because you're just not doin it for me anymore....." --> Truth


Look at your face while doing this and you're all set for LA Noire. :D
 

Fjordson

Member
Not a Jellyfish said:
Okay people, give me tips on how to read people. I am apparently really bad at it.

How do you know they are telling the truth, when you should doubt them, and if they are lying?
Don't focus only on reading them. Keep the evidence of the case in mind. If you're going to accuse them of lying about something make sure you've got hard evidence to back it up.
 

Lord Error

Insane For Sony
The Lamp said:
As awesome as the facial animation is, the eyes are terrible. Glassy and unfocused. Uncharted/2 at least seemed to understand how to properly animate eyes, since they're the most important part of the face we focus on.

I'm watching these beautiful faces harbor dead, motionless eyes and it's very uncanny and annoying.
Yeah, that's my main complaint about their technique as well, aside that it can't be used on original characters that is. Eyes and teeth look like stickers.

iratA said:
As much as I love the Uncharted games, eye detail and animations were probably my single biggest complaint. Eyes are tough and need a lot of attention. I think Heavy Rain had the best looking eyes so far this gen, although animations could still use some work. LA Noire's facial tech really is special though and is the big attention grabber.
What Buckethead and The Lamp were commenting about is not mutually exclusive. In UC2, the eyeballs animation was simply great, but in terms of look, they had glassiness (on some character more than others) that was sometimes distracting. They've done an amazing job with that in UC3 though, by far the best so far. This cutscene between Drake and Sullytalking in a dark room looks so amazing - the one the released afterwards not quite as much, but was supposedly early.

styl3s said:
maybe a few years down the road they will develop some kind of a harness cam for the shoulders/chest that allows people to move around it track their entire head/face while wearing mocap suits
Something like what's done for Avatar, basically. In there they didn't record whole video of the face, but just used the footage for the reference points. It's a much better approach in my opinion as it allows for applying that data to any imaginary character design, and it scales up to any high definition 3D model, where this full video capture simply wouldn't.

I'm bigger fan of animating things manually though. All facial animation in Uncharted games is done manually for example. Pixar does things that way too of course, for all of their animation. The artistry comes though when doing things this way, but it's not always applicable for showcasing real world look, and requires the amount of talent few people have. I think it's a bummer that in this game, any time any animation looks great is where they used some kind of capture system. Any time anything had to be animated manually, like all of gameplay, looks really bad. It's like they didn't even wanted to use any effort on that and just wanted to automate things as much as possible.
 
Just reached the Vice Cases. Severely disappointed in the Homicide cases. I figured it
was the temp bartender during the 2nd time he was mentioned ...that "some temp bartender" was hired and the pattern the killings
. Thought it would be more challenging (IMO) but I'm still loving the game so far AND I MEAN LOVE. Bought it at 12 pm start playing at 1pm and now its 4 am and I am still playing :p
 
Holy crap is this game addicting, its 4am and I dont want to stop. Its so satisfying calling everything right when questioning someone. Hope the cases just keep getting better.
 

Guts Of Thor

Thorax of Odin
What the fuck is up with Amazon and their crappy shipping lately?

I paid for release date delivery and this morning it was in Phoenix(I'm in NM) and now it's in fucking Ontario CA! Might be time for me to start using another site to buy games.
 

Fantastical

Death Prophet
Wow, this game really makes me want to play more Phoenix Wright. What a shame Investigations 2 isn't coming over here.

I've finally got the hang of interrogations. I still screw it up at least one time per case, but it's getting better. I'm enjoying the game quite a bit excluding the overworld. Maybe it gets more interesting with time?
 

Zertez

Member
Guts Of Thor said:
What the fuck is up with Amazon and their crappy shipping lately?

I paid for release date delivery and this morning it was in Phoenix(I'm in NM) and now it's in fucking Ontario CA! Might be time for me to start using another site to buy games.
I agree. Amazons shipping has been spotty lately. It really isnt Amazons fault, but UPS and Fedex seems to put Amazon on very low priority. One thing Ive noticed is when it is shipped in a box that clearly says Amazon in large print, I get poor shipping service, but when it is a plain package with little Amazon branding, I get the normal service.
 

Truant

Member
I've been away from this thread for a while, but is it agreed upon that the PS3 version is superior in terms of graphics? I know the differences are probably small, but I just want to know.
 

JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
Zertez said:
PS3 version looks better to me. 360 just looks like the brightness is turned up more than the PS3.

There's a bit more to it than that, but, yeah, the PS3 version comes out on top.
 

JonCha

Member
My GAME order is being prepped for dispatch. Hopefully I'll be getting it tomorrow because I'm pumped for this game.

Don't tell me people are thinking this game is bad? A lot of negativity floating around.
 

DrBo42

Member
JaseC said:
There's a bit more to it than that, but, yeah, the PS3 version comes out on top.
Been playing the PS3 version all day and it is definitely not a looker, nor does it perform well. If the cases weren't so engaging to me it would be pretty distracting.
 

JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
DrBo42 said:
Been playing the PS3 version all day and it is definitely not a looker, nor does it perform well. If the cases weren't so engaging to me it would be pretty distracting.

And? All reports thus far point to it being the version to get over the X360 version. You'll notice that at no point did I say LA Noire is the shining beacon of visual and performance prowess on either platform.

The game looks and performs better on the PS3, by all accounts, which is all I was saying. (I'm not sure how you could argue otherwise.)
 

IMACOMPUTA

Member
The game has some MAJOR framerate problems on the xbox 360. I don't know if its specific to the console or the game in general, but it's pretty crappy!

I love the game though. I will survive.
 
hmmm Amazon just increased the store credit you get for this game from $15 to $20... Of course they'd do it AFTER fulfilling preorders...
 

AcciDante

Member
Not a Jellyfish said:
Okay people, give me tips on how to read people. I am apparently really bad at it.

How do you know they are telling the truth, when you should doubt them, and if they are lying?
After the characters are done talking and you have to decide what option to go with, just let them sit there. I'm not going to say it always happens, but very often, they seem to get into a looping facial animation that's easy to read. Sometimes it's comically obvious.
 

DrBo42

Member
JaseC said:
And? All reports thus far point to it being the version to get over the X360 version. You'll notice that at no point did I say LA Noire is the shining beacon of visual and performance prowess on either platform.

The game looks and performs better on the PS3, by all accounts, which is all I was saying. (I'm not sure how you could argue otherwise.)

Not saying that it's not the version to get, it definitely is. I'm just saying that as the best version, it's still pretty bad. Trying to at least give a warning to people picking it up that might think the PS3 version has no issues.
 

JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
DrBo42 said:
Not saying that it's not the version to get, it definitely is. I'm just saying that as the best version, it's still pretty bad. Trying to at least give a warning to people picking it up that might think the PS3 version has no issues.

Ah, right. Still, even if they find themselves disappointed with the performance and/or visuals it's not as though there's a superior platform available at this particular juncture! (And there probably won't be. Ever. :eek:)
 

Equus Bellator Apex

Junior Member
Guts Of Thor said:
What the fuck is up with Amazon and their crappy shipping lately?

I paid for release date delivery and this morning it was in Phoenix(I'm in NM) and now it's in fucking Ontario CA! Might be time for me to start using another site to buy games.
I'll laugh hard if I get my copy before you

Then'll I cry because you're not playing it
 

Tr4nce

Member
Arghh! You're making me crazy gaf, with all these impressions :) Nice!

However, I keep reading that some people had to start their interrogations over again? Why is that? I thought this game would let you solve cases in multiple ways? Like, multiple outcomes were possible? Could someone explain this to me, please? What is there, that you can do not correctly about the interrogations?

Cheers.
 

Stampy

Member
Tiktaalik said:
On I believe the second traffic case, the hit and run, "A Marriage Made in Heaven" I did the following which I don't believe resulted in a positive outcome.
I noted earlier that the victim's wallet had money in it and in the interrogation, when the woman mentioned that her husband had no more money for gambling, I selected the lie option and selected the wallet. It made sense to me that the woman was lying because the man still had money. Seemingly this was incorrect though, as the storyline didn't continue and instead the interrogation was suddenly halted
. I'm not exactly sure what you were supposed to do in this interrogation to get the best solution, but I feel what I did was correct.

Lol, the same thing happened to me on that same traffic case (second one) but with different question.
She said something like that her husband just bought a new pair of glass, but while investigating the body, Cole noted that the glasses were in fact used ones that were recently repaired (which is also listed in the evidence), so I told her that she is lying. But Cole started accusing her for some other stuff, and she got mad. -_-
 

Angst

Member
Just got an e-mail from my local retailer. Game is in the mail and I will hopefully get it tomorrow! Nice, can't wait to play it. I have sort of been avoiding this thread lately, but I did watch the 15 min kotaku video and things look good.
 

cacophony

Member
Tr4nce said:
Arghh! You're making me crazy gaf, with all these impressions :) Nice!

However, I keep reading that some people had to start their interrogations over again? Why is that? I thought this game would let you solve cases in multiple ways? Like, multiple outcomes were possible? Could someone explain this to me, please? What is there, that you can do not correctly about the interrogations?

Cheers.

I'm 25% through and the first interrogation is the only one I've had to start over until I got everything right. I think it was just trying to teach you how to do everything properly or something. After that you either respond correctly and get a check by that question or not and get an x. Then after the mission it tells you how many you got right.
 

JonCha

Member
Two people hope that GAME will send out L.A. Noire today, and then I literally get this (from GAME) in my inbox:

Your order has left the building and will be with you soon! Your credit/debit card will now be charged in accordance with your instructions and if you are a Reward Member your points will be added to your card.

I will laugh hard if I get this today.
 

Tr4nce

Member
cacophony said:
I'm 25% through and the first interrogation is the only one I've had to start over until I got everything right. I think it was just trying to teach you how to do everything properly or something. After that you either respond correctly and get a check by that question or not and get an x. Then after the mission it tells you how many you got right.

Ok, thanks. Not fully understanding it yet, but I think I know what you mean.
 

Lakitu

st5fu
JonCha said:
Two people hope that GAME will send out L.A. Noire today, and then I literally get this (from GAME) in my inbox:



I will laugh hard if I get this today.

... I'm glued to my inbox now. If Game doesn't send that notification out today then it's blatant favouritism.
 
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