MrCookiepants
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Oh, it's not that. There are people I used to play with regularly who no longer send invites since I started using Lili. And I can't blame them. She's really not fun to play against online.
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Tekken |OT2| Pulse of the Regionally Discriminated Knuckleheads
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Oh, it's not that. There are people I used to play with regularly who no longer send invites since I started using Lili. And I can't blame them. She's really not fun to play against online.
What's the full combo you're trying?
This was his T6 BnB:
d/f+2, 2,3 LFS 3~f LFS 1 LFF 2,4 RFS 2 RFF f,f+3 B! dash 3+4 RFF 3+4~f RFS b+4.
But now that has changed since his RFS d/f+4 or LFS d/f+3 bounds. His new BnB:
d/f+2 f+2 RFF f+3 LFS 3~f LFS d/f+3 B! dash 3+4~f RFS b+4
Way easier and more damage
Ooh, I didn't know RFS df+4 and LFS df+3 bound were new.What's the full combo you're trying?
This was his T6 BnB:
d/f+2, 2,3 LFS 3~f LFS 1 LFF 2,4 RFS 2 RFF f,f+3 B! dash 3+4 RFF 3+4~f RFS b+4.
But now that has changed since his RFS d/f+4 or LFS d/f+3 bounds. His new BnB:
d/f+2 f+2 RFF f+3 LFS 3~f LFS d/f+3 B! dash 3+4~f RFS b+4
Way easier and more damage
You made a small mistake. After 3+4 it's 3~4~f (you can also hold back which is easier). Same with the second combo.
@Xevren: The dash isn't necessary by the way. If you press f+3+4 he already does a step forward.
What's the full combo you're trying?
This was his T6 BnB:
d/f+2, 2,3 LFS 3~f LFS 1 LFF 2,4 RFS 2 RFF f,f+3 B! dash 3+4 RFF 3+4~f RFS b+4.
But now that has changed since his RFS d/f+4 or LFS d/f+3 bounds. His new BnB:
d/f+2 f+2 RFF f+3 LFS 3~f LFS d/f+3 B! dash 3+4~f RFS b+4
Way easier and more damage
Yea no idea why I was ignoring lfs d/f+3. I was trying so hard to land ff 3 combo's that I just overlooked it I guess.
New JDCR advice videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUihs9P1N24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhZWtd-6aYM
Seems like I was pretty much on point when I talked about JDCR utilizing option select movements. Not just him either, according to what he himself said, it's common among all top Korean players.
Just think about that situation with Law for a second. 1,1,2 is his primary jab punisher and leaves him at +6 on hit. That's a pretty significant frame advantage. When you take his overall short range into consideration though, a simple backdash into duck extremely diminishes his options. The only things that you really have to worry about is a low damage b2 into whatever, or him dashing in with something. If you guess right, you pretty much score a WS launcher with everything else. Characters with WS launchers that keep them ducking (Bob) are extra effective at this tactic.
These kinds of set ups require match up experience, but you can really simplify the game's defense when you keep them in mind. They're not even particularly hard to execute. You just need some solid reaction time. Never underestimate the power of the option select.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUihs9P1N24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhZWtd-6aYM
Seems like I was pretty much on point when I talked about JDCR utilizing option select movements. Not just him either, according to what he himself said, it's common among all top Korean players.
Just think about that situation with Law for a second. 1,1,2 is his primary jab punisher and leaves him at +6 on hit. That's a pretty significant frame advantage. When you take his overall short range into consideration though, a simple backdash into duck extremely diminishes his options. The only things that you really have to worry about is a low damage b2 into whatever, or him dashing in with something. If you guess right, you pretty much score a WS launcher with everything else. Characters with WS launchers that keep them ducking (Bob) are extra effective at this tactic.
These kinds of set ups require match up experience, but you can really simplify the game's defense when you keep them in mind. They're not even particularly hard to execute. You just need some solid reaction time. Never underestimate the power of the option select.
I would have played, but I'm sitting in the library :/
I kind of made it a habit to go in with f+3,1 after Steve's WS+1+2. It catches opponents who don't tech or do a quick get-up and deals some nice damage with Hwoarang (27 + 72). I have to get rid of that habit though...
Good games man. Was terrified you were gonna pick Baek the whole but you didnt.
Bad move
GrayFoxPL
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I will next time, because you are an expert.
I couldn't beat neither Mokujin nor Jinpachi, like Sasuke said before I realized what character that was, it was over.
Got beat up worse then I suspected, oh well. Next time.
I was picking different characters all the time to throw you off because i have one strategy and combo for them. Is it me or are you guys WAAY too patient. You never are in a hurry and react to the things i do instead of throwing things out there.If you noticed, when i play i never stop pressing buttons even when you are full screen away and was pressing db1+2 with marduk all the time.
GrayFoxPL
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I'm not used to such playstyle at all. Didn't know what was happening. Lol.
I have zero defense so everytime you started your offense i was screwed. So if i am also on the offense i can sorta have some kinda of defense.
Im not an expert by the way.
Yep, definitely. I only got as far as Berserker because I wait for unsafe moves or mistakes my opponent makes. I have to be WAY more aggressive and start putting some pressure on my opponent. And that's how Hwoarang is actually supposed to be played. Constant pressure, never letting go of my opponent.
I'm gonna have to change my style a bit in the future
Yep, definitely. I only got as far as Berserker because I wait for unsafe moves or mistakes my opponent makes. I have to be WAY more aggressive and start putting some pressure on my opponent. And that's how Hwoarang is actually supposed to be played. Constant pressure, never letting go of my opponent.
I'm gonna have to change my style a bit in the future
But if you go my route you will be a grandmaster which is worse. Defense is better than offense especially if the opponent is doing unsafe moves and all you need to do is punish them.
ThatCrazyGuy
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I have been playing TR alot lately. I love the character select screen music, haha.
I hate that you can't see who you are connecting with before you commit in ranked. I hope Namco changes this.
I hate that you can't see who you are connecting with before you commit in ranked. I hope Namco changes this.
GrayFoxPL
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I'm gonna have to change my style a bit in the future
Yeah, me 90% change is needed.
Yeah, me 90% change is needed.
In tekken 7 i am confused as to how to approach that game.
The new features seem like they are there to just bring new stuuf into the franchise as in where bound and tagging were big big changes that made the game very different indeed.
i swear i am not an expert just playing mokujin all this time gave me a broad vision of the game.
What i am looking forward to the most is the new characters and learning the characters that i know nothing about like bryan and jack.
GrayFoxPL
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Yeah checking out ins and outs of new characters is gonna be fun. Someone said Claudio with flame on and off is gonna be like Shun from VF or Chin from KOF. Personally I think the flame is more of a special form/stance like Omen Jin. I don't see multiple flame stocking like bottles for Shun.
The way lucky chloe plays seems weak to me. it seems like her movelist consists of fancy looking break dancing attacks that have short range and huge start up. She will probably be low tier but i want her to be the best so people are forced to use her and trolling begins on a tournament level. Shaheen i wanna play alot and Cladio seems like he will be interesting to see how he functions with the flame. Katarina i have no opinion on since she is there to introduce people to tekken and they might neglect to make her better than decent.
Tekken 6 is the game that made most of my friends interested in tekken but then came tag and they are all gone now even though it is the best.
I hope they return for Tekken 7 and it seems as though a couple of them like Shaheen.
Aren't they talking about Claudio?
I'm an idiot. I skipped a line and thought Shaheen would get the flames
GrayFoxPL
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Lucky Chloe is just Harada's Idolmaster fetish troll and a statement "I can shit on Tekken because I own it." I'll happily focus destroying this character in matches just so it loses any % of popularity.
Katarina is kinda "fake" noobish character. On ATP I think mr Naps said she's not gonna be played by mashing, because it's obviously not gonna do much work for her above very beginner level.
She has some interesting dashes into moves like flying knee. I think she's may be quite interesting later on.
Shaheen hopefully be badass but his style is most important. He can end up weak ass in tiers but if he owns in style I'm gonna use him.
Same with me. I picked up Ling because I thought her style was cool. Hwoarang and Steve don't need further explanation I think
Same with me. I picked up Ling because I thought her style was cool. Hwoarang and Steve don't need further explanation I think
I picked jinpachi because of his beard and i usually use boss characters in games.
Just quoting myself because I feel like this went ignored. People like Boutdown, Tera, and Famicom should especially take notice of that information. It's the kind of thing that will get you over that mid level player hump.
Sorry can't right now. In 2 or 3 hours maybe^^
I never said that
And yeah, I dropped 2 out of 3 combos after JFSR. Yesterday was so frustrating >_<
Out of all the 3 characters shown so far, Katarina was the only one with a legitimate martial art so I was checking out some more of the location test vids:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECNdqO5X5dk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hP3gcAojJs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhXqZAAbrYI
Her d/f+4 looks like it has insane range. Her stance seems to have the same purpose as Jinpachi's forward teleport. She even has a juggle ender and knockdown low from it just like Jinpachi's. Her u/f+4,4 is just like Alisa's u/f+4,4/ Jun's u/f+4,3, but she has another 4 hit extension after. I wonder if the third hit are interruptable... because that would be a bit too good if not. But meh overall... she didn't see anything that looks really draws me out so far. I hope there will be even more new movesets to try.
That's the most impressive thing about the Koreans is how they broke down these situations with almost every character in the game. But yeah, I get away with a bunch of damage on you boutdown with the exact same Steve pressure, now you now how to fight it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECNdqO5X5dk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hP3gcAojJs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhXqZAAbrYI
Her d/f+4 looks like it has insane range. Her stance seems to have the same purpose as Jinpachi's forward teleport. She even has a juggle ender and knockdown low from it just like Jinpachi's. Her u/f+4,4 is just like Alisa's u/f+4,4/ Jun's u/f+4,3, but she has another 4 hit extension after. I wonder if the third hit are interruptable... because that would be a bit too good if not. But meh overall... she didn't see anything that looks really draws me out so far. I hope there will be even more new movesets to try.
That's the most impressive thing about the Koreans is how they broke down these situations with almost every character in the game. But yeah, I get away with a bunch of damage on you boutdown with the exact same Steve pressure, now you now how to fight it
.Sorry can't right now. In 2 or 3 hours maybe^^
I never said that
And yeah, I dropped 2 out of 3 combos after JFSR. Yesterday was so frustrating >_<
Sorry i meant Grayfox.
yes we can play later just hit me up whenever you are ready.
My bad. What you posted up there looked a lot like "Sasuke" and that's what people call me here usually.
Just kidding. Yeah, we can play later
The entire u/f+4 string isn't optimal. It's the same thing as a Jack player in Tekken 6 just doing d/f+2, 2, f,f+1 B! d/f+1,2,1,2 as an ender. Requires absolutely no skill but very ineffecitient considering it's lower damage and lack of any okizeme after. The same thing applies to Katarina where you only have to do the first 2 hits of her launcher followed by a custom juggle filler after the bound animation to get more damage + better options after the juggle.
It's because I don't know what any of this means.That's the most impressive thing about the Koreans is how they broke down these situations with almost every character in the game. But yeah, I get away with a bunch of damage on you boutdown with the exact same Steve pressure, now you now how to fight it
Which part of it confuses you? The vid shows the options that Steve has after a FC d/f+1 on hit leaving him in PKB stance. JDCR was basically explaining the mentality for going about it to defend yourself after getting hit by that low.... which will happen A LOT since it's one his main moves to use.
GrayFoxPL
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Lol. XD
GrayFoxPL
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I thought he always spoke Korean, even if he didn't.
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