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Tesla Model 3 will be revealed on March 31st

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twinturbo2

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Tesla already has significant prestige - they have a history of building innovative high-performance electric vehicles. GM doesn't - their EV history consists of the Volt. So it's hardly surprising that Model 3 is more highly anticipated than the Bolt.

There's also infrastructure to consider... does GM have the equivalent of Tesla's supercharger network for example? Not much point in a 200 mile EV if you can't get anywhere once the range is reached.
GM also had the EV1. They did it long before Tesla was even a thing.

The Bolt is a 30K after taxbenefits hatchback, the Model 3 is a 30K before taxbenefits sedan. They're like, totally different cars that have NOTHING in common, apart from the price-range and being an EV.
The Model 3 starts at $35K before tax breaks, and there's no way in hell yours getting one at that price with the inevetable options.

Jesus. Some people.
 
Line-up at the Tesla dealer in Montreal went around the block, all the way in front of the Mercedes dealer lol

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subrock

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70 in line at Tesla Vancouver. I thought I would be relatively early, but I guess this is the city with some of the highest interest on the continent
 

F1Fan

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I really don't get the hype with Tesla. Why are people waiting in-line for a car that no-one knows anything about. For all we know it could be a disappointment with only 200 mile range???

It's crazy the amount of hype this company is generating, when considering they are making a similar product that is the same as competition but with range problems. I could understand if hey are the first electric car that beats the all the competition and is a market leader but that simply is not the case.

Hype out of nowhere. I am amazed.
 

KingWool

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I really don't get the hype with Tesla. Why are people waiting in-line for a car that no-one knows anything about. For all we know it could be a disappointment with only 200 mile range???

It's crazy the amount of hype this company is generating, when considering they are making a similar product that is the same as competition but with range problems. I could understand if hey are the first electric car that beats the all the competition and is a market leader but that simply is not the case.

Hype out of nowhere. I am amazed.

You can always get your money back. For me, Tesla has earned this. Each car of theirs has been absolutely phenomenal. They deserve all the hype and fanfare.
 
Bit of a bummer with that tax refund, if you put in an order now expecting to get the full value and then it turns out you got phased out.

From what I've read, it sounds like once the 200k car is sold, the countdown starts, in which the tax credit gets phased out in a year from that point. I believe the first few months after, I think you still get the full $7500, but it starts to dip in the months after that until the year is over.
 

F1Fan

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You can always get your money back. For me, Tesla has earned this. Each car of theirs has been absolutely phenomenal. They deserve all the hype and fanfare.

As are most cars that cost in the region of $70k+.

You literally cannot buy a bad car from most leading manufacturers for that kind of money. Not to mention numerous Teslas have had severe reliability problems after 50k of mileage.
 
As are most cars that cost in the region of $70k+.

You literally cannot buy a bad car from most leading manufacturers for that kind of money. Not to mention numerous Teslas have had severe reliability problems after 50k of mileage.

My brand new BMW 335XI E90 (2008 model) was 82K CAD after taxes. I'm so, so, SO happy I sold it. My only regret is having to keep it for so long.

I could have purchased another new car all together (civic class) after the amount of repairs I had to put into that car. So, no, you actually and literally can by a bad car from leading manufacturers.
 

Cake Boss

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I really don't get the hype with Tesla. Why are people waiting in-line for a car that no-one knows anything about. For all we know it could be a disappointment with only 200 mile range???

It's crazy the amount of hype this company is generating, when considering they are making a similar product that is the same as competition but with range problems. I could understand if hey are the first electric car that beats the all the competition and is a market leader but that simply is not the case.

Hype out of nowhere. I am amazed.

Its not out of no where, people have drove and tested these cars, and they are very well made cars. That's it.
 

F1Fan

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My brand new BMW 335XI E90 (2008 model) was 82K CAD after taxes. I'm so, so, SO happy I sold it. My only regret is having to keep it for so long.

I could have purchased another new car all together (civic class) after the amount of repairs I had to put into that car. So, no, you actually and literally can by a bad car from leading manufacturers.

Ofcourse cars break and have problems. I can link you the same thing about Tesla and their drive/power problems that hit cars after 50-60k of mileage.

I just don't see what Tesla offers something so ground breaking that deserves this hype?

At the end of the day it is still a car with 4 wheels. As a car is cannot yet even compete with the petrol/diesel in terms of range, one of the most important if not the most important feature. Yet the hype makes it sounds like its the best car ever.
 

F1Fan

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Its not out of no where, people have drove and tested these cars, and they are very well made cars. That's it.

Yeah I understand your point. But many other cars are well made and drive well. Nowhere near as much hype for these cars as is for Tesla.

A car that is well made, safe and reliable is not something we haven't seen yet. This is nothing new.
 
I just don't see what Tesla offers something so ground breaking that deserves this hype?

Very cool looking car with a lot of technology behind both it's entertainment centre and electric engine. Also is fast, really fast.

There, I just answered your question.
 

strata8

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I just don't see what Tesla offers something so ground breaking that deserves this hype?

At the end of the day it is still a car with 4 wheels. As a car is cannot yet even compete with the petrol/diesel in terms of range, one of the most important if not the most important feature. Yet the hype makes it sounds like its the best car ever.

It's electric.
 

F1Fan

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Very cool looking car with a lot of technology behind both it's entertainment centre and electric engine. Also is fast, really fast.

There, I just answered your question.

Yeah that must be it then.

I have never before seen a cool looking car, that is fast and has technology in it.

A worlds first, we have here....
 

F1Fan

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It's electric.

Yes it's electric, but due to that has some major compromises because of that.

I could understand if it was the first electric car that can compete with range and price with normal cars. But this is simply not yet viable and won't be for a while.
 
Yes it's electric, but due to that has some major compromises because of that.

I could understand if it was the first electric car that can compete with range and price with normal cars. But this is simply not yet viable and won't be for a while.

Why is it not viable?
 

Cake Boss

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Yeah that must be it then.

I have never before seen a cool looking car, that is fast and has technology in it.

A worlds first, we have here....

People here are giving you reasons why they like the cars, yet you dismiss their reasons. Your just fishing for an argument.
 

Flo_Evans

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Yes it's electric, but due to that has some major compromises because of that.

I could understand if it was the first electric car that can compete with range and price with normal cars. But this is simply not yet viable and won't be for a while.

$35k ~ 200miles is pretty damn close. I drive 20 miles a day.
 

Cake Boss

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Yes it's electric, but due to that has some major compromises because of that.

I could understand if it was the first electric car that can compete with range and price with normal cars. But this is simply not yet viable and won't be for a while.

The hell you talking about, it has been viable for the people that bought their cars and if it wasn't a viable option, there wouldn't be a line up for their cars right now.
 
Yeah that must be it then.

I have never before seen a cool looking car, that is fast and has technology in it.

A worlds first, we have here....

Hehe, you're just being a resistance now. It's OK if you don't get it BTW, not every car is meant for everyone.
 

F1Fan

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The hell you talking about, it has been viable for the people that bought their cars and if it wasn't a viable option, there wouldn't be a line up for their cars right now.

Its not yet viable in terms of matching todays cars. And it's not viable for 99% of people on this planet, as sales have shown.
 

Draper

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I wonder if it's worth driving out to a Tesla location after work around 5 and reserve one then, or if I should just wait for online orders to go up.
 

strata8

Member
Yes it's electric, but due to that has some major compromises because of that.

I could understand if it was the first electric car that can compete with range and price with normal cars. But this is simply not yet viable and won't be for a while.

Gas cars also have a lot of major compromises in comparison to electric cars.

Obviously there are a lot of people out there who have looked at regular cars and electric cars, and decided they prefer the latter after weighing the advantages and disadvantages of both. Different people value different things, that shouldn't be hard to believe really.
 

F1Fan

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it's okay F1Fan, there are cars I don't like too

Yes of course. I don't mind Tesla, I think they are great cars, considering their are electric but as a cars, I simply don't see what makes them so much better that people are lining up for a car that has not yet been announced. That does not seem normal to me lol.
 

F1Fan

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My commute from my new place is 46 miles round trip. I would only need to charge the Model 3 once a week.

Well then tesla would be a good fit for you then. But for 99% of the population the range of electric cars is simply not good enough yet, me included.

If I ever want to go out for a day trip on the weekend, with electric car this is not possible.

Once their fix the range and recharge time, then for me they will be excellent cars. Too many limitations for me at this moment.
 

Nocebo

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Its not yet viable in terms of matching todays cars. And it's not viable for 99% of people on this planet, as sales have shown.
What is this pathetic hyperbole? 99% of people on this planet? First of all around 26% of people on the planet are under 15. Please go away. As sales of what have shown? Luxury EVs and EVs with extremely low range?
 

Stinkles

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Its not yet viable in terms of matching todays cars. And it's not viable for 99% of people on this planet, as sales have shown.


The current Model S is more expensive than a BMW 5, has a similar range, is much, much faster, is quieter, has a smoother ride, seats seven and sells more units in the US. It's not only viable it's a multi award winning success.
 

Cake Boss

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Its not yet viable in terms of matching todays cars. And it's not viable for 99% of people on this planet, as sales have shown.

That's because 99% of people on this planet don't have $70-80k to spend on a car. That is why people are getting excited about this one, finally in the mass consumer price range.
 
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