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Team Bondi's L.A. NOIRE |OT| Watchin' Faces, Solvin' Cases
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DevelopmentArrested
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Wait, the shooting mexhanics are worse than GTA4?? How is that even possible.
Net_Wrecker
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DevelopmentArrested said:
Well lack of Euphoria for starters.
JetBlackPanda
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in the videos I have seen the shooting looks almost exactly like RDR.
VeryGooster
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Phelps seriously has the best faces. :lol
This review gives me doubts again.Genesis IV said:
I dont need a ton of side things to do, but if you are just shuffled from one location to another, a large scale city seems like a waste imo. Something I never thought about is they are trying to capture the emotions, sentiments and feel of America and LA during the time period, but it seems very little people from America are working on it. Guess others feel the same when US developers depict other nations and times in games.The Guardian said:
Zertez said:
It actually makes me more excited, because I don't want a GTA game. I want an adventure game, being marketed as a GTA game to get sales. If there were no combat at all in the game, that might even be better for me!
As for the nationality of people working on the game, why does it even matter? You're taking about capturing the mood and feeling of a post-war America. How many people working on videogames today were even born in that time period, American or otherwise? It's not like we're talking about first hand experience here. Anyone working on the game would have to do research and read up on it or watch documentaries. Doesn't matter if they're American.
duckroll said:It actually makes me more excited, because I don't want a GTA game. I want an adventure game, being marketed as a GTA game to get sales. If there were no combat at all in the game, that might even be better for me!
As for the nationality of people working on the game, why does it even matter? You're taking about capturing the mood and feeling of a post-war America. How many people working on videogames today were even born in that time period, American or otherwise? It's not like we're talking about first hand experience here. Anyone working on the game would have to do research and read up on it or watch documentaries. Doesn't matter if they're American.
I like the way you think, I am not too bothered if this isn't a typical sandbox game, there are many sandbox games to play anyway, I want a adventure game that is plot driven, with great pacing and a cinematic presentation with a story that is engaging. I am hoping we get a bit of Phoenix Wright in there when questioning suspects, and we get a big of Heavy Rain with the dialog and cinematic events.
Foliorum Viridum
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God I wish this was the case!duckroll said:
JetBlackPanda
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everything I read gets me more hyped
adriano999
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The game is not using euphoria, watch this video at around the 0:50 seconds mark http://uk.ign.com/videos/2011/05/11/la-noire-man-about-town-video-featureRankoSD said:
They're talking about things like going on dates in GTA IV, going to play darts with Roman, or stuff like poker and five finger filet in Red Dead Redemption. The actual world and how you traverse it isn't limited any more than those games. You can go where you want, when you want.Zertez said:
scorpscarx
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I wander if R* will ever make a PC title again.
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Deleted member 80556
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StuBurns said:
And it's not like it's all that immersive!
There's this one video of RDR that I can't seem to find that showed how if you were on "ragdoll mode" (i.e. you can't control your character) and were constantly shot from various sides, you would not fall at all, which meant you couldn't control John at all.
I agree with wanting an adventure game, but I also want to cruise around 40s LA and check out the sites. I dont need to go on a killing spree or go bowling, but I was hoping for a few things to do in the city outside of police work.duckroll said:It actually makes me more excited, because I don't want a GTA game. I want an adventure game, being marketed as a GTA game to get sales. If there were no combat at all in the game, that might even be better for me!
As for the nationality of people working on the game, why does it even matter? You're taking about capturing the mood and feeling of a post-war America. How many people working on videogames today were even born in that time period, American or otherwise? It's not like we're talking about first hand experience here. Anyone working on the game would have to do research and read up on it or watch documentaries. Doesn't matter if they're American.
I would guess not many working in the industry were alive during the time period, but I would imagine some have parents or grandparents who were. Several first hand accounts give a much more accurate picture of the time period. You can ask questions as well, if you feel something isnt right. It is tough for books to describe the complete hysteria of a town that is going through crazy times, compared to how a person sitting next to you can. Kind of like books describing the aftermath of the Abomb dropping, compared to someone who lived it. I know they are on different levels, but emotions are tough to research in books or watching movies. Im not upset or anything, I just found it a little odd is all.
Net_Wrecker
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StuBurns said:
Not only is it demanding, but you have to model your entire animation system and engine to it. It's not like just throwing ragdoll in there and calling it a day.
Juan29.zapata said:
That was EXTREMELY rare. Euphoria was almost perfected in RDR. In fact, there were many instances where Euphoria saved me from stumbling in certain situations where games like Saints Row, or Just Cause would've had me tumbling, or sliding.
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Net_Wrecker said:
Yeah, you're right.
Although the best instance of Euphoria that I've seen was from GTA4. I somehow managed to break Nico's back with a street light. It even cracked!
But that video was hilarious, must search for it.
Zertez said:
The thing about period pieces is that you have to realize that as you go back through time, the world and even large countries, were less and less connected. People living in various places generally have almost zero idea first hand of what another place was like at the time. The specific setting of LA would mean that even for Americans, unless their parents or grandparents lived in LA at the time, there isn't a whole lot of useful personal experience to draw on to create the mood and feel of the city. I think you'll be surprised to learn that most of the well regarded fiction in any medium which capture the moods and themes of period eras, generally aren't written/directed by someone who had first hand knowledge of the setting. Research goes a long way, and often it's about a lot more than just reading up. You interview people, talk to them, etc. But the nationality or personal family history of the guy making it rarely matters as much as his actual skills and the knowledge of the medium he's bringing the story to.
GTA games are little different though. They are modern day games set in fictional cities that are based off a real life city. GTA games are so far over the top, I dont care about inaccurate things, just like I dont care how unrealistic Saints Row is. They are not really trying to capture emotional feel or replicating "perfectly" a city during a time period when making a GTA city. LA Noire is trying to recreate 1947 LA perfectly and portray the feelings of the city during this time. Like I said it isnt a deal breaker for me, I just found it odd. I guess no one else thought about something similar when American developers are depicting their own country.StuBurns said:
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Zertez said:
Over the top? Did you really play GTA4? That was some serious game.
Although they boast a very accurate recreation of LA at the period, I'm not sure how realistic they're trying to go within the context of the game itself. It looks like they just want to make LA Confidential a game starring the Mad Man cast.Zertez said:
I thought of a non-UK game set in the UK, Resistance. I don't like it, not sure if it says anything about the fact it's not by English people though. I like R2 even less and it's not in England.
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CyReN said:
No. The vision is Team Bondi's but Rockstar had their hand in more than a few areas. Maybe 70-30 Bondi.
indigo-cyclops
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Still not sure what I should do about this game. With The Witcher 2 coming out, I'm just inclined to wait a bit longer... Though I've really been looking forward to it.
Any other folks weary?
Any other folks weary?
DevelopmentArrested
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Funny, ive heard the complete oppositeNet_Wrecker said:
indigo-cyclops
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duckroll said:
I also thought this was simply a Rockstar published game.
Net_Wrecker
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duckroll said:
I just read an interview where they said it was basically still a text adventure game up until last year, and the face capturing wasn't even fully implemented. So yeah, I'm pretty sure Rockstar had a hand in developing this. Looking at the radar, the map, the animations, etc. etc., they are clearly Rockstar.
Net_Wrecker said:
Is there any proof? Like have they said anything as such? Or are you just assuming? A lot of the familiar looking map and interface systems could simply be suggestions which were implemented by Bondi at the publisher's request. I haven't see any interview or report suggesting that Rockstar has any actual development stuff from North or San Diego working on this game at all.
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DevelopmentArrested said:
Montresor said:
Well, whatever the case, Rockstar clearly had a hand in developing this, and it has probably went through a ton of different iterations since the initial reveal trailer.