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The All-Star Break is over! The NEW MLB Thread - This half we get stickied for sure!
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Yup, dude just plain sucks. He's never had a good outing where he was brought in to pitch a complete inning. Tracy better smarten up or we will be looking at a 1 game playoff in San Francisco on Monday for the N.L West Title. >=\
WOW, Tracy has Elmer Dessens coming out of the bullpen to start tommorow's game. LOL
WOW, Tracy has Elmer Dessens coming out of the bullpen to start tommorow's game. LOL
speshylives
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I don't think I can mentally handle another Yankee / Red Sox series, and I think Anaheim's a nice first round matchup for the Sox.
Tracy's thinking he's got the first game, but then he puts Vanefro out there who gives up a HR. Don't know why he didn't put in Alvarez if he wanted a left hander in there, unless he's trying to save him, put this is the freaking division clinching game, win it first THEN rest your guys, genius.
edit: the above post makes me get another beer
edit: the above post makes me get another beer
speshylives
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That's why we need another Cleveland run explosion.
Wheeljack539
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The offense has been bugging me too. I've had a sick feeling all week long. Every sports show that I've seen has been saying that the Dodgers need to lose 5 straight(assuming Houston sweeps, and the Giants sweep along with the tie breaker game and then lose to Houston in the wildcard tie breaker) to get bumped, and I can't stop thinking about '96 and '97, where in '96 we lost the last games of the season to lose the pennant, and although we got the wildcard we got swept by Atlanta. In '97 I remeber them doing well and then the last two weeks in September we couldn't buy a win and lost something like 8 straight to end that year. I've got a feeling that Houston will sweep and a sick feeling about the Giants right now.
I so hope to God that I'm wrong.
I so hope to God that I'm wrong.
Ankiel is a fucking headcase. I saw him pitch one game...where he fucking MISSED THE CATCHER BY A GOOD 10 FEET!
The ball ended up hitting the net in front of the seats.
Take me out to the ball game.
Take me out to the crowd
Buy me some Peanuts and Cracker Jacks
I don't care if The Lizard comes back.
So it's :lol at the Cubbies
If they don't win, they complain.
For it's 1, 2, 3 straight fly outs.
The Cubs...choke...again!
The ball ended up hitting the net in front of the seats.
Take me out to the ball game.
Take me out to the crowd
Buy me some Peanuts and Cracker Jacks
I don't care if The Lizard comes back.
So it's :lol at the Cubbies
If they don't win, they complain.
For it's 1, 2, 3 straight fly outs.
The Cubs...choke...again!
Giants - Good fucking job Kirk Reuter, you finally showed up when we needed you!
A lot of important hits today for the giants, just keep this up and I think we can win the next two games.
Tommorows game: The Dodgers will send Elmer Dessens (2-6) against Brett Tomko (11-7). HAHAHAHHA. Brett Tomko has been smoking hot the last couple of times hes started; which is pretty awesome. And the dodgers are gona send Kazuhisa Ishii (unless they lose tommorow, which WILL happen) they will then send Odalis Perez (on short rest) to play against Jason Schmidt.
Awesome. And if Houston loses once to Colorado, and we win three games, we take the NL WEST! COME ON COLORADO!!!!!!!!!!11111
A lot of important hits today for the giants, just keep this up and I think we can win the next two games.
Tommorows game: The Dodgers will send Elmer Dessens (2-6) against Brett Tomko (11-7). HAHAHAHHA. Brett Tomko has been smoking hot the last couple of times hes started; which is pretty awesome. And the dodgers are gona send Kazuhisa Ishii (unless they lose tommorow, which WILL happen) they will then send Odalis Perez (on short rest) to play against Jason Schmidt.
Awesome. And if Houston loses once to Colorado, and we win three games, we take the NL WEST! COME ON COLORADO!!!!!!!!!!11111
SSGMUN10000
Connoisseur Of Tedium
Yes tomorrow I will be at Astros game.
Scenarios: Manager Phil Garner wasn't sure prior to Friday's game with the Rockies if Roger Clemens was going to pitch on Sunday, but all signs are pointing to the Rocket returning to the mound on three days of rest in a possible Wild Card clinching scenario.
In fact, it's looking like the only way Clemens would not pitch Sunday is if the Astros have already clinched, which means they would have to win Friday and Saturday and the Giants would have to lose both games.
If the Astros are ahead in the Wild Card standings by one game with one left to play, it's likely Clemens will pitch.
"I would probably play that as if we were tied," Garner said. "You don't want to let anybody in the door."
Plus, Garner added, he doesn't want to travel all the way to the West Coast to play a one-game playoff and then fly cross-country to Atlanta to begin the Division Series. If the Astros have to play a tiebreaker against the Giants, it will take place in San Francisco. If the Giants and Dodgers tie for the NL West division title, they will play a one-game playoff, site to be determined, and the loser of that game would play the Astros. A coin flip will determine that venue, also.
"If we're in a tied situation, the only team we're going to play here is the Cubs," Garner said. "I don't want to go to San Francisco or LA. I don't want to go those two places and have to win a game. If I'm a game up, I'm sure I'd play [Sunday] as if we were tied."
Turning point: Things are not going well for the Chicago Cubs these days. Not only have they dropped six of their last seven games, but management is none too pleased with television announcer Steve Stone, who sent harsh criticism toward the Cubs following their 2-1, 12-inning loss to the Reds on Thursday.
Stone mentioned the Astros during his tirade, blaming the Cubs for giving the Astros the spark they needed to make their incredible run that put them back into the Wild Card race.
In the WGN Radio interview, Stone said the "defining moment" of the Cubs' collapse was a 15-7 loss to Houston on Aug. 27. That was the game catcher Michael Barrett challenged Roy Oswalt, upset after being hit by the Astros pitcher five days earlier.
"The one game that defined this season, that allowed a team that was dead to get back in was one of the days that started a lot of problems for my partner and I, one of the best partners in the game," Stone said. "That is the Roy Oswalt game, when Kent Mercker hit him in the sixth inning. That illuminated the Houston Astros.
"They were left for dead. The Cubs beat them the first game in a three-game series, they knocked Kerry Wood out in the fifth inning, they hit four home runs [off Wood], Oswalt pitched eight innings on a day the heat factor being 95 degrees," Stone said.
"Instead of being buried, they got back in the race," Stone said. "And guess what? They're up by one game now. The Cubs had a chance to put their foot on their throat, and good teams do that. When you have a chance to eliminate a team, you don't take a personal vendetta out until that team is dead. Kill them, then you have plenty of time for personal vendettas. The Cubs didn't do that and it's coming back to haunt them."
That 15-7 Astros win at Wrigley was the beginning of a club-record 12-game winning streak that contributed to a 33-10 mark from Aug. 15 through Wednesday's win over the Cardinals.
While Stone may have his own ideas of what sparked the turnaround, not everyone in the Astros' clubhouse would agree. Oswalt told USA Today in mid-September that the dispute between he and Bagwell regarding Oswalt's ejection during an Aug. 22 loss to the Cubs provided the fuel that lit the fire.
Oswalt was ejected after he hit Michael Barrett with a pitch, and Bagwell said later said it was obvious the plunking was intentional and he wasn't surprised Oswalt was thrown out.
Bagwell made the comments with the cameras and tape recorders rolling, and controversy ensued.
Garner, for one, was glad the conflict between Oswalt and Bagwell was made public. It forced the two to resolve their issues quickly.
"The tragedy would have been not to say anything and then find out two weeks later, 'This is the way I felt,'" Garner said. "Something got out, the guys worked it out, and you go on.
"If it's left under the radar and just hangs in there, I think it can be a cancer. I didn't have a problem with all that. I would have a problem if the two had not gotten together and come to a solution."
Alyson Footer is a reporter for MLB.com. Carrie Muskat contributed to this report. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.
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In fact, it's looking like the only way Clemens would not pitch Sunday is if the Astros have already clinched, which means they would have to win Friday and Saturday and the Giants would have to lose both games.
If the Astros are ahead in the Wild Card standings by one game with one left to play, it's likely Clemens will pitch.
"I would probably play that as if we were tied," Garner said. "You don't want to let anybody in the door."
Plus, Garner added, he doesn't want to travel all the way to the West Coast to play a one-game playoff and then fly cross-country to Atlanta to begin the Division Series. If the Astros have to play a tiebreaker against the Giants, it will take place in San Francisco. If the Giants and Dodgers tie for the NL West division title, they will play a one-game playoff, site to be determined, and the loser of that game would play the Astros. A coin flip will determine that venue, also.
"If we're in a tied situation, the only team we're going to play here is the Cubs," Garner said. "I don't want to go to San Francisco or LA. I don't want to go those two places and have to win a game. If I'm a game up, I'm sure I'd play [Sunday] as if we were tied."
Turning point: Things are not going well for the Chicago Cubs these days. Not only have they dropped six of their last seven games, but management is none too pleased with television announcer Steve Stone, who sent harsh criticism toward the Cubs following their 2-1, 12-inning loss to the Reds on Thursday.
Stone mentioned the Astros during his tirade, blaming the Cubs for giving the Astros the spark they needed to make their incredible run that put them back into the Wild Card race.
In the WGN Radio interview, Stone said the "defining moment" of the Cubs' collapse was a 15-7 loss to Houston on Aug. 27. That was the game catcher Michael Barrett challenged Roy Oswalt, upset after being hit by the Astros pitcher five days earlier.
"The one game that defined this season, that allowed a team that was dead to get back in was one of the days that started a lot of problems for my partner and I, one of the best partners in the game," Stone said. "That is the Roy Oswalt game, when Kent Mercker hit him in the sixth inning. That illuminated the Houston Astros.
"They were left for dead. The Cubs beat them the first game in a three-game series, they knocked Kerry Wood out in the fifth inning, they hit four home runs [off Wood], Oswalt pitched eight innings on a day the heat factor being 95 degrees," Stone said.
"Instead of being buried, they got back in the race," Stone said. "And guess what? They're up by one game now. The Cubs had a chance to put their foot on their throat, and good teams do that. When you have a chance to eliminate a team, you don't take a personal vendetta out until that team is dead. Kill them, then you have plenty of time for personal vendettas. The Cubs didn't do that and it's coming back to haunt them."
That 15-7 Astros win at Wrigley was the beginning of a club-record 12-game winning streak that contributed to a 33-10 mark from Aug. 15 through Wednesday's win over the Cardinals.
While Stone may have his own ideas of what sparked the turnaround, not everyone in the Astros' clubhouse would agree. Oswalt told USA Today in mid-September that the dispute between he and Bagwell regarding Oswalt's ejection during an Aug. 22 loss to the Cubs provided the fuel that lit the fire.
Oswalt was ejected after he hit Michael Barrett with a pitch, and Bagwell said later said it was obvious the plunking was intentional and he wasn't surprised Oswalt was thrown out.
Bagwell made the comments with the cameras and tape recorders rolling, and controversy ensued.
Garner, for one, was glad the conflict between Oswalt and Bagwell was made public. It forced the two to resolve their issues quickly.
"The tragedy would have been not to say anything and then find out two weeks later, 'This is the way I felt,'" Garner said. "Something got out, the guys worked it out, and you go on.
"If it's left under the radar and just hangs in there, I think it can be a cancer. I didn't have a problem with all that. I would have a problem if the two had not gotten together and come to a solution."
Alyson Footer is a reporter for MLB.com. Carrie Muskat contributed to this report. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.
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Ned Flanders
Banned
Ichiro: Props. I got the chills watching the record-breaker zip through the infield. A true feat.
Anyone think that if the Dodgers blow the west AND the wildcard that Milton Bradley may start receiving death threats?
'Stros are on fire. While I can say that at the begining of the season that I may have predicted that Lidge would see some time at closer, I would have never predicted he would be as effective as he's been, and I sure as hell wouldn't have seen Micelli winding up as his ace setup man. I definitely can't say I saw Bags salvaging his piss-poor season, but things have just all managed to come together nicely for the Stro's at just the right time. Beltran is like a beautiful gift from the heavens, and watching the Cub's heavy handed righty lineup collapse may have finally convinced me that ditching Hidalgo was a good move.
I hope I don't jinx things *knock on a forest*, but I'd love to see a dream scenario where the Stro's win the card, scrap through the first round, get Pettitte back to add a power lefty to the rotation around the NLCS/WS, and a redemption-laden title run so that Bagwell can retire a champ. But of course just making the wildcard alone would be a great thing too.
Anyone think that if the Dodgers blow the west AND the wildcard that Milton Bradley may start receiving death threats?
'Stros are on fire. While I can say that at the begining of the season that I may have predicted that Lidge would see some time at closer, I would have never predicted he would be as effective as he's been, and I sure as hell wouldn't have seen Micelli winding up as his ace setup man. I definitely can't say I saw Bags salvaging his piss-poor season, but things have just all managed to come together nicely for the Stro's at just the right time. Beltran is like a beautiful gift from the heavens, and watching the Cub's heavy handed righty lineup collapse may have finally convinced me that ditching Hidalgo was a good move.
I hope I don't jinx things *knock on a forest*, but I'd love to see a dream scenario where the Stro's win the card, scrap through the first round, get Pettitte back to add a power lefty to the rotation around the NLCS/WS, and a redemption-laden title run so that Bagwell can retire a champ. But of course just making the wildcard alone would be a great thing too.
carbonbased
Member
My man!
I knew he could do it. Ichiro is one of the most productive, consistent, and respectful players ever to step out onto the diamond, and there's no one I'd rather see garner this kind of praise. Even though he had to sit through one of the worst seasons on Seattle history, Ichiro still remained positive and provided something for the press to cover. Here's hoping he's able to win the AL MVP award, too, although Guerrero may be a more likely candidate.Holy shite this article is on the frontpage of chicagocubs.com main website! :lol
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/NASApp/...content_id=877891&vkey=perspectives&fext=.jsp
Now THAT is funny. Baker needs to get this team focused from day one next year on the field. No more off field BS. That is what cost us the wild card.
MWA HAHAAHAHAHA. The team gets punked on their own website.
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/NASApp/...content_id=877891&vkey=perspectives&fext=.jsp
Now THAT is funny. Baker needs to get this team focused from day one next year on the field. No more off field BS. That is what cost us the wild card.
MWA HAHAAHAHAHA. The team gets punked on their own website.
Who's gonna win the NL MVP this year? Pujols and Beltre are having big seasons, but Bonds isn't far off them, and he gets walked half the time. He's got almost as many runs as he has hits too, which is always a crazy stat. I can't see them giving one of those other guys and not at least giving Bonds a share of it. Then again, they might totally Mike Jordan him and give it o Beltre out of pity. :| PEACE.
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