Slumdog is basically Lord of the Rings in Bollywood, but without the magic, hobbits, or rings.cashman said:anybody notice the opening scene of the childhood in slumdog, is almost a complete rip off of city of god?
Dresden said:Slumdog is basically Lord of the Rings in Bollywood, but without the magic, hobbits, or rings.
yeah, i thought this was a brilliant and delightfully subversive ending- another great twist on action movie practices. the hero is back in action and a badass riff starts playing, a cue for the audience to go "hell yeah!" and feel totally awesome. but the hero has just abandoned his family and all the responsibilites of 'Real Life'. the camera pans out and he's walking completely alone and isolated.Snowman Prophet of Doom said:-And, in the end, our hero comes back for a 'sequel', likely to continue defying the laws of probability that we have been shown govern everybody else.
Squall dies.Timber said:yeah, i thought this was a brilliant and delightfully subversive ending- another great twist on action movie practices. the hero is back in action and a badass riff starts playing, a cue for the audience to go "hell yeah!" and feel totally awesome. but the hero has just abandoned his family and all the responsibilites of 'Real Life'. the camera pans out and he's walking completely alone and isolated.
EviLore said:Wait wait, The Blind Side is that football movie with Sandra Bullock? Wow. Hell, put Crank 2 in there then.
Ong Bak 2.wenis said:They goddamn should...wheres the category for best ass kicking of the year.
Statham deserves it.
Dresden said:Slumdog is basically Lord of the Rings in Bollywood, but without the magic, hobbits, or rings.
charsace said:The Hangover should have been nominated for best picture too. If Avatar and The Blind Side are nominated then why not The Hangover?
it won't be based on the number of people that saw and loved it. It will be based on who directed it and the snowball of hype it received.
WrikaWrek said:District 9 was 10 times more predictable than Avatar? A movie that children can pinpoint plot points 30 minutes before they happen? :lol
District 9 is a much more unexpected movie than Avatar. And Star Trek should be in there yes, in Avatars place.
(Blind Side of course yes)
So much is wrong with this statement.
quite a few things about these types of comments are baffling to meJGS said:However, if it does win, it won't be based on the number of people that saw and loved it. It will be based on who directed it and the snowball of hype it received.
Timber said:quite a few things about these types of comments are baffling to me
1. where and how did you gather the expertise to present such an opinion as fact?
2. where and how did you gather the knowledge that people didn't see and enjoy the hurt locker?
if the implication was that it wasn't as widely seen as avatar, then that's true, but that doesn't have much bearing on a restricted voting process.
if the implication was that you've observed many negative opinions regarding the hurt locker, then it must be said that the exact same goes for its sole competitor, avatar.
3. does the fact that you're saying that bigelow will win because she's a woman doesn't strike you as a bit sexist?
but the people who are eligible to vote will see it because they have to vote.JGS said:Where did I say they didn't enjoy the Hurt Locker? I enjoyed Hurt Locker immensely. It's just a simply fact that very few saw it unless it was for free.
Box office does not win awards, but there is usually sufficient revenue to suggest a proper amount have seen it. That is not the case with Hurt Locker.
i don't pretend that the oscar voting process is infallible and that politics are never played. but i do take issue with the claim that it's absolutely out of the question that an excellent movie like the hurt locker can win by virtue of its quality. "& it being good" is something that you didn't mention in your initial statement.Please tell me you're not naive enough to think that votes are fair at the Oscars. It's not her fault either and it's not just because she's a woman. If there were more women directors, there would be just as good as the guys with Bigelow on top imo.
Any particular group likes setting precedent. That's all I'm saying. Some accused Crash of winning for the same reasons. Did that make it a racist vote? Titanic was accused of winning for box office. Shakespeare In Love won for a marketing campaign. Why would it be odd for Hurt Locker to win because of a woman director & it being good? It's certainly a better pic than Prince of Tides ever was.
don't flatter yourselfI had no idea that my comments would hit some of you so hard.
Timber said:but the people who are eligible to vote will see it because they have to vote.
Timber said:i don't pretend that the oscar voting process is infallible and that politics are never played. but i do take issue with the claim that it's absolutely out of the question that an excellent movie like the hurt locker can win by virtue of its quality. "& it being good" is something that you didn't mention in your initial statement.
me said:I have a hard time believing Hurt Locker will win, but it's won so many things so far. However, if it does win, it won't be based on the number of people that saw and loved it. It will be based on who directed it and the snowball of hype it received.
Timber said:don't flatter yourself
Timber said:but the people who are eligible to vote will see it because they have to vote.
I thought I read that Ernest Borgnine et al refused to see OR vote for Brokeback Mountain. I'm assuming he's a member of the Academy? CAN you refuse to see a movie up for an Oscar if youre a voting member of the Academy??
Except in five categories, the Academy uses the honor system. The official position is that members should see all the nominees before voting in any category, but there is no enforcement: its up to members to see the movies, either in theaters, at official Academy screenings or at home on screener DVDs. If a member opts not to see something, the Academy doesnt know and cant really do anything about it.
Ernest Borgnine and Tony Curtis, both of whom are Academy members, did indeed say that they had no intention of seeing Brokeback when it was nominated for Best Picture in 2006. More recently, at a party for Inglourious Basterds, longtime member Mickey Rooney said that he no longer watches any new movies, but his wife said he would nonetheless cast a ballot.
The only exceptions are in the Documentary Feature, Foreign-Language Film and three shorts categories, where voters obtain a ballot only after seeing all the nominees, usually at special Academy screenings.
The Academy has often claimed that members who cant see all the nominees in a category will abstain from voting in that category. But I asked PricewaterhouseCoopers Rick Rosas about this once, and he said that almost all the members vote in every category.
I have seen every nominee in every category for the past several years, and I can testify that its not an easy thing to do. But for a member to refuse to see a Best Picture nominee strikes me as an irresponsible dereliction of duty.
when you said "However, if it does win [...] It will be based on who directed it and the snowball of hype it received." meaning that if it wins, it's not because it's a good movie. there really are no two ways to interpret this. i replied to your post because i have seen many like it lately, on gaf and elsewhere, that completely dismiss the idea that the hurt locker might win because it's good. the whole 'female director' angle is wretched beyond belief. the hurt locker could have been any other movie released in any other year directed by any other woman and the exact same things would have been said about it. dozens of male directors have won the oscar and it takes just one female to stand a fighting chance and in come the "it's because she's a woman" comments. it's offensive drivel. i'm not flattering myself by replying to your post; it's what people do on internet forums. oh no deary me, anything but an incorrect response!JGS said:Now where did I say it was out of the question again?
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MIMIC said:I....don't get it. Is this poster saying the movie was bad?
If there is a God Tarantino will win Best Director, Best Original Screenplay, and Inglorious Basterds will win Best Picture.Dead said:If there is a god, Cameron will win Best Director over Bigelow.
Most definitely. I'm sure many links will be posted leading up to it.NetMapel said:So will there be streaming of the Oscars (red carpet included) available online ?
Thank god there's no god.CassSept said:If there is a God Tarantino will win Best Director, Best Original Screenplay, and Inglorious Basterds will win Best Picture.
CassSept said:If there is a God Tarantino will win Best Director, Best Original Screenplay, and Inglorious Basterds will win Best Picture.
Timber said:when you said "However, if it does win [...] It will be based on who directed it and the snowball of hype it received." meaning that if it wins, it's not because it's a good movie. there really are no two ways to interpret this. i replied to your post because i have seen many like it lately, on gaf and elsewhere, that completely dismiss the idea that the hurt locker might win because it's good. the whole 'female director' angle is wretched beyond belief. the hurt locker could have been any other movie released in any other year directed by any other woman and the exact same things would have been said about it. dozens of male directors have won the oscar and it takes just one female to stand a fighting chance and in come the "it's because she's a woman" comments. it's offensive drivel. i'm not flattering myself by replying to your post; it's what people do on internet forums. oh no deary me, anything but an incorrect response!
me said:I have a hard time believing Up will win, although so many people love it. However, if it does win, it won't be based on the number of people that saw it and loved it. It will be based on it being the first animated movie to win.
i'd argue that another possible reason for this is lack of a valid alternative. i haven't seen avatar and 3 of the other nominees, but it seems to me that it wasn't exactly a strong batch of contenders this year. that should pull the odds in the hurt locker's favour quite a bit.JGS said:IMO, the ONLY way to overcome this was buzz, hype, and a sense of being a precedent setter.
well, i'm not saying the oscars are devoid of politics. i just have problems with the notion that they're the only factors at play when it comes to the hurt locker's possible victory. but if that isn't what you're saying then i withdraw my argument.EDIT- I forgot, it is not wretched at all for a woman to win an Academy Award when so many people love the movie in question. Hurt Locker has already won the critical approval.
The argument really boils down to whether the Oscars are political or not. I say yes, you may say otherwise apparently.
WrikaWrek said:Well besides the fact that Saving Private Ryan also didn't win best picture (lol), no i don't think the Hurt Locker is as good as Private. But isn't that stupid? I mean, should any nominee then, be only nominated if they are as good as movies of other years? And not because they are better than movies of its own year?
JGS said:EDITED THE WHOLE THING:lol
What was unexpected about it? Believe me, there's no need to spoiler it.
Notice I didn't say I think Avatar should win, just that it was my favorite. I'm sorry/happy if that puts me in a children's category. Both were predictable, but Avatar did it better.
Also, I liked Hurt Locker (***), but it's box office indicates no one saw it. This doesn't have anything to do withthe idea that top Box Office wins awards since we all know that not true, but the box office for Hurt Locker was anemic. This would mean that most of the ones voting would have to go to a screener or see it on DVD.
Past interviews with voters seems to indicate that they don't tend to make up their mind at those times. They either vote for what they thought was best or what they want to win. Many voters want hurt Locker to win because it will be historic. Cameron's already got his Oscar.
Zeliard said:I'm not saying that Hurt Locker can't be a nominee because it isn't as good. I'm saying it's getting a great deal of praise despite striking me as a good movie, but pretty unremarkable.
As a relatively recent American war-themed movie, SPR is infinitely superior. The reason I brought that film up is because it was the last prominent Best Picture war movie nominee. We don't get very many of those. The only one we got in between SPR/Thin Red Line in 1998 and Hurt Locker in 2010 was Letters from Iwo Jima, and that was from the POV of the Japanese rather than the Americans. Prior to all that, it a couple of 1980s Oliver Stone movies - Platoon and Born on the Fourth of July, the latter of which was more of a character study than a war movie.
Platoon, Saving Private Ryan and Thin Red Line are all vastly superior to The Hurt Locker.
Xater said:I just want to say that that I'll be really upset if Avatar wins anything besides the technical awards. I'm rooting for Inglorious Basterds. Can't say much about the Hurt Locker. I have baught the Blu-ray but have yet to watch the film.
BowieZ said:I just hate how we KNOW 95% of the winners already. Best Picture may be up in the air (EDIT: Oh shi-- no pun intended), although I'm not particularly crazy about either Avatar or The Hurt Locker.
I just wish, for example, Inglourious Basterds could win Best Picture... but that's strictly IMPOSSIBLE. Seriously, it's IMPOSSIBLE. Which sucks.
I just wish there were a way in which every single nominee could conceivably win, making every category a surprise. I guess you'd just have to live under a rock for 6 months to experience that, though.
BowieZ said:I just wish, for example, Inglourious Basterds could win Best Picture... but that's strictly IMPOSSIBLE. Seriously, it's IMPOSSIBLE. Which sucks.
I just wish there were a way in which every single nominee could conceivably win, making every category a surprise. I guess you'd just have to live under a rock for 6 months to experience that, though.
Well, either I really do think it is literally impossible, or thinking it is a way to ensure my hopes are not dashed.WrikaWrek said:I don't think it's impossible for IB to win at all.
Xater said:I just want to say that that I'll be really upset if Avatar wins anything besides the technical awards.
Puddles said:More and more I find myself wanting Avatar to win JUST to piss off you and your kind.
Xater said:For yur information, when I had to review Avatar I was very positive about it. I just don't think it is anywhere near best movie of the year quality. I would have replaced it with Moon for example.
Puddles said:If there was a "Goodfellas," a "Chinatown," or hell, even a "The Departed" this year, I'd agree with you. But nothing released this year really stood out to me as an all-time classic. We got a mid-tier Coen Bros. film, a Reitman film that isn't as good as Thank You For Smoking, a pretty good Iraq war movie, a mid-tier Pixar film, the most emotionally exploitative film ever about an overweight black chick, and I guess a genuinely great film in Inglorious Basterds.
So yeah, it should really be IB or Avatar. Or maybe The Hurt Locker.
Because it's really not that great.striKeVillain! said:So how was Moon not nominated? I can't understand that.