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The Batman begins streaming on HBO Max April 18th

kurisu_1974

Member
Much too long, much too serious, didn't like the incel version of the Riddler and his army of 4chan goons, not a fan of the new Bruce Wayne. Liked that is was a call back to a more police / detective style of plot tho, but I feel this could have been much more in a shorter running time. Gotham City looked incredible. 6/10.
 

SJRB

Gold Member
Yes, during that hallway scene I was like come on, those bad guys sure can't aim. At all.
But the cowl is good, the army look of the suit on the other hand...

That hallway scene is ridiculous.

There's at least two henchmen at all times opening up full auto fire on Batman IN THE DARK while he's fistfighting other henchmen. The fact that Batman has an insanely strong body armor is goofy [comes up later in the movie too where he gets shot multiple times with a large caliber bullet from point-blank range], but the fact that they don't hit their teammates is nothing short of a miracle.

There's like 7 guys firing full automatic rifles at Batman point blank and he just shrugs it off. With that goofy BUM-BUMBUM-BUUUM music. It's just too far beyond the suspension of disbelief.

Looked cool though, and that was definitely the point.
 
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thefool

Member
I sadly haven't watched it on a theater like I wanted so yesterday I caved in and watched it at home.
Its like every other Matt Reeves film. Competent, well done movie that is also slightly unremarkable and lacks creativity.
I agree with the sentiment that is a good film within its genre (with refreshing attributes) but outside of it, it's a bit dull.
 
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TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I don't think it was good and I don't think it was bad.
It was just boring, Robert was fine as Batman and the guy who played Gordon was good too.
The rest was just mediocre.
Fight scenes was good but that all I can say was decent about it.

Also am I the only one that was expecting to see Darth Vader everytime they played the main theme?
 
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Warnen

Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
Didn’t care for it, almost put me to sleep like eternals…

2nd half picked up but at one point a paused it and almost shut it off.
 

RoboFu

One of the green rats
Wow I heard it had a lot of WOKE undertones but its not undertones at all and I am not talking about the bunch of black sctors in throw away roles. its the whole premise is cops bad, rich white people bad, white government currupt/bad, guns bad, non white people are helpless little lambs being pressured into being bad by bad white people.

Just take a look at the gang in the start of the movie. All these bad white guys are pressuring this scared black kid to be bad. Now go somewhere like NYC and tell me what the reality is. :messenger_tears_of_joy:. it's another propaganda movie and not even a good one.

The-Batman-White-Face-Gang.jpg
 
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sendit

Member
Wow I heard it had a lot of WOKE undertones but its not undertones at all and I am not talking about the bunch of black sctors in throw away roles. its the whole premise is cops bad, rich white people bad, white government currupt/bad, guns bad, non white people are helpless little lambs being pressured into being bad by bad white people.

Agreed. You just uncovered the truth about 99% of hollywood. You're the the detective we need, not the one we deserve.
 

GloveSlap

Member
I liked the movie, but there are definitely things about it that irked me. It was nice to get a proper detective Batman, but it came at the expense of his other abilities.

The damn Batman can't even climb up a ledge. Don't mind me Mr. Gribble, i'll just hang here while you slowly reload your shotgun and point it at my head.
 

Little Mac

Member
I liked Pattinson as Batman but thought he was a terrible Bruce Wayne. I liked the portrayals of Gordon, Riddler, and the Penguin. Catwoman was okay.
One of my biggest complaints was how Batman was in plain sight like 70% of the movie. Like the whole ninja ghost "I live in the shadows" aspect of his character was thrown out the window. He was always a feared urban legend to the criminal underworld ... but Battinson is walking around in broad daylight, walking into crowded rooms, ect ... it was just strange to me. There wasn't enough action. I liked the detective aspect of the movie though but it dragged on too long.

Also I like Nirvana but the reoccuring Something in the Way song was a misfire and made an already long movie feel longer.

7/10 ...
 
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I love how the villains are handled,cant wait to see who appears in the sequel like two face,dr freeze,clay face,ventriloquist,or professor pyg.
 

thefool

Member
Wow I heard it had a lot of WOKE undertones but its not undertones at all and I am not talking about the bunch of black sctors in throw away roles. its the whole premise is cops bad, rich white people bad, white government currupt/bad, guns bad, non white people are helpless little lambs being pressured into being bad by bad white people.

Just take a look at the gang in the start of the movie. All these bad white guys and pressuring this scared black kid to be bad. Now go somewhere like NYC and tell me what the reality is. :messenger_tears_of_joy:. it's another proganda movie and not even a good one.

The-Batman-White-Face-Gang.jpg

Yeah, the film is unabashedly propagandist. The juxtapose with the black politician and the black cop as the unblemished figures is hilarious. Even Selina declares the sentiment, like an hammer to the head, in case the audience missed it.

Batman is actually a really good setting to vilify the white establishment as Gotham is in fact a cesspool of corruption but its the contrast that make it funny because the messaging is so obvious and unsubtle.

But in its dullness, it doesn't even go all the way, it throws mud against Thomas Wayne but a couple of minutes later it sorta gives the audience bait that perhaps he was in fact good.
 
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YCoCg

Member
I liked it, it felt like a combination of TAS and the Detective Comics at times, liked how the fighting style, especially group fights, used stuff from the Arkham games which alone is a big improvement over other films. It feels like some people here though are desperate to call it woke and throw a word fit about it being anti-white or some shit, good grief, can't you enjoy anything?
 
- The muzzle flashes is way overblown. You expect to hit a moving target in the head in a pitch black dark hallway? fucking hell 🤣🤣🤣

- The cowl = Its an origin story lol. Nothing is perfect. The movie even shows him fucking himself up in a wingsuit landing. Christ 🤣
What are you talking about? The hallway is very narrow, all the goons had to do was shoot at head-level and it’s a wrap. That’s not even taking into account that one of them had night vision. As for the cowl, I already said it’s an origin story, but even for an origin story it’s cheap and crap.
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Yes, during that hallway scene I was like come on, those bad guys sure can't aim. At all.
But the cowl is good, the army look of the suit on the other hand...
They were basically spraying his body as he casually walks towards them. Raise the gun higher and spray and pray, and hopefully one shot will hit him in the mouth... wait, that sounds wrong. But the cowl is still shit though.
 

FunkMiller

Member
Wow I heard it had a lot of WOKE undertones but its not undertones at all and I am not talking about the bunch of black sctors in throw away roles. its the whole premise is cops bad, rich white people bad, white government currupt/bad, guns bad, non white people are helpless little lambs being pressured into being bad by bad white people.

Just take a look at the gang in the start of the movie. All these bad white guys are pressuring this scared black kid to be bad. Now go somewhere like NYC and tell me what the reality is. :messenger_tears_of_joy:. it's another propaganda movie and not even a good one.

The-Batman-White-Face-Gang.jpg

You’re absolutely right. This movie is just woke propaganda. What with the main characters being a heroic, incredibly rich, handsome white man.

Fuck me, some of you need to go outside and take a breath of fresh air.
 
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Hinedorf

Banned
I really enjoyed the whole detective-aspect to the movie, it did feel way too long though. To me the disappointment is we're going right back to the Joker rather than explore any other characters...just a shame at this point.

Not as good as the Bale movies IMO but better than all others
 

FunkMiller

Member
Who everyone hates, even cat woman says as such to hammer it home.

Oh yes, mate. The absolute thing to take away from this movie is how hated Batman is. What with that whole touching moment when he rescues a woman from the flood, and she holds out a grateful hand to him. With that scene, Reeves clearly wants you to go away from the film understanding that everyone hates Bruce.

Yep. That's it. Everybody hates Batman. Fucking Batman.

...honest to god, stop looking for fucking offence in everything you see.
 
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Neolombax

Member
I liked the movie, I liked the tone of it, I liked the Riddler, my major gripe was the pacing. It can be too slow at times, and the runtime can be much shorter. I'd argue that the last 30mins were not necessary.
 

RoboFu

One of the green rats
Oh yes, mate. The absolute thing to take away from this movie is how hated Batman is. What with that whole touching moment when he rescues a woman from the flood, and she holds out a grateful hand to him. With that scene, Reeves clearly wants you to go away from the film understanding that everyone hates Bruce.

Yep. That's it. Everybody hates Batman. Fucking Batman.

...honest to god, stop looking for fucking offence in everything you see.
Yes because Batman is all about giving up fighting criminals to help hold peoples hands as they get air lifted out.
 

TylerD

Member
Wow I heard it had a lot of WOKE undertones but its not undertones at all and I am not talking about the bunch of black sctors in throw away roles. its the whole premise is cops bad, rich white people bad, white government currupt/bad, guns bad, non white people are helpless little lambs being pressured into being bad by bad white people.

Just take a look at the gang in the start of the movie. All these bad white guys are pressuring this scared black kid to be bad. Now go somewhere like NYC and tell me what the reality is. :messenger_tears_of_joy:. it's another propaganda movie and not even a good one.

The-Batman-White-Face-Gang.jpg
Go back and re-watch the scene and look at the biggest guy in the gang who happens to be black as well you dolt. I'm so glad I don't watch content looking for perceived "wokeness" to be offended by to go whine about it to the internet.
 
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DragoonKain

Neighbours from Hell
I enjoyed it. I don’t think one scene in the entire movie took placing during the day. Or it didn’t feel like it every scene was super dark. I liked how not super hero-y it was. The only thing I felt somewhat disappointed in was when the plot is revealed at the end.
the Riddler plotted on the dark web with a bunch of randos… really? How did he know they wouldn’t just go to the police? Also I thought in general the plot was kinda lame and not all that interesting. Run if the mill terror plot once the riddles were all solved.
 

FunkMiller

Member
Yes because Batman is all about giving up fighting criminals to help hold peoples hands as they get air lifted out.

Big Zack Snyder fan, are you?

…yes, Batman is… and should be… just as much about helping people in need, as he is about punching criminals. If you think anything else, you have no idea what the character actually is, and probably think Batfleck being a murdering idiot was the best Batman evah!
 

mcjmetroid

Member
I feel like hardcore fans of Batman or Batman comic book fans LOVED this movie but everyone else
meh.

I'm in the meh camp. I appreciate the different direction like some have said but it just wasn't good enough I'm afraid for me.
 

SJRB

Gold Member
Yes because Batman is all about giving up fighting criminals to help hold peoples hands as they get air lifted out.

What the-

Yes, that's exactly what Batman is all about. That's literally his character arc in the movie - he goes from exacting vengeance on criminals to satisfy his own rage to being a symbol of hope for the people while instilling fear into criminals.

Come on now.
 

FunkMiller

Member
What the-

Yes, that's exactly what Batman is all about. That's literally his character arc in the movie - he goes from exacting vengeance on criminals to satisfy his own rage to being a symbol of hope for the people while instilling fear into criminals.

Come on now.

Stop trying. Some snowflakes are determined to read things into movies and tv that offend them, no matter what the actual evidence is. Happens on both political wings, and is equally pathetic.

Whining about woke Batman = whining about Cyberpunk dicks.
 
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Yes because Batman is all about giving up fighting criminals to help hold peoples hands as they get air lifted out.

I mean…
Did you watch the movie? The overarching theme is Batman saying that he thinks things aren’t getting better. He come to realize how his quest for “vengeance” isn’t having a large impact except on petty crimes.
I think the issue is that people like yourself just don’t agree with issues being systemic and to deal with them you can’t just beat up petty thugs like in the opening scene.
 

clarky

Gold Member
Just Finished this (again).
its an all timer for me, the stuff that i disliked first time round made so much more sense on a second viewing.

The cinematography, score , acting all top notch. like others have said maybe the story lacks a little gravitas but damn near close to a perfect batman movie imo.
 
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Mossybrew

Banned
Like others have said, it was just too long. By the end setpiece, which was ridiculous in its own way, I was just worn out. You could easily cut 20 minutes out and have a more focused experience.

Anyway, loved the overall vibe and Pattinson made a great broody Batman.
 

20cent

Banned
Remember Batman Begins?
Remember Se7en?
Remember Zodiac?
Remember Nirvana?

Yeah I do, and they were all better.

The movie is "okay", same as the latest Spiderman.
If both are best entries of their respective license for you, good news, the upcoming best thing is always around the corner.
 

TheMan

Member
It was alright? I was kind of bored at time, took a couple of breaks to play forza. It was interesting to see a less powerful batman. That said , the mopier, traumatized bruce wayne counterpart was not appealing. Perhaps more realistic I suppose. Probably wouldn't bother to watch this one again.
 

GeorgioCostanzaX

Gold Member
I sadly haven't watched it on a theater like I wanted so yesterday I caved in and watched it at home.
Its like every other Matt Reeves film. Competent, well done movie that is also slightly unremarkable and lacks creativity.
I agree with the sentiment that is a good film within its genre (with refreshing attributes) but outside of it, it's a bit dull.

It’s better than Batman Forever and Batman and Robin but it’s just dull compared to TDK Trilogy and Batman 89 and Returns. The suit is like something you see at a gun range only with a cape: like if it’s that easy to be Batman why hasn’t someone IRL with guns gone vigilante yet?
 
Would we miss something if Catwoman was completely out of the movie? I really don't think so... All her scenes felt like movie filler. You could easily replace her by whatever you'd like to.
 
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