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Teen Wolf (Season 5) |OT| Watch your (six) pack.
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Monocle
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Yes. Wait, was he the murderer or was it the guy without the mouth? I don't know, I was distracted.
Well, Braeden is back. I think Jeff Davis said that opens the door for Derek's return. I'm guessing it hinges on a contract thing. It probably comes down to what Hoechlin wants to do.
Lol, same. Theo might be buff, but my body is like a steel trap, ergonomically designed for hunk clinging. The key is lower body strength and a strong jaw.
Hours Left
Member
They both killed people, but Sean just ate people up. The Mute used the axe. Both are hot.
(Joseph Gatt, the actor the played The Mute has an absolutely ridiculous body.)
Come home Hoechlin.
Monocle
Member
WTF, he was that albino in Banshee? I feel like maybe I knew this before, but I must have totally blanked it out.
This show's casting. Damn.
I know what I want to be when I grow up: a Teen Wolf casting director. I'd be so good at it!
If Dylan O'Brien is willing to stick around even after landing starring roles in mainstream films, the least Hoechlin can do is come back and favor us with his shredded bod and scruffy frowns again.
Blood Diamonds
Banned
What can they even do with Derek anymore? He became a shifter, is at peace with the hale stuff, etc. Maybe they'll make him win fights if he comes back? I don't see what he's needed for tbh
KibblesBits
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Monocle
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No, so he can stand around and brood and get into amusing, vaguely homoerotic situations with Stiles and be shirtless.
You know, important story stuff.
KibblesBits
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Braeden put a stop to that a while back.
Mmmm, Braeden. Now just bring back Deaton's sister and I'll be a happy.
Hours Left
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I'd like to see him actually be happy for an extended period of time.
He also still hasn't totally resolved stuff with Peter.
This too. Though no more Sterek please unless they are actually gonna do something legit with it.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Monocle
Member
Braeden needs to understand that hunks can't be tamed.
This would be nice to see.
I can honestly say I've never been on the Sterek train. Stiles is a sexual nonentity to me. Dylan's a handsome kid, but I've always seen him as a lovable goofball. Stiles and Derek are the best comedy duo. So good.
Oh, that would be my first priority. I'd have his participation written into my contract if I could.Bring Colton Haynes back pls if you get the job!
Man, I was so sad when he didn't come back for Season 3. One minute he's revived as a naked werewolf hunk, and the next he runs off to London? Too cruel.
Hours Left
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^ Colton is off Arrow now, so now's a good opportunity to bring him back.
I hope 5B has a ton of throwbacks. The majority of 5A was exclusively centered around the new (or at least newer) characters and relationship dynamics, which is great, but I feel like a bit of the expanded TW world that makes the series so endearing was missing.
I hope 5B has a ton of throwbacks. The majority of 5A was exclusively centered around the new (or at least newer) characters and relationship dynamics, which is great, but I feel like a bit of the expanded TW world that makes the series so endearing was missing.
Monocle
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This part of Price Peterson's latest recap really speaks to me.
I'm totally with you regarding the throwbacks. 5B should spend more time on classic character moments and old-school world building. The time is right, now that Scott's pack will have to rally together to chastise Theo's monster buddies. I hope they treat Theo gently, even though he was a very naughty hunk.
It's a good opportunity for Derek to come back too and give Scott a much needed pep talk. Scott's got to be reeling since he was penetrated by a buff chimera in five separate places.
Then Theo and his face gave Scott a weird pep talk about getting his sh*t together, and for good reason: Scott's friends were all scattered to the wind and/or dying in an animal clinic yet he was just sitting around snoozing. Luckily, Theo offered to rally the troops and help out however he could, because he is trustworthy and Scott trusts him and I trust him. Look at that face!
Every time I see Colton hanging out with current or former Teen Wolf cast members, my stomach drops and my heart leaps at the same time. The one thing I want from this show more than anything else is at least one more season with Jackson. I am dead serious. (I watched part of a Season 1 episode the other day and my crush was instantly rekindled. His face is perfection.) In fact, the only thing I want in the world of television more than Jackson returning to Teen Wolf is a fourth season of Hannibal.
I'm totally with you regarding the throwbacks. 5B should spend more time on classic character moments and old-school world building. The time is right, now that Scott's pack will have to rally together to chastise Theo's monster buddies. I hope they treat Theo gently, even though he was a very naughty hunk.
It's a good opportunity for Derek to come back too and give Scott a much needed pep talk. Scott's got to be reeling since he was penetrated by a buff chimera in five separate places.
Sorry, I had to.
Blood Diamonds
Banned
And also because he legitimetely came back from the dead (not "half dead" like with the Nemeton ritual) but actually dead. If coming back from being half dead fucked them up profoundly, then coming back from being actually dead should do some shit to him.
It probably won't, too much stuff to wrap up in 10 episodes already.
Hours Left
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Next day round up!!!!!!!!!!
TV.com Photo Recap
Den of Geek! Episode Review
Interviews with Jeff Davis Regarding Season 5B: (TV Line), (Entertainment Weekly)
Note: Interview Links Contain Spoilers
Ratings...
TV.com Photo Recap
Den of Geek! Episode Review
Interviews with Jeff Davis Regarding Season 5B: (TV Line), (Entertainment Weekly)
Note: Interview Links Contain Spoilers
Ratings...
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Blood Diamonds
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wtf? why? Is it because they knew Corey would come back as a zombie chimera and not as a cool werechameleon member of scott's pack?
Wait, wasn't teen wolf trending on twitter yesterday? That's really good so I think Davis has said that social media impact is just as important as ratings :0
Hours Left
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MTV doesn't put as much stock into traditional ratings because they are aiming for a younger demographic. The show gets a lot of social buzz and online views, and I think it's apparent that MTV is satisfied with the show's performance as they've already commissioned season 6 before 5B even airs.
Having said that, it's still MTV's highest rated scripted program even through the more traditional way of compiling ratings, it's just not at the same level it was in past seasons. But since it's the only type of ratings we see for the show, I still include them. (And as I said before, it's doing well for MTV regardless.)
Blood Diamonds
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Slay a bit Teen Wolf :")
EastOfEden
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Ok Liam is officially the worst character on the show. Can't wait for next season where they all spend 2 mins talking about him mauling/attempting to murder Scott then forgive him and act like it never happened. Ugh.
The writing for the villains this season is just terrible. Theo's whole plan was to manipulate everyone except Scott into his pack but he just made everyone hate him? Then he created his own pack at the last second. What was even the point of everything he did this season.
And the Dread Doctors, such boring & non-creepy villains. Was really hoping they would die this finale to make way for the next big bad like the Desert Wolf or someone.
At least the resurrected chimeras have potential to be interesting next season!
The writing for the villains this season is just terrible. Theo's whole plan was to manipulate everyone except Scott into his pack but he just made everyone hate him? Then he created his own pack at the last second. What was even the point of everything he did this season.
And the Dread Doctors, such boring & non-creepy villains. Was really hoping they would die this finale to make way for the next big bad like the Desert Wolf or someone.
At least the resurrected chimeras have potential to be interesting next season!
Blood Diamonds
Banned
When you think about it, Theo is a fucking dumbass. Not only did his original plan to become the leader of Scott's pack crash and burn in like one hour, but he:
1) Revived the girl who killed her Dad and doesn't know it
2) Revived the guy whose throat he ripped out
3) Revived the guy who's friends with Mason, one of Liam's friends and a direct connection to Scott
4) HE REVIVED THE GIRLFRIEND OF LIAM, SCOTT'S BETA, AND A DIRECT CONNECTION TO SCOTT AND HIS PACK.
an idiot
Monocle
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Well, he was desperate because the plan he'd been working at all season long fell apart. Also, Scott attacked his pride by calling him barely human. It's a safe bet that Theo feels like he has to prove to Scott that his kind is better.
Apart from that, I think most of the chimera kids would agree it's better to be not-dead than decorating the Nemeton with your corpse until it's burned up by a hunky hellhound. They plainly had some affinity for Theo during that resurrection scene. Whether it's because he revived them, or the Dread Doctor serum messed with their minds, or something else, we'll just have to wait to find out. If you think about it, Theo getting the chimera kids on his team was less risky than the delicate game he was playing with Scott's friends. Any one of the latter could have ruined everything. It's a risk worth taking though, right? Imagine if he'd been able to ally himself with a single member of Scott's pack. Every one of them, individually, are total badasses in their own way. The chimeras, in contrast, were all bit players more or less, and their social ties weren't nearly as strong.
The point is, Theo is still beautiful.
Blood Diamonds
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Agreed.
Monocle
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Blood Diamonds
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Monocle
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EastOfEden
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Yup. Maybe he'll betray the dread doctors now that he has a pack though, idk.
But how did it fall apart? He spent the entire season gaining everyone's trust which was smart, but then he up and reveals his true nature to Scott, Lydia and Styles at the last minute? Not to mention kidnapping Lydia and the Sheriff which is like exactly what you don't do to get someone to join your pack. "You'll understand and join me in time" isn't a plan, it's a terrible, nonsensical piece of writing made so they could wrap up that arc quickly and add more "drama".
Up until he told that lie about Donovan to Scott that would've been way too easy to verify, he was actually shaping up to be a cunning villain. I may also be writing bizarre soliloquies if Jeff Davis could actually follow through with some subtlety for once.
Yup. Maybe he'll betray the dread doctors now that he has a pack though, idk.
But how did it fall apart? He spent the entire season gaining everyone's trust which was smart, but then he up and reveals his true nature to Scott, Lydia and Styles at the last minute? Not to mention kidnapping Lydia and the Sheriff which is like exactly what you don't do to get someone to join your pack. "You'll understand and join me in time" isn't a plan, it's a terrible, nonsensical piece of writing made so they could wrap up that arc quickly and add more "drama".
Up until he told that lie about Donovan to Scott that would've been way too easy to verify, he was actually shaping up to be a cunning villain. I may also be writing bizarre soliloquies if Jeff Davis could actually follow through with some subtlety for once.
Yep the last minute "Oh sorry here is my entire plan" mess was just what. The writing was stupid and honestly took me out of it. His entire plan was never going to work anyways cause once Liam became Alpha then what? It wouldnt be Theo's pack all of a sudden and as we saw he cant take Alpha powers so..
Plasticine
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He might not be a shapeless blob, but he's easy to confuse for a homeless person.
This was a really poorly thought out plan. I really think 5A would have benefited from another episode or two to fill things out. It felt like they tried to tackle way too much material for the number of shows they had.
The clothing needs to be baggier, clearly.
Monocle
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Theo believed Scott's pack would rally behind a stronger leader when the pressure was on. He didn't grasp the depth of their friendship and loyalty because he hadn't watched 4 1/2 seasons of Teen Wolf. (We the audience aren't stuck in one character's point of view.) That, and at their worst, Lydia, Stiles, Liam, Malia, and Kira do kind of look like a league of teenage supervillains, especially from an outsider's perspective. They're powerful and troubled, and they've hurt people. I can see how Theo misjudged them. He didn't stick with the manipulation game for long enough because he thought they were already at breaking point when the super moon hit.Yup. Maybe he'll betray the dread doctors now that he has a pack though, idk.
But how did it fall apart? He spent the entire season gaining everyone's trust which was smart, but then he up and reveals his true nature to Scott, Lydia and Styles at the last minute? Not to mention kidnapping Lydia and the Sheriff which is like exactly what you don't do to get someone to join your pack. "You'll understand and join me in time" isn't a plan, it's a terrible, nonsensical piece of writing made so they could wrap up that arc quickly and add more "drama".
Up until he told that lie about Donovan to Scott that would've been way too easy to verify, he was actually shaping up to be a cunning villain. I may also be writing bizarre soliloquies if Jeff Davis could actually follow through with some subtlety for once.
It's an easy mistake to make when you're a lonely hunk and all that clothing is cutting off your blood circulation. It's no coincidence that Theo came up with a new and better plan shortly after his naked nature romp.
I think the way it's supposed to work is that a true alpha's powers can only be taken by one of its own betas, who would then become a regular alpha. Wasn't it the case that Theo is enough of a werewolf that he can steal a regular alpha's powers?
Liam kills Scott -> Theo steals Liam's powers but keeps him alive because he's strong and also cute -> Theo inherits Scott's sweet pack of supernatural teens.
You'd better try to post some better hunks if you're going to talk that talk, mister.
Blood Diamonds
Banned
Remember in Season 4 when Scott's eyes turned black and red and he almost killed someone? Are they ever going to explain that?
Monocle
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Which episode was that again? And who did he almost kill? Sorry, I'm blanking on most of Season 4.
Wafflecakes
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Why do I get the feeling that they intentionally have been downplaying Stiles since season 3B?....
My bet is that Tyler P. was bitching.
My bet is that Tyler P. was bitching.
Blood Diamonds
Banned
It's when Scott and Argent go looking for Kate and they get attacked by soldiers (?)
Scotts eyes turn black and red and he gets strong and almost kills one of the soldiers. IIRC it was never explained and it kind of just happened. Man, season 4 was so weird. Remember when Scott and his pack couldn't beat a Berserker but then a weaker, younger Derek fucked one up like it was nothing? And after that he returned to his normal age and we never knew why.
To borrow from an AVClub review earlier in the season, all of this throwing Theo at Malia (and to be fair to her she's not biting) shows the extent to which the show is trying to make Stiles out to be some shapeless blob.
Monocle
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Apparently they're very close friends in real life, so I doubt it.
Yeah, I have no idea what was going on there. That whole season was pretty whack. Definitely the weakest of them all. It did give us Liam though. (Yes, that's a good thing.)
Monocle
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You know that thing that happens where you see someone do some bad things and you think maybe they're not the nicest person and then when you're hanging out in your weird cave clutching your creepy doll and thinking about how your mom is a gunslinging psycho they show up in your cave without a stitch of clothing and they turn out to be a beautiful bronzed hunk who wants to help you? Well believe it or not, I found some pictures of this exact kind of scene and they're really something. Check it out.
What a refreshing sight. I don't know what it is about this guy, but I trust him so much. Don't you?
What a refreshing sight. I don't know what it is about this guy, but I trust him so much. Don't you?
Monocle
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To be fair, if he was black and hot I'd still forgive him for anything.
I hope Theo's redemption involves chains and yelling and maybe light slapping. I find that chains work best on shirtless guys who make a big show of straining against them and looking mad. Maybe Derek can come back and give Theo pointers. He's pretty good at shirtless chain straining.
Those character building scenes are tough to watch, but necessary. I feel like I wouldn't understand Derek at all if Kate hadn't licked his flexing abs. Thanks Kate.
I hope Theo's redemption involves chains and yelling and maybe light slapping. I find that chains work best on shirtless guys who make a big show of straining against them and looking mad. Maybe Derek can come back and give Theo pointers. He's pretty good at shirtless chain straining.
Those character building scenes are tough to watch, but necessary. I feel like I wouldn't understand Derek at all if Kate hadn't licked his flexing abs. Thanks Kate.
Wafflecakes
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ftfy
You don't see them hanging out a lot anymore.
...and even if they did. They doesn't exempt them from professional jealousy.
Monocle
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Without a direct indication that they had a falling out, it's all speculation. Dylan's been busy with his film career lately, which probably leaves less time for him to hang with Tyler between Teen Wolf shoots.
I don't know, it just seems weird to spin a narrative about best friends drifting apart or backstabbing each other based on practically nothing. I personally haven't noticed even a hint that anything like that might be going on.
Napoleonthechimp
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I finally caught up.
I have nothing much to add. Except I could've sworn Stiles accidentally killed that one guy, but yet they're behaving as if he intentionally did him in. Did I miss something?
I have nothing much to add. Except I could've sworn Stiles accidentally killed that one guy, but yet they're behaving as if he intentionally did him in. Did I miss something?
No, it's just awful writing. They've given all the characters idiot balls to hold onto, so none of them ask questions like, "Stiles, what happened?!" and then Stiles can describe how he was climbing to escape Bitey McHands, and how Bitey McHands got impaled.
Monocle
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I don't know how you guys intentionally kill people, but I always intentionally kill people by getting my victim to attack me with murderous intent so I can flee to a library with my victim in hot pursuit and climb up the scaffolding while my victim is still trying to kill me and then make all the junk fall on my victim in just the right way to impale them fatally.
Is there a better way? A more direct and reliable and less circumstantial way? I doubt it!
Is there a better way? A more direct and reliable and less circumstantial way? I doubt it!
Just caught up.
WHY AREN'T THEY TALKING TO EACH OTHER? Like jeez. If Scott had just said "tell me what happened, in your own words" it would be cleared up. If Stiles had just mentioned that HIS life was in danger too, this would be cleared up. And why would Scott believe some nobody like Theo so easily? Over Stiles? At least Lydia had some sense to say it's better when it's out in the open.
Theo is stupid and the worst. Are the dread doctors gong to be happy with him reviving all the "failures"?
WHY AREN'T THEY TALKING TO EACH OTHER? Like jeez. If Scott had just said "tell me what happened, in your own words" it would be cleared up. If Stiles had just mentioned that HIS life was in danger too, this would be cleared up. And why would Scott believe some nobody like Theo so easily? Over Stiles? At least Lydia had some sense to say it's better when it's out in the open.
Theo is stupid and the worst. Are the dread doctors gong to be happy with him reviving all the "failures"?
<+)O Robido O(+>
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Yep. Entire season could have been avoided with a bit of "hey pals this happened to me"
Monocle
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Don't hate on a charming and honest hunk just because the people he hangs with don't know how to hold a rational conversation.
If anything, Theo helped Scott and Stiles by showing them that their communication skills are severely impaired. What a cool and handsome guy, adored by wildlife, admired by grandfathers, and cherished by cats.
I'm certain that Scott and Stiles' friendship will emerge stronger than ever as a result of Theo's intervention.
If anything, Theo helped Scott and Stiles by showing them that their communication skills are severely impaired. What a cool and handsome guy, adored by wildlife, admired by grandfathers, and cherished by cats.
I'm certain that Scott and Stiles' friendship will emerge stronger than ever as a result of Theo's intervention.