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Team Fortress 2 |OT2| Free 2 Play Forever
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The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
What possible reason is there to not use the BB over the regular flamethrower now?
MatthewB92
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Switch where you download it.leroidys said:
EmCeeGramr
Member
None at all. But then again, it's really just a choice between BB and Degreaser, which is still incredibly useful for puff'n'sting.The_Technomancer said:
MatthewB92
Member
Sad that you can't rocket jump with the flare gun. I had fun with that in the beta.
Only 4 airblasts, vs. 10 with the other flamethrowers. Trust me, it makes a big difference. It becomes an 'emergency-only' function rather than an 'anytime' utility as it is normally. Remember, airblast uses the same ammo as your normal flames. Losing a quarter of your ammo for a single airblast isn't that big a deal, but most situations where the airblast is useful require you to spam it a few times (holding up ubers, reflecting rockets, etc.).The_Technomancer said:
That said, it's definitely a boost to the backburner. You don't really notice the slight damage nerf too much (especially if you're burning backs), but you definitely feel it when the ability to airblast saves your ass.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
Backburner now is a much more viable weapon, thank god. Sucks for the melee weapons though, now melee combat is worse.
By the way, thank god they fixed the katana glitch. That's why Accidante sometimes killed me in one hit with a non-crit in our katana duels.
By the way, thank god they fixed the katana glitch. That's why Accidante sometimes killed me in one hit with a non-crit in our katana duels.
Sweet shit they nerfed so many items I loved.
Ullapool Caber was once a great suicide weapon, now it's just a weapon that gets you killed faster while your foe trots off.
Battalion's Backup more like Battalion's maybe back you up if I survive attacks that could kill me three times over.
Powerjack is more or less useless.
Fists of Steel... ok that was overpowered and should have been nerfed. BUT STILL.
And how useless is the Southern Hospitality now? Nobody used that thing, but they nerfed it for some reason. You make your opponent bleed for six seconds at the expensive of -25% damage and 20% fire resistance? Oh joy!
I'm glad the Sydney Sleeper got a buff though. Body shotters, unite!
Ullapool Caber was once a great suicide weapon, now it's just a weapon that gets you killed faster while your foe trots off.
Battalion's Backup more like Battalion's maybe back you up if I survive attacks that could kill me three times over.
Powerjack is more or less useless.
Fists of Steel... ok that was overpowered and should have been nerfed. BUT STILL.
And how useless is the Southern Hospitality now? Nobody used that thing, but they nerfed it for some reason. You make your opponent bleed for six seconds at the expensive of -25% damage and 20% fire resistance? Oh joy!
I'm glad the Sydney Sleeper got a buff though. Body shotters, unite!
Server update is finished.
I disabled the built-in voting and enabled silk (even though it's enabled by default).
Also, I found out something last night about arena. Apparently it splits the players into 3 even teams. Two that play and one that sits out. Since I had it set at 24 players it meant teams maxed out at 8 players per team. I upped it to 32 (though I'm not sure that will work without some kind of mod) so that 11 people can play per team. On a full server 2 people will still have to sit out per round, but it's better than 8 people sitting out...
I disabled the built-in voting and enabled silk (even though it's enabled by default).
Also, I found out something last night about arena. Apparently it splits the players into 3 even teams. Two that play and one that sits out. Since I had it set at 24 players it meant teams maxed out at 8 players per team. I upped it to 32 (though I'm not sure that will work without some kind of mod) so that 11 people can play per team. On a full server 2 people will still have to sit out per round, but it's better than 8 people sitting out...
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
Seriously, what's the fucking point of melee now? Apart from the Axtinguisher. Eyelander and Caber were the only melee weapons I used regularly sans Axtinguisher.
The idea behind the -25% melee nerf is that
I don't agree with the powerjack vulnerability at all though. Someone at SPUF pointed out that with the melee vulnerability from the powerjack, the bullet vulnerability form the grease jockey set and the explosive vulnerability from the detonator a pyro with that setup will take extra damage from just about everything.
- You shouldn't balance weapons around something that's a random chance (crits).
- Lots of servers disable crits outright, meaning that said weapons actually didn't really have a downside.
I don't agree with the powerjack vulnerability at all though. Someone at SPUF pointed out that with the melee vulnerability from the powerjack, the bullet vulnerability form the grease jockey set and the explosive vulnerability from the detonator a pyro with that setup will take extra damage from just about everything.
Yeah it's odd to see Valve give the Demo so many damn melee weapons and then nerf half of them.Sgt.Pepper said:
It's also odd that Valve is considering this a "major" update, the last one before this being Australian Christmas. Does that mean we have to wait four more months for the Detonator?
Well, they just balanced melee weapons by adding random chance (crits) to several of them, didn't they? I agree that it seems odd to nerf the southern hospitality. Eyelander achievements will probably now be even harder to get, and my stickyjumping caber days may be over. QQYeef said:
Melee vulnerability for the powerjack is weird, since it's not like the fists of steel where you could use them to try to strategically cross an area covered by a sentry/enemy fire (out of melee range). You would only be using the powerjack when you are WITHIN melee range of enemies.
I thought at first they had increased the sydney sleeper charge TIME and I was very confused, lol.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
Can the caber still kill snipers in one hit? Stickyjumping in 2fort was really fun, I hope they didn't take that away from me.
Edit: How the hell will I get the "No time to bleed" achievement with the Equalizer nerf?
Edit 2: This update is taking forever, I wanna see how it runs now.
Edit: How the hell will I get the "No time to bleed" achievement with the Equalizer nerf?
Edit 2: This update is taking forever, I wanna see how it runs now.
The Eyelander achievements are/were fairly easy to get in medieval mode. The katana still counts towards those achievements.Blizzard said:
I'll lay off TF2 tonight, the loadouts are messed up and everyone's getting kicked because of the lack of connection to the Steam server. I do want to try that Sydney Sleeper though.
Wolf Akela
Member
Really really stupid to give the Eyelander -25% damage. The initial health debuff is already enough.
FUCK YEAH
ArtistDude88
Member
Maximum janky all around!
GAF avatars aren't working
Steam downloads spiking/horribly slow
Can't access backpack or change load out in TF2
Can't get use to the audio dim when talking in TF2
TF2 server crashin'
:U
GAF avatars aren't working
Steam downloads spiking/horribly slow
Can't access backpack or change load out in TF2
Can't get use to the audio dim when talking in TF2
TF2 server crashin'
:U
Incidentally, I just did the new training achieve. Had to redo all of them a couple times as it kept crashing during the engineer training, and you need to do all of them in one sitting for the achieve. Goddamn that was painful. Goddamn that new dynamic loading nonsense. I keep getting crashes that say dynamic mesh blah blah blah. Fucking valve.
Although, I don't know if that's related to the update, but, I never got those error messages before.It definitely sounds related since they made some model loading update and said it makes the game use much less memory. You'd assume they tested all this stuff but I guess people have too many different configurations for them to be sure.yeoz said:Incidentally, I just did the new training achieve. Had to redo all of them a couple times as it kept crashing during the engineer training, and you need to do all of them in one sitting for the achieve. Goddamn that was painful. Goddamn that new dynamic loading nonsense. I keep getting crashes that say dynamic mesh blah blah blah. Fucking valve.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
Getting the max heads is pretty hard.esc said:
It's reasonably difficult with the eyelander's current attributes. But if the only debuff was the health penalty I would be playing demoknight 90% of the time to start a round. Well I would if I still main'd demo. Not saying I like the dmg penalty though. No crits is better.Sgt.Pepper said:
I got this with the samurai sword on Degroot. A lot of people wield that thing, and it one hit kills anyone using it, so you can wreck house with it if you're lucky enough. Not to mention, each kill restores you to full health, so it's useful for fighting off groups.Blizzard said:
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
The Katana in Degroot makes this laughable though.Blizzard said:
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
J:ArtistDude88 said:
Grimm Fandango
Member
Sgt.Pepper said:
I've gotten max heads on a few occasions on CTF Well.
Steam voice send/receive volume is max, TF2 voice volume send/receive is max, Windows 7 mixer is set to even across all applications except for TF2 which gets put really low. If I change it back to normal so I can actually hear ingame sound effects and people talking, it works, but when I press and release the mic button it instantly turns the Windows 7 mixer TF2-specific volume back down to like 20%, without turning it back up. I literally almost completely can't hear game sound effects with that volume level, without manually turning it back up.
Is there any way around this?
Is there any way around this?
Odd, it looks like you may also get a cube pin if you preorder Portal 2. Does that mean there will be two version of that pin going around?
http://www.teamfortress.com/companioncubepin/
Maybe the one for the Potato pack will change once this one comes out?
http://www.teamfortress.com/companioncubepin/
Maybe the one for the Potato pack will change once this one comes out?
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