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[Herr Schwarz]

I wouldn't want to chance it lol. I'd jump rather than getting stabbed by an attacker...

I'd go jack bauer on the fucker

 

[Jumeira]

What freedoms are you personally willing to give up?

Or do you just want to remove freedoms from others?

Possibly greater powers to arrest people based on 'thought crimes' ie people with extremist views, people that sympathise with a terrorist cause, these should all be possible reasons to arrest/jail people. Sympathisers are well versed in what they can and cant say, they setup stalls irritating everyone (even muslims) with thier obvious intent, i dont think we should allow these people to engage, just imprison them & rehabilitate. The later maybe fairytale nonsense, but ofcourse we cant let these people free on our streets

 

[Simply Sami]

I bet another bunch of morons known to authorities.

Need to start taking action against these known to authorities people.

 

[mrklaw]

I'm here in London vacation. It's crazy with all the sirens.

I was originally planning on doing Tower of London and Borough Market/Maltby St tomorrow morning. I already got my tickets. Not sure what now.

Poor London.

Tower of London should be fine. It's further down the river and I expect there will be more security around that whole area. It's possible borough market will be closed tomorrow though

 

[Tovarisc]

AP: BREAKING: Prime Minister Theresa May says London incident being treated as a 'potential act of terrorism'

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[BaronLundi]

We need more people like you.

Living in Paris I got used to being scared. Also and more importantly that we need to carry on. I'll probably be more anxious about leaving my daugther at home really.

Anyway, no way am I missing going back to my old college for the first time in 18 years.

(Also, to, drink real bitter).

 

[MUnited83]

Yeah, in a panic with nowhere to go, jumping to get away from an attacker doesn't sound that crazy to me also. Hope the person survived it.


Authorities are too afraid to close down mosques were extremist views and hatred is being preached, and stop the money flow from the Middle-east that funds it. This is something that has been repeated over here at least for years by multiple organisations, and even by Muslims themselves. Don't know if the UK has the same problem, but there cracking down on those things would be a good idea.

Are you sure that extremist mosques are actually that common and that authorities being "afraid" of closing them is a actual thing.
I agree with stopping the money flow from the Middle-east that funds it but since it mostly comes from Saudi Arabia good luck with that, money speaks very loud so the West will just continue business as usual with SA.

 

[Joel Was Right]

People being run over and stabbed, and yet people here are posting about how a curse word hasn't been edited out of a video?

 

[GHG]

I'd bet the likelihood of your life being saved my paramedics after a stabbing is higher than not drowning/freezing to death, personally. Especially at night.

I'd take my chances. I'd rather not give these fuckers the satisfaction of ploughing a knife through me to kill me.

 

[Ashes]

Keep pretending that is the solution. As if the middle east has anything to do with terrorist attacks in China and India by muslims, Indonesia or the attacks in Kenya and Nigeria etc. Additionally, killers like those in thr Boston bombings were White Russian/Dagestani who had no connection to the Middle East. It is just an easy scapegoat to say they do this because of their muslim brothers and sisters in Iraq or Afghanistan or Palestine.

So many are saying better integration and assimilation. You think the Sikhs in the UK or the black/caribbean/african population in the UK doesn't face the same discrimination or integration problems. Why are they not doing the attacks?

We should ban the American Constitution then. Then we won't get so many gun related massacres in the US.
Heck Portland Terrorist was shouting about the first Amendment wasn't he?

 

[Roufianos]

Care to share your magical non-racist solution or are you just going to be vague?

With "solution" you mean a temporary stop gap that isn't even guaranteed to do anything positive?

I don't have a solution. It's not my job. Who gives a damn what I think. It's May's job, what's she going to do though? Say "We will not be beaten" and not do shit.

We are being beaten though, people will keep dying and it's probably going to get worse.

 

[NihonTiger90]

This is why the travel ban makes no sense. They already have people well established in the countries that they want to attack, no need for anyone to travel.

Or people living overseas radicalized via the Internet, which also requires no need to travel.

 

[Bubba_Sparks]

We can't. It's gonna keep happening, and we have to live with it (or be killed by it). There's no fixing this. Some people just want to see us die.

What a stupid post lol! Is this sarcasm?

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

I don't have a solution. It's not my job. It's May's job, what's she going to do though? Say "We will not be beaten" and not do shit.

We are being beaten though, people will keep dying and it's probably going to get worse.

Sounds like it's time to consider a vote for Nigel Farage, a man of action.

 

[MonorailCat]

How about we stop overthrowing foreign governments and end our aid to Israel and Saudi Arabia.

It's a catch 22. Look at libya and syria. If you dont intervene you condone human right violations and torture and killings .. if you intervene you destroy infrastructure, kill innocents and create a vacuum that spawns terror cells.

Both outcomes are shit.

 

[SplitYourInfinities]

My friend went to Vauxhall tonight and I couldn't contact her. She just sent me a message and she is ok, got me worried for while...

 

[Saiyu]

Keep pretending that is the solution. As if the middle east has anything to do with terrorist attacks in China and India by muslims, Indonesia or the attacks in Kenya and Nigeria etc. Additionally, killers like those in thr Boston bombings were White Russian/Dagestani who had no connection to the Middle East. It is just an easy scapegoat to say they do this because of their muslim brothers and sisters in Iraq or Afghanistan or Palestine.

So many are saying better integration and assimilation. You think the Sikhs in the UK or the black/caribbean/african population in the UK doesn't face the same discrimination or integration problems. Why are they not doing the attacks?

There's a good article by a Muslim about how the Muslim community is not doing enough to weed out terrorism and is constantly playing the victim card:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/myths-by-muslims-hit-anti-terror-campaign-0lqf9jl5s

It's also up on the Daily Mail. Well worth the read.

 

[Wowfunhappy]

People being run over and stabbed, and yet people here are posting about how a curse word hasn't been edited out of a video?

You're right, we should also suspend the entire gaming section. It's irresponsible to be talking about video games when people are being run over and stabbed.

 

[Effect]

Thoughts are with the victims and their families.

Not leaking information to the press of the following police/security services investigation would be a good start.

This. Wouldn't be surprised if nothing is being shared after what happen last time.

 

[janoDX]

There isn't really a solution.

There is, but it would be too extreme and it would take out human rights hard.

 

[D4Danger]

It's a catch 22. Look at liberia and syria. If you dont intervene you condone human right violations and torture and killings .. if you intervene you destroy infrastructure, kill innocents and create a vacuum that spawns terror cells.

Both outcomes are shit.

or maybe try having a plan about what to do after you stop bombing them so it doesn't happen

 

[Herr Schwarz]

What a stupid post lol! Is this sarcasm?

It's not stupid, we're at War on Terror. This is part of the war. We can't just shut down our society and democratic and lawful principals in order to counter crazy fucks.

Because in the end, what would we be fighting to protect?

 

[Media]

You know precisely what I mean. Not the time to be acting the smart-arse.

You said arrest those returning from fighting in middle East conflicts no matter what side they were on. That's every vet currently. Or did you mean arrest any Muslims returning from fighting? I don't get how that'd help, honestly.

 

[Jezbollah]

AP: BREAKING: Prime Minister Theresa May says London incident being treated as a 'potential act of terrorism'

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I suspect this is a part of protocol - treating it as potential terrorism unlocks a number of legal and resource powers if I remember correctly, especially regarding the amount of time a person can be arrested before being charged.

 

[mrklaw]

This footage from the BBC is right on the south end of the bridge. From the description from the eyewitness, the van sounds like it stopped just by the steps down to Southwark cathedral so just to the right of what is shown on that clip. Surprising to see people walking fairly normally around there

 

[Kill Your Masters]

I hear Trump is on the case.

He's about to touch bigger and brighter orbs with he Arabs I am sure that will help tremendously.

Everybody talks, everybody thinks something must be done, then a few days after an attack every western politician gooes and sucks Saudi balls.

Stop being best friends and allies with the biggest exporter of Wahhabism, it simply doesn't compute. Of course you can't stabilise the ME when your biggest allies in the ME are the Saudis.

 

[Tovarisc]

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[MontyBrown]

It's a catch 22. Look at liberia and syria. If you dont intervene you condone human right violations and torture and killings .. if you intervene you destroy infrastructure, kill innocents and create a vacuum that spawns terror cells.

Both outcomes are shit.

I'm not saying we shouldn't intervene - because I don't know my opinion - but why the Middle East and not North Korea, parts of Africa, countries in South America, etc...

 

[Ashes]

Tower of London should be fine. It's further down the river and I expect there will be more security around that whole area. It's possible borough market will be closed tomorrow though

Nah. It's all blocked. Tower Bridge is literally opposite London Bridge.

Btw, I was on the road around then, and we had signs saying to avoid London Bridge with maybe 15 minutes.. probably less..

Go Smart Traffic signs.

 

[Charles Brandon]

There is, but it would be too extreme and it would take out human rights hard.

No, that would not be a solution. It would be counter-productive.

 

[Budi]

You people bringing up Trump are equally disrespectful to the victims and their friends/family. He doesn't need any spotlight regarding to this, this thread isn't about him. Nobody gives a shit about what he tweets. Find another thread to bash that idiot, thank you.

 

[ZeoVGM]

Dont think that will change much, these people are hidden from mainstream muslims. Something needs to be done, im at the point now where we really need to think about certain freedoms.

What freedoms are you personally willing to give up?

Or do you just want to remove freedoms from others?

Possibly greater powers to arrest people based on 'thought crimes' ie people with extremist views, people that sympathise with a terrorist cause, these should all be possible reasons to arrest/jail people. Sympathisers are well versed in what they can and cant say, they setup stalls irritating everyone (even muslims) with thier obvious intent, i dont think we should allow these people to engage, just imprison them & rehabilitate. The later maybe fairytale nonsense, but ofcourse we cant let these people free on our streets

So the answer to Miles' question was "remove freedom from others."

Got it.

 

[Mahonay]

Some trolling to slightly lighten the mood.

https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/871144729760722944

Ethered.

Hope the attack has been stopped and minimized. Shit is out of hand.

 

[Moosichu]

I don't have a solution. It's not my job. Who gives a damn what I think. It's May's job, what's she going to do though? Say "We will not be beaten" and not do shit.

We are being beaten though, people will keep dying and it's probably going to get worse.

These problems aren't intractable. Doing nothing sometimes is the best response, the terrorists want us to lash out, going about our normal lives is the fighting back.

 

[mrklaw]

Nah. It's all blocked. Tower Bridge is literally opposite London Bridge.

Btw, I was on the road around then, and we had signs saying to avoid London Bridge with maybe 15 minutes.. probably less..

Go Smart Traffic signs.

Maybe now with the cordons but tomorrow I'm sure it'll be fine

 

[Stead Fast]

My friend went to Vauxhall tonight and I couldn't contact her. She just sent me a message and she is ok, got me worried for while...

Oh God! Don't let the panic get the better of you, just keep trying.

 

[skypunch]

You people bringing up Trump are equally disrespectful to the victims and their friends/family. He doesn't need any spotlight regarding to this, this thread isn't about him. Nobody gives a shit what he tweets. Find another thread to bash that idiot, thank you.

This. Sick of hearing about Trump.

 

[ProfessorMoran]

Yep, I'm sure camera footage is going stop a vehicle randomly accelerating and swerving off-road... You can't predict this form of attack.

If someone chooses to cause an accident on the road, they can anywhere, and you're pretty naive if you think otherwise.

You monitor radicalized individuals, keep tabs on them, follow them around, question them, they try anything, you take them out on the spot.

This isn't just some random person deciding to run over people because of road rage, this is a terrorist that fits a specific profile, and it takes time to muster the balls to run people down, we need to get these people off the streets before they try anything.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

Some trolling to slightly lighten the mood.

https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/871144729760722944

After the Philippines, who can blame them? Pretty sad to see the Presidency turn into a joke like this though.

 

[JonnyDBrit]

I suspect this is a part of protocol - treating it as potential terrorism unlocks a number of legal and resource powers if I remember correctly, especially regarding the amount of time a person can be arrested before being charged.

Pretty much is, though bolstered by the style of the attack in question. Better to just treat it as possible terrorism and use every measure available while the perpetrators are still at large, and then scale back to figuring out precise motivations and intent.

 

[RoadHazard]

What a stupid post lol! Is this sarcasm?

?

No, it's not sarcasm. What, do you think it will NOT keep happening? Or are you one of the people who think that hugging each other and repeating the mantra "we will not let this beat us" will fix it? Well, it won't.

 

[Bits N Pieces]

This isn't going away in the short term if anything incidents like these will only become more prevalent going forward.

I just don't know how you prevent a group of people committing random barbaric attacks on innocent bystanders with kitchen knife's?

 

[Netherscourge]

I wonder if this attack was the one that was warned about right after the Ariana Grande concert attack? Maybe the terrorists delayed it because of that terror threat warning?

 

[Shadow Puppetry]

Some trolling to slightly lighten the mood.

https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/871144729760722944

No chill but they're right.

 

[D4Danger]

Some trolling to slightly lighten the mood.

https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/871144729760722944

why don't they just report the fucking news like a real news network instead of using a terrorist attack to score some points on twitter.

 

[Dirtyshubb]

You monitor radicalized individuals, keep tabs on them, follow them around, question them, they try anything, you take them out on the spot.

This isn't just some random person deciding to run over people because of road rage, this is a terrorist that fits a specific profile, and it takes time to muster the balls to run people down, we need to get these people off the streets before they try anything.

But that doesn't stop random attacks like this, unless you want someone following them 24/7.

 

[JP_]

Possibly greater powers to arrest people based on 'thought crimes' ie people with extremist views, people that sympathise with a terrorist cause, these should all be possible reasons to arrest/jail people. Sympathisers are well versed in what they can and cant say, they setup stalls irritating everyone (even muslims) with thier obvious intent, i dont think we should allow these people to engage, just imprison them & rehabilitate. The later maybe fairytale nonsense, but ofcourse we cant let these people free on our streets

Persecuting a group of people usually doesn't get a great response from them -- prison is rarely effective at rehabilitating people. You might be interested in this though: http://www.npr.org/sections/health-...town-helped-young-muslims-turn-away-from-isis

Starting in 2012, 34 people went from Aarhus to Syria. As far as the police know, six were killed and 10 are still over there. Of the 18 who came back home, all showed up in Aarslev and Link's office, as did hundreds of other potential radicals in Aarhus — about 330 in total.

But the program is admired for another accomplishment: Since the initial exodus of young people, very few have left from Aarhus for Syria, even when traffic from the rest of Europe was spiking. Last year, in 2015, it was just one person.

A Police department in Denmark has seen nice gains by actually engaging with muslims and their community centers, clerics, etc.

 

[Amagon]

I haven't checked in the past few hours and this happens. Terrible stuff, hope these fuckers are caught alive.

 

[BriGuy]

So sick of these cowardly attacks. If you're so willing to die or kill for a cause, join a fucking army and fight your enemy combatants on the field of battle. Leave innocent civilians out of it.

 

[janoDX]

No, that would not be a solution. It would be counter-productive.

I say that is a solution, but not a good one and it shouldn't be done unless it's the last resource.