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The 2nd Democratic National Primary Debate
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He is if it is relative to the republican debates.
Veritigo_X
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Quite the ballsy claim there.
Anything worth doing is worth doing right.
exmachina64
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What does the revolution look like?
What defines the revolution?
Is it a violent revolution? If yes, the government will break it up and arrest people for treason.
Is it a revolution that only involves organizing and quietly protesting? How is it different from Occupy Wall Street?
The problem with the revolution Bernie describes is that it requires millions of average people across America to quietly assemble and organize themselves over social media and it doesn't have any defined goals.
What happens if a lot of the fervor for change is ameliorated by a higher minimum wage?
If we hold that college should be free; then we should be consistent in that it should be free for everyone and not just a particular group of people. Same with universal healthcare tbh. If we hold that healthcare is a right for all people; then we should treat it as a right for all people.
Were you even listening? Serious question.
He wasn't fishing for applause mentioning veterans, Bernie is a leader in the senate on veteran issues.
Angelus Errare
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Hilary got'em when she said "she".
LOL center-left peeps also use that pragmatism argument when their policy ends up doing jack shit
Fucking hell you guys that believe you should not vote for ideals should read up on history
nope
yeah for sure
to me it all comes down to the issues. i couldn't give a fuck who is in charge, as long as they fight for ideals that are pro-people and looking to improve life for everyone. i mean shit, I wish we voted specifically on issues instead of having to pick a 'least worst person' every four years, but that's not how it works haha. so if hilldawg is actually going to give it her best to push those policies through, then that's great. bernie does seem a lot more idealistic but that's also kinda why I like him. he's stood his ground on what he believes and it really has the betterment of the people in mind.
but regardless of who wins itll be interesting to watch, as always
eBay Huckster
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But is it ballsy enough that I'll go back in time and post it five minutes before the first debate ends?
Barajas_201
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From a leftist Mexican, Bernie won.
He's gonna be proven right within two pages of this thread.
ElectricThunder
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The oft forgotten problem of all the "incremental long game" posturing is that, well, it rarely accounts for the long simmering, it not accelerating, regressive nonsense---it'd be one thing if our status quo actually befit the year 2015 in any sort of respectable way, but centimeters forward will go awry versus the long ongoing inches backwards.
I mean, The Increments has been the background drone for decades now as the great assurance almost to the point of something of an afterlife apparatus.
I mean, The Increments has been the background drone for decades now as the great assurance almost to the point of something of an afterlife apparatus.
krackerjack
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Yeah, all of us watching were like "oooohhhhh!"
They're called fans.
He ain't wrong though
Brawndo Addict
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Gonna bring that revolution just like Obama did....oh wait
TyphoonStruggle
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All she needs to say is "CUT IT OUT!" Right?
Ya! That's exactly what we need. Let's go invade some more countries!
The backwards stuff is happening primarily at the state level in large part due to gerrymandering and GOP control. It's a huge issue.
RumblingRosco
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Bernie earned me.
I think that one was sarcasm.
It would be great if that was the case, but we live in the real world and things cost money. I'd rather not spend tax money subsidizing college for people who can afford it. Is it fair? Nope!
NullPointer
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That's the problem. If Bernie wants to lead the revolution he has to show the way. And thats got to be something more than donating to him and putting him in office.
Millions of people stand up, turn off the TV and then.... what? No, seriously, WHAT?
That's not a revolution. That's a normal campaign, and its not going to cut it when the goal is systemic upheaval.
Obama wanted compromise and meeting across the aisle - that was his way, rhetorically linked to the very core ideals behind the country in a way that resonated. What is Bernie's way?
Elfforkusu
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They are usually called "Democrats".
*lone cough in the audience*
Yeah, it's just crazy to me that the frontrunner has people clapping for her when they like her answers.
Bam Bam Baklava
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I don't understand how Bernie is going to win a general with saying how shitty everything is and running away from Obama's accomplishments.
Pendulum politics only swings two ways and he's the same party as the guy who has been President for 8 years. It's the same reason why 2012 was good for Dems. They had Obama going out reminding people of all the stuff he's actually gotten done with what he had inherited.
Pendulum politics only swings two ways and he's the same party as the guy who has been President for 8 years. It's the same reason why 2012 was good for Dems. They had Obama going out reminding people of all the stuff he's actually gotten done with what he had inherited.
I think "just get off your ass and vote" is what he's going for.
exmachina64
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You mean Democrats showed up to a Democratic debate?
Frank the Great
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Yes, absolutely. And all those polls showing that Hilldawg is absolutely crushing Bernie are also a conspiracy! It simply cannot be the case that there are more Hillary fans in the audience because far more Hillary fans exist!
The delusion of Bernie fans is as adorable as a little old man passionately yelling at clouds past his bedtime.
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