ClassyPenguin
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I would assume it's low, mid, high range. If they pull it off reliably then my mind will be truly blown.
Other than the m3, m5, x3 and Z4 I can't tell BMW's apart.
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Other than the m3, m5, x3 and Z4 I can't tell BMW's apart.
Up until recently, it was pretty straightforward. For BMW, the last two digits represent the engine size, so a 325i would be a 3 series (compact) with a 2.5L engine. The "i" stands for fuel injection, "d" stands for diesel. For Mercedes, all three numbers stood for engine size. A C300 would have a 3.00L engine.
But now, bigger numbers just mean more powerful. It's like they recognize that most people don't understand the nomenclature anyway and just buy the one with the bigger number.
The main reasons for this happening are the downsizing of engines and the increase in turbocharging engines. If you downsize an engine, even if it's more powerful than its predecessor, it would look worse because the number would be smaller. The trouble with turbocharging is how to represent it. The BMW 328i has a 3L naturally aspirated engine. The BMW 335i has the same engine, but turbocharged. I'd put a "t" on the end, personally.
Circle T
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It started a while back, really. The older 740s and 540s back in the 90s had 4.4L V8s, and the 750 had a 5.4L V12. Hell, back in the early 80s, the 745 had a 3.4L V8. And let's not forget Mercedes with all of their "63" AMG cars, which are actually 6.2L.
It would be nice if they stuck to a name/engine relation naming, but like you said, with turbos and superchargers, along with diesels, there really is no good way to do it these days.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Sooo, I know you can't compare currencies from different countries, but 1) it's odd that Toyota used USD in their press release. And 2) The Yen and USD are fairly close in conversion.
It really does look like the base car will start in the mid-20s. What's absolutely striking is if the GT Limited car will really sticker in the mid-30s. If that ends up being the case in the US, this is the rip-off of the century.
It really does look like the base car will start in the mid-20s. What's absolutely striking is if the GT Limited car will really sticker in the mid-30s. If that ends up being the case in the US, this is the rip-off of the century.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Hmmm, I see that the 370Z runs over $50K when converted to USD. But obviously, it retails for $29,900 as a base model here. I'm really curious as to what Toyota's pricing model will be for the US. They have to be extremely aggressive.
BoobPhysics101
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I really think the GT86 could be a 370z killer...
If it didn't have 110 whp less LOL.
I totally agree since I am hoping that a loaded example will be around 26500.
Really, we can't compare Japanese prices to US prices at all right now. There is no way they would sell here for those prices.
Liquidsnake
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I'm still going to get one. I have a 370z, and my lease is ending. Right around the time the FR-S is released.
I am also looking into a G37, I just can't get into that cars looks. Its kinda why I passed on it and got a 370. The ass is too fat, its so high off the ground.
My uncle works for Toyota, and promised me first look at the FR-S as soon as it comes in. I really hate giving up all that HP, but I think it looks sexy as hell, and the promise of an amazing driving experience and dat low center of gravity makes it appealing.
Every video I have seen from what I think are non biased test driver of the FR-S come out of the car with their mouth agape. Its all over you tube.
I don't know I have 5 months to figure out what I want to do.
Liquidsnake
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I meant in the fact that they are not test drivers from Toyota.
Then you're thinking of "independent" test drivers.
So confused, I saw 5 (five) Porsche Panameras on the 15 minute drive home, 3 within 30 seconds of each other, all black. I thought it was illegal for blind people to drive?
I did see a yellow baby Aston Martin, didn't expect to ever see that!
Oh and I also saw what I initially thought was an Aston One-77 but it had a split down the grill and a badge I had never seen before. It was coming the other way so I didn't get a chance to read what it said on the back.
I did see a yellow baby Aston Martin, didn't expect to ever see that!
Oh and I also saw what I initially thought was an Aston One-77 but it had a split down the grill and a badge I had never seen before. It was coming the other way so I didn't get a chance to read what it said on the back.
33-Hit-Combo
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Fisker?
Precisely! That was quick haha, thank you!
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
It would've been an absolutely ideal way to reveal a new sports car, actually. Not to advertise a fuckin CR-V...ugh.
YuriLowell
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Selling my e30 
I just cant drive all of these cars.
I just cant drive all of these cars.
TurtleSnatcher
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Am I crazy or this car not awesome?
It's awesome. Feel free to PM me or post here with questions. I custom ordered my MINI Coupe and have owned it since it launched in the US in early October. There are only like 1000 in the US right now.
I love it to death.
Selling my e30
I just cant drive all of these cars.
pics? Also what price are you looking to let it go for?
It's awesome. Feel free to PM me or post here with questions. I custom ordered my MINI Coupe and have owned it since it launched in the US in early October. There are only like 1000 in the US right now.
I love it to death.
I have a English coworker that traded in his MINI Cooper for a MINI coupe in BRG with a black top. Took him about a day to get his Union Jack front plate on it. It is a very handsome car.
YuriLowell
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ill link my CL ad since its the easiest.
Looking for around 3k.
http://charlottesville.craigslist.org/cto/2822865692.html
Its one of the strongest and best handling e30s ive driven.
Lagspike_exe
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Top Gear just posted their GT86 review and they gave it an incredible 19/20:
http://www.topgear.com/uk/toyota/gt-86/road-test/driven
http://www.topgear.com/uk/toyota/gt-86/road-test/driven
33-Hit-Combo
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So the estimated UK price is £25k? That's still a TON more expensive than the top of the range Clio 200... Though it isn't far off a 2.0l MX-5 which is probably a fairer comparison.
I do wish they'd release the pricing if it's hitting British shores in June.
I never read a review from them. Are they usually spot on?
Should be announced at the Chicago auto show Feb 8th or 9th.
Lagspike_exe
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They have a database of many of their reviews, so you can easily compare their opinnion with how you value a certain car.
My personal favorite review:A 1983 GMC Vandura
33-Hit-Combo
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Can't wait, should be able to blag a test drive/feign interest as long as it's a reasonable price. Realistically, I wouldn't purchase one because I'm too interested in performance and handling per £, and new cars simply can't keep up in that ratio.
So, BoobPhysics and I were having a conversation via PM and the topic of why I had to get rid of my 944 Turbo came up so I decided to give him that story including the full story of my adventure to pick up the car.
I hope that it can start a trend of all of us sharing some stories dealing with our love of all things automotive and help to build a stronger relationship with automotive-GAF.
Here is my story...
I couldn't rely on it as my DD once I got out of college and got a real job. My parents pretty much forced me to sell it but I was prepared to keep it even though it made no sense cause I loved the damn thing so much. I was living in an apartment complex and had next to no tools or no good way to work on it. Taking it to a specialty mechanic and paying a fortune would have been my only option and I wasn't going to have the money to fix it thanks to loans and other expenses. My parents said they would not help me with anything financially if I kept it. So I sold it and they co-signed on the loan for my Accord since my interest rate would have been terrible.
We found it on Ebay in 2001 about 8 months after my first car (Guards Red 88' 944 n/a) caught on fire while I was driving it. That one we found in South Carolina on a trip to visit my grandma and I rode back with my dad driving to Oklahoma when I was 15 years old. I learned to drive stick on that one.
My dad called the seller on Ebay the first day it was on the site and said that we are serious about the car and they went ahead and negotiated a price then the seller Fedex'd all the documentation and service records to us overnight including a recent inspection at a Porsche mechanic. My dad called the guy that worked on my n/a and he actually knew the mechanic that did the inspection on the Turbo.
Once everything checked out we agreed to buy it and we determined a day for me to fly out to Knoxville, TN to pick it up. So my dad drove me to the airport on a Saturday morning and I flew to Knoxville where the owner met me and we rode to his house in his 930 slant nose Turbo. What a car...
We drove on his private drive to his massive house (he owned a huge ATV dealership) and I see this absolutely beautiful Alpine White 944 Turbo sitting in the circle drive. He told me about how he bought it from his sister in Indiana about 10 years prior and told me of all the drives he went on and the good times he had with it and said that he hoped that I have just as much fun.
I ended up staying the night at his house and having a home cooked prime aged steak that his gorgeous blonde wife cooked up while we were going over the 944 and I went on my first drive with him riding shotgun. It was pretty much love at first shift. So, when I wake up the next morning and finish breakfast he hands me a Tennessee map that has a route highlighted for me to take through Tennessee then getting back to Arkansas and I40 for the trip home.
So, the road was amazing as was pretty much everything else about the whole experience. Ended up sleeping at a motel in West Memphis. I think the map is still at my parent's house somewhere. That was my first taste of driving a car with boost. That thing was pretty much flawless and seemed to be a complete steal at $8600. When I got back to Oklahoma there was a little over 68000 miles on the car and I walked in and gave a big hug to my dad and told him about my adventure. He knew exactly what he was doing and made sure that I would remember that trip forever. He told me about a year later that he had talked to the guy and planned pretty much everything that happened on my trip including the map route, steak dinner, picking me up in the 930 once he learned about it, etc...
Did not have one single problem with the car for 2 years and kept up the best I could with maintenance then it developed an intermittent issue where the car would go into limp mode and limit boost to 1.2 (down from 1.8) bar that took forever to figure out and from then on it was kind of a roller coaster ride with little things going wrong but oh so worth it. Made so many awesome memories in that car from leaving for college, road trips with friends, to driving every other weekend to Dallas to visit my girlfriend when we were out of school during the summer and just slowly cruising around campus with that wonderful exhaust burble. Turbo cars on a chilly evening are pretty special too.
We sold it June, 2008 for $7000 @ 121000 miles with an additional $6800 in shop receipts and the only mod that I had installed (Borla catback system).
I was not involved in the selling of the car and was not happy when my dad told me the guy they sold it to planned to turn it into a track car.
I hope that it can start a trend of all of us sharing some stories dealing with our love of all things automotive and help to build a stronger relationship with automotive-GAF.
Here is my story...
I couldn't rely on it as my DD once I got out of college and got a real job. My parents pretty much forced me to sell it but I was prepared to keep it even though it made no sense cause I loved the damn thing so much. I was living in an apartment complex and had next to no tools or no good way to work on it. Taking it to a specialty mechanic and paying a fortune would have been my only option and I wasn't going to have the money to fix it thanks to loans and other expenses. My parents said they would not help me with anything financially if I kept it. So I sold it and they co-signed on the loan for my Accord since my interest rate would have been terrible.
We found it on Ebay in 2001 about 8 months after my first car (Guards Red 88' 944 n/a) caught on fire while I was driving it. That one we found in South Carolina on a trip to visit my grandma and I rode back with my dad driving to Oklahoma when I was 15 years old. I learned to drive stick on that one.
My dad called the seller on Ebay the first day it was on the site and said that we are serious about the car and they went ahead and negotiated a price then the seller Fedex'd all the documentation and service records to us overnight including a recent inspection at a Porsche mechanic. My dad called the guy that worked on my n/a and he actually knew the mechanic that did the inspection on the Turbo.
Once everything checked out we agreed to buy it and we determined a day for me to fly out to Knoxville, TN to pick it up. So my dad drove me to the airport on a Saturday morning and I flew to Knoxville where the owner met me and we rode to his house in his 930 slant nose Turbo. What a car...
We drove on his private drive to his massive house (he owned a huge ATV dealership) and I see this absolutely beautiful Alpine White 944 Turbo sitting in the circle drive. He told me about how he bought it from his sister in Indiana about 10 years prior and told me of all the drives he went on and the good times he had with it and said that he hoped that I have just as much fun.
I ended up staying the night at his house and having a home cooked prime aged steak that his gorgeous blonde wife cooked up while we were going over the 944 and I went on my first drive with him riding shotgun. It was pretty much love at first shift. So, when I wake up the next morning and finish breakfast he hands me a Tennessee map that has a route highlighted for me to take through Tennessee then getting back to Arkansas and I40 for the trip home.
So, the road was amazing as was pretty much everything else about the whole experience. Ended up sleeping at a motel in West Memphis. I think the map is still at my parent's house somewhere. That was my first taste of driving a car with boost. That thing was pretty much flawless and seemed to be a complete steal at $8600. When I got back to Oklahoma there was a little over 68000 miles on the car and I walked in and gave a big hug to my dad and told him about my adventure. He knew exactly what he was doing and made sure that I would remember that trip forever. He told me about a year later that he had talked to the guy and planned pretty much everything that happened on my trip including the map route, steak dinner, picking me up in the 930 once he learned about it, etc...
Did not have one single problem with the car for 2 years and kept up the best I could with maintenance then it developed an intermittent issue where the car would go into limp mode and limit boost to 1.2 (down from 1.8) bar that took forever to figure out and from then on it was kind of a roller coaster ride with little things going wrong but oh so worth it. Made so many awesome memories in that car from leaving for college, road trips with friends, to driving every other weekend to Dallas to visit my girlfriend when we were out of school during the summer and just slowly cruising around campus with that wonderful exhaust burble. Turbo cars on a chilly evening are pretty special too.
We sold it June, 2008 for $7000 @ 121000 miles with an additional $6800 in shop receipts and the only mod that I had installed (Borla catback system).
I was not involved in the selling of the car and was not happy when my dad told me the guy they sold it to planned to turn it into a track car.
Suicide watch for haters.
wait, wat? i havne't been reading reviews of the thing, that goes against everything i know about sportscar tuning.
oic... keeping the mentality that makes the difference between drifting and racing.
33-Hit-Combo
Member
Slapping coin tyres on it seems a bit of a cop out from an engineering perspective. Average longitudinal and lateral speed
I'd be hoping to keep the car on the edge and not over (oppo lock) it on the road.
Death Dealer
Member
I've noticed lots of errors and inconsistencies with their reviews.
Lotus Elise
Cool 15/20 - "It's cool, but not as cool as an Exige."
Lotus Exige
Cool 14/20 - What ?
Ferrari 458 Italia
Performance 10/20 - WTF
Love the show, but I wouldn't take that website's reviews as gospel. It seems sloppy.
Fanboys fapping, watch for stray jizz.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Top Gear mag and show loved the RX8. They also liked the various Z4s BMW has thrown around at us over the past 10 years, meanwhile the only one worth liking was the Z4 M.
They have no say on what makes a sports car proper. Not that I do or anything...I'm just saying.
They have no say on what makes a sports car proper. Not that I do or anything...I'm just saying.
Lagspike_exe
Member
Some of the ratings in sub-categories are messed up for some reason, but the final grade reflects their opinnion on the car.
Yeah. Similarly, the regular Corvette gets 8/20 for practicality, but the ZR1 gets 15/20?
That was a great story Tyler, what a thing for your dad to set up and for the guy to go along with it. My dad would (still sort of does) go through cars quite often, anywhere from 6 months to a few years he'd sell whatever we had and get something else. In some cases it was a couple weeks. As a result we've had a lot of very awesome cars, a 60s Mercedes, 5 or 6 Alfas (same Milano twice and a GTV6), a 74 Ford Capri (2300gt) that was imported to the states by the couple he bought it from. They actually imported one for each of them.
Some of my earliest childhood memories, around age 3-5 is of his Alfa Romeo Berlina, believe a 69' with yellow fog lamps. He loved that car but it broke down so damn often. We still have a valve from it that looks similar to this.
Some of my earliest childhood memories, around age 3-5 is of his Alfa Romeo Berlina, believe a 69' with yellow fog lamps. He loved that car but it broke down so damn often. We still have a valve from it that looks similar to this.
Hey guys, here's a link to a free three issue digital subscription (through Zinio) to Car & Driver.
http://cdn.mercurymagazines.com/208-20803/index.html
You can use it on your PC, Mac or iPad.
EDIT: Disregard the title. It's three free issues.
http://cdn.mercurymagazines.com/208-20803/index.html
You can use it on your PC, Mac or iPad.
EDIT: Disregard the title. It's three free issues.
The site gave the rx8 a 14 out of 20. I wouldn't call that love bro.
about god damn time some shops started doing this swap. Wish I would have known it was going to be a reality a couple months back...
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...1575590261.566172.216624985260&type=1&theater
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...1575590261.566172.216624985260&type=1&theater
What engine is that and what is it going into?
BoobPhysics101
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From what I can tell, it's Audi's 5 cylinder turbo engine from the TT-RS and I'm going to guess people are now swapping them into GTI's and R32's.
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