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The All-Star Break is over! The NEW MLB Thread - This half we get stickied for sure!

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Silkworm

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Meier said:
Haha I said the Braves are going to win in the 9th.. and they did. WOO, go Braves! First time I can remember rooting for them... ever.

Giants hate: bringing baseball fans all over together.

Yeah, I too am glad for the 1/2 game increase in lead the Braves gave the Dodgers over the Giants. But I also don't want the Braves to do too well, or it'll be the Dodgers playing the Braves in the playoffs with the Braves having the home field advantage due to having the better record. But then again, that's probably looking too far forward. I should and will be happy if the Dodgers can just make it to the playoffs and hold off the Giants and the Padres. Padres have to play at St. Louis so that should help cool them off a bit (I hope) and Giants get to play the Rockies in San Fran which could help them cut back into the Dodgers lead (Dodgers play the Diamonbacks next which should mean that they'll win 2 out of 3, but then I didn't expect the Astros to beat the Cubs 3 out of 4 at Chicago so anything can happen I suppose :p).
 

methodman

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Ugh. Giants bullpen = pure bullshit; we need these wins you assholes.

Willco said:
I can't believe this shit about some writers wanting to give the MVP to Scott Rolen. What fucking sport are you watching?

Rolen is a good player, no doubt, but he's playing on an entire team that's playing spectacular.

All the Giants have are Barry Bonds and Jason Schmidt. Really. They might as well change their names to the San Francisco Bonds. He is fucking carrying that entire team.

IAWTP.

Pujols, Rolen, Edmonds, Beltre, whoever the fuck else you guys can name can not exceed (or even match) what Bonds has done this year for the Giants. He would have so many more home runs if he was walked 100 less times, or he got one strike per bat (instead of getting walked): 189 walks at the moment I think. Hes unbelieveable. If you guys saw those two homeruns (which, of course knowing the Giants) won them the game, they were both crushed for more then 460 feet. Awesome.
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
Holy shit that expo was safe at home...fucking lucky Cubs.
 

Meier

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methodman said:
He would have so many more home runs if he was walked 100 less times

Maybe if he pulled the trigger a little more often he wouldn't have as many walks. Don't get me wrong, his eye is incredible -- but sometimes swinging at a pitch that might be a ball but is hittable can be more valuable than taking it.
 

Mrbob

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Hey Stros fans, why don't we talk about Berkmans Oscar caliber performance some more! What a douche!!!

Anyway, like I told you girilies, Cubs will win tonight and reclaim the lead in their destined wild card spot! San Fran, San Diego, Florida, Houston, NON FACTORS. Cubs = champs!
 

Mrbob

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They both should be suspended for 5-10 games.

Remlinger for being an idiot and throwing near the head and Berkman for being a faking douche!
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
It's coming...


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Mrbob

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^^^^

LOL.

The only reason for the existence of Stros and White Sox fans right now is to hassle Cubs fans. Your teams seasons are over so you resort to haggling Cubs fans! :D
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
Fuck I wish the Stros had Maddux pitching,jesus Munro sucks ass.

I miss Wade and Andy.
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
Mrbob said:
^^^^

LOL.

The only reason for the existence of Stros and White Sox fans right now is to hassle Cubs fans. Your teams seasons are over so you resort to haggling Cubs fans! :D

I can go back into this thread and pull up quotes from you and Cubsdouche with you guys making fun of the Stros even when they were 8 or 9 games back in the Wildcard and playing beyond awful...you guys have a hard on for the Stros and you cant admit it....you both cant stop following them and making comments even when they're not in it.I cant wait to see what happens when your Cubs dont win shit.Are you both going to go sit in a hole somewhere? you both talk soooo much false crap its not even funny....ok maybe it is :D
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
BRRRRRRRRRAD 3-RUN HR!
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
My poop can pitch better than Munro...get him out!
 

J2 Cool

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Man, Maddux has been insane lately. Past the 1st inning he's been close to unhittable. Definetly what I'd call a resurrgent year for him, especially if he keeps this up. You can't keep a pitcher like that out of postseason either. I'd say Clement would be the lone man out in the rotation for me though he's had an unbelievably consistent year and maybe his best yet
 

methodman

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Meier said:
Maybe if he pulled the trigger a little more often he wouldn't have as many walks. Don't get me wrong, his eye is incredible -- but sometimes swinging at a pitch that might be a ball but is hittable can be more valuable than taking it.

Yep, this is true. He just takes too many pitches, which other batters would probably swing at (and miss).
 

Meier

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Yeah man, his underperformance for those months was a major disappointment for me since it was hurting my fantasy team so badly.. he needs to pour it on for the rest of the year.
 

Desperado

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Mrbob said:
Once the rain stops holding us back from beating down the Brewers today, here is the remaining Cubs schedule for the year:

Aug 26 HOU
Aug 27 HOU
Aug 28 HOU
Aug 29 HOU
Aug 30 @MON
Aug 31 @MON
Sep 1 @MON
Sep 3 @FLA
Sep 4 @FLA
Sep 5 @FLA
Sep 6 MON
Sep 7 MON
Sep 8 MON
Sep 10 FLA
Sep 11 FLA
Sep 12 FLA
Sep 13 PIT
Sep 14 PIT
Sep 15 PIT
Sep 16 @CIN
Sep 17 @CIN
Sep 18 @CIN
Sep 19 @CIN
Sep 21 @PIT
Sep 22 @PIT
Sep 23 @PIT
Sep 24 @NYM
Sep 25 @NYM
Sep 26 @NYM
Sep 27 CIN
Sep 28 CIN
Sep 29 CIN
Sep 30 CIN
Oct 1 ATL
Oct 2 ATL
Oct 3 ATL

Looking at this schedule, we should go at least 30-6 the rest of the way.

:lol well bub there's only a 3 loss cushion for your Cubbies to meet your ridiculous prediction now.
 

Mrbob

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Desperado said:
:lol well bub there's only a 3 loss cushion for your Cubbies to meet your ridiculous prediction now.

Just a slight detour!

The path to 28-3 the rest of the way is within our grasp!!!
 

J2 Cool

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Florida games will be huge. They're making a real run now and will definetly look to tighten the race. A rematch of the NLCS will be real cool at this time in the year
 

Lathentar

Looking for Pants
J2 Cool said:
Florida games will be huge. They're making a real run now and will definetly look to tighten the race. A rematch of the NLCS will be real cool at this time in the year
Houston and Florida are still very much in the race. Especially since Florida and the Cubs play 6 times in the next 2 weeks. Also, San Fran. and San Diego will be playing each other shortly correct?

If the Cubs are still in the Wild Card lead after September 12th, I predict they'll win it.
 

Scoobert

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So how big is the Florida and Cubs matchup? Florida is looking at sellout crowds for the series. I think the Marlins have had one sellout game all year. Should say how big this series is.
 

davis

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The Red Sox have the best playoff team imo, I really think this might be their year. Shame it won't be with Mr. Red Sox Nomar.
 

NLB2

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Scoobert said:
So how big is the Florida and Cubs matchup? Florida is looking at sellout crowds for the series. I think the Marlins have had one sellout game all year. Should say how big this series is.
Well, the Cubs sell out wherever they go (Montreal exluded). But it is a huge series, still.
 

Lathentar

Looking for Pants
davis said:
The Red Sox have the best playoff team imo, I really think this might be their year. Shame it won't be with Mr. Red Sox Nomar.
I'd argue that St. Louis is the best playoff team. They're easily the best team in baseball right now. No one can seem to beat them.
 

Eminem

goddamit, Griese!
Mrbob said:
^^^^

LOL.

The only reason for the existence of Stros and White Sox fans right now is to hassle Cubs fans. Your teams seasons are over so you resort to haggling Cubs fans! :D

sox fans? yes. stros fans? not quite.
 

Eminem

goddamit, Griese!
as long we're talking about bonds...here's some insiiiiiiiiider:

MLB Insider...Aug 30: Bonds' best not 2001; Shawn Estes, Jose Mesa


Bonds' best not 2001
By Rob Neyer

To help celebrate ESPN's 25th birthday, I've been asked to compile a list of the 10 best seasons by major league baseball players since 1979. I agreed, but with one caveat: no player is allowed to appear on the list more than once. I know that's not fair to Barry Bonds, but without this rule the list would very nearly be just Barry Bonds. And that's a list for a different time. Instead, here are 10 different players, and I should say beforehand that everything counts, including postseason performance (good or bad):


10. Will Clark, 1989
It's perhaps the great unknown season of the last quarter-century. In Win Shares, Bill James argues that "the best (hitter's) season of the 1980s ... was by Will Clark in 1989." Why would James argue that was better than not only his Giants teammate Kevin Mitchell -- who hit 47 home runs and was named MVP -- but also every other great hitter in that decade? The little things, mostly. Clark batted .333, scored 104 runs, and drove in 111, which of course are impressive numbers but not heroic. Dig a little deeper, though, and Clark's 1989 season looks a bit more impressive with every shovelful of dirt. The National League that season was a pitcher's league, and Clark played his home games in a pitcher's park. And he thrived in clutch situations; he batted .389 with runners in scoring position, and 13 of his 23 home runs came with men on the bases. I'm not going to argue that Clark's 1989 season was the best season of that decade, because I don't trust Win Shares that much. But I will argue that it was great, and that it shouldn't be forgotten.


9. Rickey Henderson, 1990
How would you like to have a speedy left fielder with a league-leading .439 on-base percentage and a league-leading 65 stolen bases? Pretty good leadoff man, right? Now throw in 28 home runs, and you've got Rickey Henderson in one of his two greatest seasons (he was nearly as good in 1985). In 1990 he was named MVP, and deservedly so. He makes this list despite playing only 136 games, thanks in part to an excellent World Series against the Reds (though the A's were swept, four straight).

8. Albert Pujols, 2003
In case anybody thought Pujols' phenomenal rookie season (2001) was a fluke, he came back and did roughly the same thing in 2002. And in case anybody thought those first two seasons were a fluke, he raised his game a notch or three in 2003. In addition to winning the NL batting title with a .359 mark, Pujols also led the majors in runs (137), doubles (51), and extra-base hits (95). And for the second straight season, Pujols finished second to Barry Bonds in the MVP balloting.

7. Ken Caminiti, 1996
Yes, Caminiti's brawn was loaded with anabolic steroids in 1996, which might well disqualify him from winning the highly coveted "Great Example for Kids Award." But it ain't cheatin' if you don't get caught, and Caminiti didn't get caught (not surprising, considering that nobody was trying to catch him). In addition to being considered the spiritual leader of a Padres team that reached the playoffs, Caminiti destroyed his previous career highs by hitting 40 home runs and knocking in 130 runs, and he also won his second of three straight Gold Gloves at third base.

6. Cal Ripken, 1983
Ripken was almost identically brilliant in 1983 and 1984, but '83 gets the nod here because the Orioles won the World Series and (not coincidentally) Ripken took first prize in the MVP sweepstakes. In just his second full season -- he'd been Rookie of the Year in 1982 -- Ripken played in every game (of course) and batted .318 with 76 extra-base hits (47 doubles and 27 homers), tops in the American League. (There is a real argument for Ripken's 1984 campaign, though, as he apparently was better with the glove that season.)

5. Sammy Sosa, 2001
When most people think of Sammy Sosa, they still think of Sosa's 1998 season and that thrilling (until late September) duel with Mark McGwire. But he was significantly better in 2001. That season his on-base percentage was 60 points higher (.437-.377), his slugging percentage was 90 points higher, he drove in a career-best 160 runs ... and he also managed to hit 64 home runs, which today ranks as the fifth-highest total in major league history.

4. George Brett, 1980
I'm reluctant to consider a player-season that included only 117 regular-season games, even if those 117 games did feature 118 RBI and a flirtation with the magical .400 until the closing days of the season. It was a great season, obviously, but what puts Brett on this list is a single moment on Oct. 10. The Royals had lost American League Championship Series to the Yankees in 1976, 1977, and 1978, and after a year off for both teams they faced off again in 1980. The Royals took Games 1 and 2 in Kansas City, but they trailed 2-1 in the seventh inning of Game 3. In the top of the seventh, though, Brett launched a Goose Gossage fastball into the right-field upper deck -- back in those days, not many home runs landed there -- for a three-run homer and a two-run lead that carried the Royals to the World Series. George Brett got a lot of big hits in his Hall of Fame career, but this one was the biggest.

3. Robin Yount, 1982
Brewers shortstop Yount led the American League with 210 hits, 46 doubles, a .578 slugging percentage, and a .962 OPS ... Oh, and did I mention he played pretty good defense for a team that won its first pennant, and wound up his brilliant year with the MVP Award?

2. Mark McGwire, 1998
In July and even August, we still wondered if McGwire could really hit more home runs in a season than Roger Maris. Would he be healthy enough? Would he be able to handle the pressure? Could he answer the same stupid questions in yet one more city without losing his mind? The answer to all of these questions was, of course, an emphatic yes. McGwire tied Maris on Sept. 7, passed him on Sept. 8, and toward the end of the month he hit five homers in his last three games to finish with a previously unthinkable total: 70 home runs. Of course, we had no idea that McGwire's new record would last only three seasons because of this guy ...

1. Barry Bonds, 2002
If we allowed one player to occupy multiple spots on this list, Bonds certainly would appear three times, and perhaps five or six times. His best regular season was actually 2001, when he played in 153 games and hit 73 home runs. In 2002 his games fell to 143 and his home runs to 46. He compensated with a .370 batting average and a major-league record .584 on-base percentage, but what really sets Bonds's 2002 season apart was what happened after the season. Long criticized for his postseason struggles with the Pirates and Giants -- prior to 2002, Bonds had batted .196 with just one home run in 27 postseason games -- he exploded in 2002, hitting eight home runs in 17 games. Bonds' 2002 season is not only the best of the ESPN Era, but quite possibly the best ever.

Just missing the list: Mike Schmidt (1980), Jeff Bagwell (1994), Craig Biggio (1997), Mike Piazza (1997), Alex Rodriguez (take your pick), and Jeff Kent (2000).

Phil-in catcher

Pitchers get their own sidebar and not as many slots, but here are the five best seasons by pitchers in the last 25 years:
5. Eric Gagne, 2003
Say what you want about closers, but he didn't blow a save all season (yes, yes, except for the All-Star Game).

4. Roger Clemens, 1997
Just one of many possible seasons that could be listed for Clemens, but we're going with '97 for the league-leading complete games, shutouts, innings, strikeouts, and ERA.

3. Greg Maddux, 1995
Because of lingering strike, started only 28 games but went 19-2 with 1.63 ERA, and led league for second straight season in wins, complete games, shutouts, innings, and ERA.

2. Randy Johnson, 2001
As if 21 wins and career-high 372 strikeouts weren't enough, slew postseason demons with 1.52 ERA and five wins, including three in World Series.

1. Dwight Gooden, 1985
Won 24 games and posted 1.53 ERA, the lowest since Bob Gibson's 1.12 in 1968. Gooden was only 20, but would never enjoy another great season.

Just missing: Dan Quisenberry (1983), John Tudor (1985), Bret Saberhagen (1989), Kevin Brown (1996), Pedro Martinez (1999).

RUmor Central

Pirates pull Mesa off table

WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Shawn Estes
Rockies

Giants

Aug. 30 - The Giants have been awarded waiver claims on LHP Shawn Estes and OF Jeromy Burnitz, The Denver Post reports. But a deal must be done before the Aug. 31 deadline.
"The Giants are a good team who always seem to make the playoffs," Burnitz told The Post. "But I am not optimistic that anything is going to happen." The Rockies made Burnitz available because of an impasse in contract talks.



WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Jose Mesa
Pirates

Giants

Aug. 30 - The Pirates pulled closer Jose Mesa back off waivers after failing to work out a deal with the Giants, the Contra Costa Times reports. Mesa, who doesn't have a no-trade clause, said he wouldn't have joined the Giants if a deal had been struck.
"If they trade me, whatever team picks me up is in trouble, because I'm going home," Mesa told the Pittsburgh-Tribune Review on Aug. 27.

enjoy
 

Mrbob

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I can't believe I'm going to say this but...

GO CARDS GO! Sweep the Padres while we sweep the Expos!!!!

LaRussa is a little bitch like Berkman so he'll probably throw the series just to screw up the Cubs playoff chances.
 

Desperado

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Desperado

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I hope Backe can rebound from his last outing.

though, that might not matter because of this:

"The offense has carried the team, putting up 43 runs in the last four games, compared to 19 by their opponents."
 

Mrbob

Member
Ahh fuck Prior already rocked for 3 in the bottom of the 1st. The big blow a two out two run double by Alex Gonzalez. Lol. ;__;



!!!!

Another double! 4-0 Expos now in the 1st!
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
I think Prior is still hurt and he isnt letting people know....something is off with him and it isnt rust.
 

Mrbob

Member
Matrix said:
I think Prior is still hurt and he isnt letting people know....something is off with him and it isnt rust.


He is. We'll find out about it after the season ends. He has a problem with pain in his elbow. He talked about the pain like a month ago (5th or 6th start back) and he is basically trying to pitch through it. I haven't heard anything since. But between his achilles problem and elbow problem its taking a toll on him. I'm almost at the point where I'd rather see him shut down for the rest of the year to get healthy again for next year. I wouldn't want to see some sort of serious injury occur. We could make Rusch a starter again, but, uhhh, who would be of assistence in that powerhouse bullpen the Cubs have?
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
Yea I think the Cubs should shut Prior down :D


Kent solo HR...lets go stros!
 

Miguel

Member
Holy shit, Astros have 45 steals since the all star break, after like 21 before the break

Beltran ha 21 stolen bases since the break, with a 100% SB percentage.

BELTRAAAAAAAAN!
 
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