good question. why hasn't anyone proposed it yet?
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Terrorist attack in London [up: 6 people killed, ~50 injured, 3 attackers dead]
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good question. why hasn't anyone proposed it yet?
NoblesseOblige
Banned
I don't recall saying it was easy? Mind showing where I did?
Speak out how? Say what?
BaronLundi
Member
Goddammit this is awful. Thoughts to fellow Londoners from Paris.
I'm coming to London next month. Yeah, fuck you, I'm still going.
I'm coming to London next month. Yeah, fuck you, I'm still going.
Stead Fast
Banned
Worth stating that the reporter went at length to say that alarm and distress can hinder a bystanders' recollection. Until more is reported, primarily from the police, I'd focus less on that.
Care to share your magical non-racist solution or are you just going to be vague?
Shadow Puppetry
Member
Trump's first comment on this incident was to fucking retweet The Drudge Report.
His second was to use the incident to convince people to ban Muslims from the country.
The third was what you would think would be his first comment.
Not sending​ out prayers to the victims but insist the Muslim ban, I mean travel ban needs to happen? Disgusting.
Same here. Stay-safe London.I'm going to have to head off to sleep due to having work in the morning, but I'm dreading waking in the morning to read the summary of what's happened with the fatality count
Jezbollah
Member
We need more people like you.
ClosingADoor
Member
Yeah, in a panic with nowhere to go, jumping to get away from an attacker doesn't sound that crazy to me also. Hope the person survived it.
Authorities are too afraid to close down mosques were extremist views and hatred is being preached, and stop the money flow from the Middle-east that funds it. This is something that has been repeated over here at least for years by multiple organisations, and even by Muslims themselves. Don't know if the UK has the same problem, but there cracking down on those things would be a good idea.
MontyBrown
Banned
I'd bet the likelihood of your life being saved my paramedics after a stabbing is higher than not drowning/freezing to death, personally. Especially at night.
Majukun
Member
pretty sure everything you listed it's currently already been done.
It's not even clear if the one who was arrested is one of the 3 suspects.
Muffin1611
Banned
With "solution" you mean a temporary stop gap that isn't even guaranteed to do anything positive?
RoadHazard
Gold Member
We can't. It's gonna keep happening, and we have to live with it (or be killed by it). There's no fixing this. Some people just want to see us die.
Sumio Mondo
Member
Watching Sky News Live it looked like the cameraman was right next to a real danger zone around 30 mins ago now, with the police going crazy telling everyone to run and then seeing somebody getting arrested by Tactical Aid. Crazy.
Reports seem to be of three men getting out of the van. I haven't heard any official reports from the police of any arrests yet
Stead Fast
Banned
Spent some of the funniest months of my life in London, always cherish a visit.
Trousers cause more deaths in Europe than terrorists. This is horrible, but we shouldn't do things that destroy our why of life by giving into fear to a weak and pathetic enemy. It's what they want, and falling right into their trap.
TimeEffect
Member
How common are extremist mosques that we have to list it as a strategy?
Boy Wander
Member
You've got more chance of hell freezing over. The middle east hasn't been stable in decades. We're at a stage where fanciful, idealistic solutions aren't going to do shit because they're not possible to implement.
ive seen suggestions on twitter but no verified information. will have to wait for official word.
pigeon interrupted
Member
I hear Trump is on the case.
You know precisely what I mean. Not the time to be acting the smart-arse.
NoblesseOblige
Banned
And do you believe you've got a better 'solution' worth working towards? Please share if you do.
Magic Mushroom
Member
Yes. Guardian had a good column about it.
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ter-theresa-may-outrage-tough-response-terror
Keep pretending that is the solution. As if the middle east has anything to do with terrorist attacks in China and India by muslims, Indonesia or the attacks in Kenya and Nigeria etc. Additionally, killers like those in thr Boston bombings were White Russian/Dagestani who had no connection to the Middle East. It is just an easy scapegoat to say they do this because of their muslim brothers and sisters in Iraq or Afghanistan or Palestine.
So many are saying better integration and assimilation. You think the Sikhs in the UK or the black/caribbean/african population in the UK doesn't face the same discrimination or integration problems. Why are they not doing the attacks?
FireAndBlood
Member
I'm here in London vacation. It's crazy with all the sirens.
I was originally planning on doing Tower of London and Borough Market/Maltby St tomorrow morning. I already got my tickets. Not sure what now.
Poor London.
I was originally planning on doing Tower of London and Borough Market/Maltby St tomorrow morning. I already got my tickets. Not sure what now.
Poor London.
ClosingADoor
Member
Common enough that I read multiple times a year about it and even some mosques themselves have taken steps to remove clerics because they started preaching hatred. So we should support that and get rid of the ones spreading hatred.
Of course, next to that a ton of stuff will be underground and online. So strategies to tackle that are going to be harder, since we also want some kind of privacy still from the government.
NoblesseOblige
Banned
What's your solution?
JonnyDBrit
Member
Trump's tweet is kinda jumping the gun, when if following the established trend of this year, the perpetrator's could be UK born citizens who wouldn't even be affected under the model of his ban...
But, we do need to wait for details on the actual identities of the attackers, unlike some people.
But, we do need to wait for details on the actual identities of the attackers, unlike some people.
How about we stop overthrowing foreign governments and end our aid to Israel and Saudi Arabia.
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
If opponents had any sense, they would argue how stupidly ineffective and arbitrary the ban is. It was a 90-120 day moratorium that would have been passed by now while "extreme vetting" was put into place. It had 6 countries in it excluding places like Saudi Arabia.
Instead, people want to make it about principle and some "we're better than this" platitudes.
They argue that they would have never been born here had the ban been in place 30 years ago. But again, the thing he put out is temporary as hell and includes only 6 nations.
Could it have anything to do with US, UK, Russia, et al constantly invading them and overthrowing their governments over the past century? Or is this all just a weird coincidence?
They arrested a man live on sky news. Not sure if he's one of the 3 though
Jezbollah
Member
You will be fine for the Tower of London (its the other side of the Thames, roughly half a mile east). I suspect Borough Market area will be closed for the next few days.
frankie_baby
Member
Do the tower of London, it'll be just as safe as it ever is, wouldn't be surprised if Borough market is closed though
BlazingDarkness
Member
If those places are open tomorrow, you should go.
The security presence will be astronomical, it will be extremely safe.
eyewitness on bbc news definitely confirming 3 people got out the van and were stabbing people. he said he sent video to them.
obv still unconfirmed but that's got to be the clearest sign yet that that's real if he sent them something. they've not played it yet though.
obv still unconfirmed but that's got to be the clearest sign yet that that's real if he sent them something. they've not played it yet though.
I wouldn't want to chance it lol. I'd jump rather than getting stabbed by an attacker...
I suggest go. Ironically it's safer after these sorts of attacks because of the increased security.
SliChillax
Member
This is why the travel ban makes no sense. They already have people well established in the countries that they want to attack, no need for anyone to travel.