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[Trilobit]

Similar to how Bruce improvised his "burglar" suit in Begins, this is Selina's proto-Catwoman look. It's handmade and functional while still having the little flourishes (the "ears) that remind you that it's still Catwoman. And honestly that mask is more effective than some simple goggles or whatever that only cover a quarter of her face.

The only way it could have been more ridiculous was if the mask went right under her nose like a long moustache. I understand the Year One aesthetic, but wow is it bad!

 

[sircaw]

That mask sucks donkey balls, come on.

 

[kondorBonk]

It's nothing like Nolan's movies. Batman narrates the entire movie out of his detective journal like in the comics.

I haven't seen it so I can only speculate. Inner dialogue is a nice addition. I wouldn't say completely absent from previous movies either but I always do prefer the detective angle more than the super hero.
For it to be something that changes it to "nothing like Nolans movies" it would have to be the cornerstone of the movie.

I would say from the trailer that was released, it's heavily insprired by tone, cinematography, and lighting. Trailers do this by design (look at the first Suicide Squad). They are more of a marketing tool so you could be 100% correct. What we've seen in trailers so far though... very much trying to seem like Nolan.

 

[Stuart360]

This is why i have always taken much more to DC movies than Marvel movies, even though Marvel movies are viewed as better quality. Its the tone of most DC movies, they always seem more serious, dark, and adult oriented compared to the 'hey hows it going Cap?' comic style of Marvel.

I think this looks great. Not keen on Catwoman, or the Batmobile, but the film overall looks fantastic imo.

 

[Deleted member 1159]

This is why i have always taken much more to DC movies than Marvel movies, even though Marvel movies are viewed as better quality. Its the tone of most DC movies, they always seem more serious, dark, and adult oriented compared to the 'hey hows it going Cap?' comic style of Marvel.

I think this looks great. Not keen on Catwoman, or the Batmobile, but the film overall looks fantastic imo.

I think, for me, Batman always comes off as something more plausible than other comic book movies (including other DC movies). The idea of a rich vigilante who got gud at ninja stuff seems more grounded in reality and much more fun than magical pew pew stuff. I don't really care for super hero movies in general, but I'll always show up for Batman.

 

[Stuart360]

I think, for me, Batman always comes off as something more plausible than other comic book movies (including other DC movies). The idea of a rich vigilante who got gud at ninja stuff seems more grounded in reality and much more fun than magical pew pew stuff. I don't really care for super hero movies in general, but I'll always show up for Batman.

Oh yeah Batman has always been my fave. He's just grounded and interesting. Same with Batman villains really, i find a lot of them really interesting and iconic.

 

[sircaw]

Oh yeah Batman has always been my fave. He's just grounded and interesting. Same with Batman villains really, i find a lot of them really interesting and iconic.

Just admit it, your favorite is Penguin, cos you look like him.

Spoiler: The truth

Danny DeVito edition

 

[Stuart360]

Just admit it, your favorite is Penguin, cos you look like him.

Spoiler: The truth

Danny DeVito edition

I have put a bit of weight on due to Covid. I'm more like Bane though.

 

[sircaw]

I have put a bit of weight on due to Covid. I'm more like Bane though.

That Xmas turkey never stood a chance.

 

[arkhamguy123]

People really see shots

Looks like they decided Batman has to feel like Christopher Nolan's movies. They are a massive success so I guess that will be the flavor for a while.
I'm sure it will be good regardless. Matt Reeves is a good director but there is something fun about the drastically different style in Batman.

Batman 66- Goofy/Campy
Batman/Batman Returns- Tim Burton took it more seriously and created a super stylized lost in time Gotham that had 50s style gangsters and more modern tech.
Batman Forever/ Batman Robin / - Joel Schumachers flamboyant almost musical style sets and wardrobe along with returning some goofier tones.
Christopher Nolans Batman Trilogy- What if Batman existed in our world. Modern crime/mafia.

So far The Batman seems to have a lot of the same going on with Nolan, especially the lighting. It's safe and wont have audiences complain about a diretion change.
Thing is that's why I like comics. There are different versions of these characters, artists, and writers. Every "adventure" comes off unique.

One thing is for certain, sticking to one style makes connected properties much easier. Same reason a lot of the Marvel movies feel cookie cutter unless a director can work within those limitations (Thor Ragnarok).
Again, Matt Reeves is a great director so hopefully I'm wrong.

Whats snyders batman to you?

 

[Trilobit]

I'm a bit disappointed that Gotham still lacks that art deco/noir feel that Burton's movies had. I wouldn't need something so stylistic, but maybe go half way or a third of the way.

 

[kondorBonk]

People really see shots

Whats snyders batman to you?

Huh, good call. Completely forgot about it.

Never really had a solo movie to explore and the inspiration from the Dark Knight Returns is really just for a few money shots, not like the character in those at all. He's definitely unique in that list, I don't think it's trying very hard to be Nolans at all.

I would say (IMO) Snyderverse Batman= Action Hero Batman. More "Super Hero" than the others which often happens when that character teams up while secondary exists as a functional Narative device much like a Tony Stark.

 

[FunkMiller]

I think, for me, Batman always comes off as something more plausible than other comic book movies (including other DC movies). The idea of a rich vigilante who got gud at ninja stuff seems more grounded in reality and much more fun than magical pew pew stuff. I don't really care for super hero movies in general, but I'll always show up for Batman.

Let's be honest about it, superheroes are kid's fantasy figures, and are pretty damn silly and childish when you get right down to it. Batman can be equally silly, but at least the character allows for more adult themed stories and characterisations. You can do 'adult' Batman. You can't do 'adult' Spider-man.

 

[FunkMiller]

Whats snyders batman to you?

Fucking terrible

 

[arkhamguy123]

Let's be honest about it, superheroes are kid's fantasy figures, and are pretty damn silly and childish when you get right down to it. Batman can be equally silly, but at least the character allows for more adult themed stories and characterisations. You can do 'adult' Batman. You can't do 'adult' Spider-man.

I see this from time to tune and respectfully disagree. I think it's a little reductive. The genesis of superheroes, superman was just two jewish kids making a cool character. To my knowledge, it wasn't targeted at infants. I think they, demonstrably, appeal to all ages. The early Batman comics had propaganda for kids about obeying authority and staying in school, but that was more on the publisher, the writers had batman killing motherfuckers and kicking them into a sword to be violently impaled. (Yeah that really happened in one of the earlier issues lol)

Of course the stories and subject matter of the early stories wouldn't stand up to any great literature at the time but I think calling them mere "kid's fantasy figures" is off the mark. They can inspire or speak to anyone of any demographic or age group. It's part of their inherent appeal. Just my opinion. I'd postulate further to say you'd be hard pressed to not be able to boil down any fiction (or even sometimes non fiction for that matter) as silly and childish if you really wanna be cynical and reductive. I've heard takes calling the matrix juvenile. And terminator. I disagree with these assertions but see where they're coming from. I think it's just the nature of things that are made up and larger than life.

 

[arkhamguy123]

Fucking terrible

I liked him in the Snyder cut and loved all the visceral action in BvS. I think he'll stand as a very unique batman in cinema. And I think his suit looked so badass. Brilliant debut of the black and gray on the big screen.

I grew up with Batman, I own so many of his comics I used to hide them in high school when I'd have a girl over for the first time haha. And my collection has tripled since then. Ive seen every show all the way through, watched all the movies many times over. I love almost all takes and I just can't bring myself to completely defame Zack's Batman for some reason. It's a very... interesting take to me. I feel like Zack had good ideas and intentions but didn't quite execute them perfectly.

 

[FunkMiller]

I see this from time to tune and respectfully disagree. I think it's a little reductive. The genesis of superheroes, superman was just two jewish kids making a cool character. To my knowledge, it wasn't targeted at infants. I think they, demonstrably, appeal to all ages. The early Batman comics had propaganda for kids about obeying authority and staying in school, but that was more on the publisher, the writers had batman killing motherfuckers and kicking them into a sword to be violently impaled. (Yeah that really happened in one of the earlier issues lol)

Of course the stories and subject matter of the early stories wouldn't stand up to any great literature at the time but I think calling them mere "kid's fantasy figures" is off the mark. They can inspire or speak to anyone of any demographic or age group. It's part of their inherent appeal. Just my opinion. I'd postulate further to say you'd be hard pressed to not be able to boil down any fiction (or even sometimes non fiction for that matter) as silly and childish if you really wanna be cynical and reductive. I've heard takes calling the matrix juvenile. And terminator. I disagree with these assertions but see where they're coming from. I think it's just the nature of things that are made up and larger than life.

Possibly I was being a bit unfair with my choice of language. What I meant to say was that by and large, superheroes are wish fulfilment fantasy figures for children, wherein it's possible to tell mature and interesting stories, but always with one eye on the fact these characters are impossible, and therefore there will always be an inability to tell truly grounded, mature stories that reflect human frailties, failings and problems. Ultimately, you give someone a superpower of any kind, and you immediately hamstring the character's relatability. Batman is different because he's human, which is why there's such a massive variation in the depictions of the character down through the years, and why Batman stories can talk about themes that would otherwise ring hollow with another comic book superhero who can stick to walls or fly.

 

[FunkMiller]

I liked him in the Snyder cut and loved all the visceral action in BvS. I think he'll stand as a very unique batman in cinema. And I think his suit looked so badass. Brilliant debut of the black and gray on the big screen.

I grew up with Batman, I own so many of his comics I used to hide them in high school when I'd have a girl over for the first time haha. And my collection has tripled since then. Ive seen every show all the way through, watched all the movies many times over. I love almost all takes and I just can't bring myself to completely defame Zack's Batman for some reason. It's a very... interesting take to me. I feel like Zack had good ideas and intentions but didn't quite execute them perfectly.

Snyder had no interest in adapting Batman. He just wanted to adapt Frank Miller's Batman. And sadly, he even did very poorly at that, misunderstanding so much of what Miller was trying to depict.

Frustrating really. With a few tweaks, and a more talented filmmaker, Affleck's Batman could have been great. Sadly, as it stands, it s massive misfire.

 

[arkhamguy123]

Possibly I was being a bit unfair with my choice of language. What I meant to say was that by and large, superheroes are wish fulfilment fantasy figures for children, wherein it's possible to tell mature and interesting stories, but always with one eye on the fact these characters are impossible, and therefore there will always be an inability to tell truly grounded, mature stories that reflect human frailties, failings and problems. Ultimately, you give someone a superpower of any kind, and you immediately hamstring the character's relatability. Batman is different because he's human, which is why there's such a massive variation in the depictions of the character down through the years, and why Batman stories can talk about themes that would otherwise ring hollow with another comic book superhero who can stick to walls or fly.

We agree completely!

 

[arkhamguy123]

Snyder had no interest in adapting Batman. He just wanted to adapt Frank Miller's Batman. And sadly, he even did very poorly at that, misunderstanding so much of what Miller was trying to depict.

Frustrating really. With a few tweaks, and a more talented filmmaker, Affleck's Batman could have been great. Sadly, as it stands, it s massive misfire.

Its so funny to me because if you read dark knight returns, and then watch BvS. The actual character of batman is very, very different. DKR Batman is thoughtful and methodical. He has this old man seasoned veteran thing. And Ben Affleck is great in the film but is kinda just... there? It's hard to explain. As someone above me put it, he's kind of just action hero man? Perhaps its unfair because the inner monologue of the comic allows for more depth but even without that just how he interacts with thugs, the police, Selina, gordon, he's just overall much more talkative and human.

Then I remember Zack cut a "Heat" scene between Batman and Superman because he thought they looked too silly talking in their suits :/

 

[arkhamguy123]

Possibly I was being a bit unfair with my choice of language. What I meant to say was that by and large, superheroes are wish fulfilment fantasy figures for children, wherein it's possible to tell mature and interesting stories, but always with one eye on the fact these characters are impossible, and therefore there will always be an inability to tell truly grounded, mature stories that reflect human frailties, failings and problems. Ultimately, you give someone a superpower of any kind, and you immediately hamstring the character's relatability. Batman is different because he's human, which is why there's such a massive variation in the depictions of the character down through the years, and why Batman stories can talk about themes that would otherwise ring hollow with another comic book superhero who can stick to walls or fly.

I'd add that you're on the money here because, during those aforementioned high school and middle school times I'd also collect Aquaman, The Flash, Green Lantern, a metric fuck ton of Superman, and Spiderman. And as I got older batman is kind of just the last man standing. Like, the only bastion left of superheroes I can still get into. I'm not saying I grew out of these characters, I still love all these guys, and people of all age groups like them as well, I guess it's just, for me personally I experienced a phenomenon like you described as I got older and now I only really care about Batman.

It's weird I have like a mental block on the others, I just can't get into hulk, Wonder Woman, Spiderman, you name it. Saw no way home, meh. Was alright. (MCU movies epitomize the whole "superheroes for children" thing though. Laughable filmmaking) and played Spiderman ps4. Again, just meh. It's alright. I'd rather go replay to Arkham games. I just can't get hyped for anyone except Batman these days lol. I dunno man.

 

[Deleted member 1159]

Maybe what I like is the super hero that has to work to get what he has…even Batman with all his wealth still has to train and git gud. Goku is sort of a Mary Sue, but everyone in the universe can harness their ki and become powerful. Jedi have all sorts of buffs but aren’t infallible and have to spend years honing their abilities. All of that seems much more compelling than Superman or mutants or whatever else.

Anyway, Batman is cool. Good time of the year to watch the Burton movies

 

[FunkMiller]

Maybe what I like is the super hero that has to work to get what he has…even Batman with all his wealth still has to train and git gud.

Fundamentally, this is one of the cornerstones of Batman’s appeal. To do what he does takes effort. Dedication. Training. Commitment. He wasn’t just gifted an impossible series of powers.

Yes, he’s super rich... and that allows him to dress up like a bat, and have all those gadgets… but it’s his determination and strength of character that make him a hero. He’d be out there fighting crime even if he was penniless.

I always gravitated towards Batman when I was a kid because of this. The rest just seemed a bit silly… getting to be heroes because they were born with magic powers, or gifted them somehow.

Batman stays with you even into adulthood because even when you strip the costume, the tech, the money, and all the other comic book stuff away, you still have an incredibly good role model at the character’s core.

 

[plushyp]

The problem with doing Zero Year is that it’ll feel too similar to Cataclysm and No Man’s Land… which Nolan has already riffed on in TDKR.

Also, stupid to establish a whole new Batman/Gotham and then ostensibly tear it all down almost straight away.

Which is pretty much the impression I got from the first trailer. And I was fine with it because it looked and felt like a different take on it. The kid was angrier, without restraint, destructive but curious. A kid.

I have a theory that with this trilogy Matt Reeves wants to build up Bruce/Batman by making him understand how his unhinged behaviour is not working by losing very badly to The Riddler. Instead of making a traditional arc where the second film in the trilogy is where the hero suffers a crushing defeat or a pyrrhic victory, here Reeves is showing how this current approach by Batman costs him dearly with his hubris causing the destruction of Gotham. Adding to this is the strained relationship Bruce and Alfred have in this universe as well as that scene where even Gordon is angry with Batman - both are things that haven't really been shown in the previous films. I have a feeling all this is also going to contribute towards a bigger focus on the cerebral/detective side of Batman.

Again, all just speculation from my side.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Fundamentally, this is one of the cornerstones of Batman’s appeal. To do what he does takes effort. Dedication. Training. Commitment. He wasn’t just gifted an impossible series of powers.

Yes, he’s super rich... and that allows him to dress up like a bat, and have all those gadgets… but it’s his determination and strength of character that make him a hero. He’d be out there fighting crime even if he was penniless.

I always gravitated towards Batman when I was a kid because of this. The rest just seemed a bit silly… getting to be heroes because they were born with magic powers, or gifted them somehow.

Batman stays with you even into adulthood because even when you strip the costume, the tech, the money, and all the other comic book stuff away, you still have an incredibly good role model at the character’s core.

A billionaire who beats the shit out of poor people is a good role model?

 

[Deleted member 1159]

A billionaire who beats the shit out of poor people is a good role model?

But he doesn’t kill them

 

[OmegaSupreme]

But he doesn’t kill them

He really should kill some of them. I know he can't because then you don't have a story but let's not pretend he's a good guy or any kind of role model. He absolutely should kill these mass murdering super psychopaths he deals with.

 

[FunkMiller]

A billionaire who beats the shit out of poor people is a good role model?

Criminals. I don’t remember him wailing on someone shopping in the local KMart.

Though that would be hilarious.

 

[SJRB]

A billionaire who beats the shit out of poor people is a good role model?

Will someone think of the poor people?

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Will someone think of the poor people?

He could use his billions to lift these people out of poverty and keep them away from a life of crime. Come on. This isn't an original critique of Batman. He's an asshole. If he wasn't he'd absolutely murder the Joker. It's necessary for him to be like this purely to keep selling comics. No one is going to read a comic about a charitable billionaire helping the citizens of his city by providing jobs and low-income housing lol.

 

[plushyp]

No one is going to read a comic about a charitable billionaire helping the citizens of his city by providing jobs and low-income housing lol.

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[SJRB]

He could use his billions to lift these people out of poverty and keep them away from a life of crime. Come on. This isn't an original critique of Batman. He's an asshole. If he wasn't he'd absolutely murder the Joker. It's necessary for him to be like this purely to keep selling comics. No one is going to read a comic about a charitable billionaire helping the citizens of his city by providing jobs and low-income housing lol.

O please, let's not go there okay? Dunking real-world logic or zeitgeist on comic book principles is the dumbest fucking thing.

"If Bruce Wayne is so rich, why are there still poor people?"
"Why hasn't Tony Stark solved world hunger?"
"If Superman is so super, why are there still wars?"

 

[Dr_Salt]

I know this movie has a great director and cast but I have a bad feeling about it.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

O please, let's not go there okay? Dunking real-world logic or zeitgeist on comic book principles is the dumbest fucking thing.

"If Bruce Wayne is so rich, why are there still poor people?"
"Why hasn't Tony Stark solved world hunger?"
"If Superman is so super, why are there still wars?"

People in this thread are literally speaking about how "realistic" Batman is so its appropriate. You have to suspend just as much disbelief for him as any other comic book hero. Movie will be fine I'm sure but it's not realistic in any sense.

 

[GeekyDad]

Fundamentally, this is one of the cornerstones of Batman’s appeal. To do what he does takes effort. Dedication. Training. Commitment. He wasn’t just gifted an impossible series of powers.

Yes, he’s super rich... and that allows him to dress up like a bat, and have all those gadgets… but it’s his determination and strength of character that make him a hero. He’d be out there fighting crime even if he was penniless.

I always gravitated towards Batman when I was a kid because of this. The rest just seemed a bit silly… getting to be heroes because they were born with magic powers, or gifted them somehow.

Batman stays with you even into adulthood because even when you strip the costume, the tech, the money, and all the other comic book stuff away, you still have an incredibly good role model at the character’s core.

A billionaire who beats the shit out of poor people is a good role model?

But he doesn’t kill them

He really should kill some of them. I know he can't because then you don't have a story but let's not pretend he's a good guy or any kind of role model. He absolutely should kill these mass murdering super psychopaths he deals with.

Criminals. I don’t remember him wailing on someone shopping in the local KMart.

Though that would be hilarious.

Will someone think of the poor people?

He could use his billions to lift these people out of poverty and keep them away from a life of crime. Come on. This isn't an original critique of Batman. He's an asshole. If he wasn't he'd absolutely murder the Joker. It's necessary for him to be like this purely to keep selling comics. No one is going to read a comic about a charitable billionaire helping the citizens of his city by providing jobs and low-income housing lol.

O please, let's not go there okay? Dunking real-world logic or zeitgeist on comic book principles is the dumbest fucking thing.

"If Bruce Wayne is so rich, why are there still poor people?"
"Why hasn't Tony Stark solved world hunger?"
"If Superman is so super, why are there still wars?"

People in this thread are literally speaking about how "realistic" Batman is so its appropriate. You have to suspend just as much disbelief for him as any other comic book hero. Movie will be fine I'm sure but it's not realistic in any sense.

 

[FunkMiller]

People in this thread are literally speaking about how "realistic" Batman is so its appropriate. You have to suspend just as much disbelief for him as any other comic book hero. Movie will be fine I'm sure but it's not realistic in any sense.

Batman isn’t in any way realistic. No one’s said that at all. But it’s perfectly valid to point out that within comic book fiction, he’s more plausible and relatable than someone who can fly and shoot lasers out of their eyes, or someone who sticks to walls.

It sounds like you don’t even like the character, so why are you even in here talking about him?

Also, Bruce Wayne has given millions to Gotham worthy causes across the history of the character, so you‘re wrong about that too.

 

[kunonabi]

I know this movie has a great director and cast but I have a bad feeling about it.

I'm still trying to figure out whose bright idea it was to cast Dano as the Riddler than cover his face up with a damn gas mask. It's almost as bad as casting Dafoe as the Green Goblin than sticking that ridiculous helmet on him.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Batman isn’t in any way realistic. No one’s said that at all. But it’s perfectly valid to point out that within comic book fiction, he’s more plausible and relatable than someone who can fly and shoot lasers out of their eyes, or someone who sticks to walls.

It sounds like you don’t even like the character, so why are you even in here talking about him?

Also, Bruce Wayne has given millions to Gotham worthy causes across the history of the character, so you‘re wrong about that too.

Superman is an alien. Perfectly plausible that an alien could have physical abilities far exceeding our own. Same thing with a character like thor.

He's given away millions? Awesome. Keep that up. Maybe get therapy too.

"He's a great fighter and in great shape!" (parprasing) La de fucking da. There are literally millions of people who can fight and are in great shape. That's not a special accomplishment. You probably know an mma douchebag.

I dont like the character. He's literally one of the worst superhero's. I'm also able to suspend disbelief and enjoy a fantasy. Just like all the Batman movies are.

 

[FunkMiller]

Superman is an alien. Perfectly plausible that an alien could have physical abilities far exceeding our own. Same thing with a character like thor.

He's given away millions? Awesome. Keep that up. Maybe get therapy too.

"He's a great fighter and in great shape!" (parprasing) La de fucking da. There are literally millions of people who can fight and are in great shape. That's not a special accomplishment. You probably know an mma douchebag.

I dont like the character. He's literally one of the worst superhero's. I'm also able to suspend disbelief and enjoy a fantasy. Just like all the Batman movies are.

Why are you even contributing to this thread, if you can’t stand the character?

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Why are you even contributing to this thread, if you can’t stand the character?

I started off by talking about Patton being in shape despite saying he wouldn't be and that it looked good visually. I'll watch it. I enjoy cape shit. Then I called out your bs about Batman being a role model and here we are. Triggered city.

 

[FunkMiller]

I started off by talking about Patton being in shape despite saying he wouldn't be and that it looked good visually. I'll watch it. I enjoy cape shit. Then I called out your bs about Batman being a role model and here we are. Triggered city.

What a very strange, sad little person you are. Off you pop into Ignoresville…. because life really is too short for Batman haters.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

What a very strange, sad little person you are. Off you pop into Ignoresville…. because life really is too short for Batman haters.

I'm sorry your're bothered so much by my most basic of factual criticism of a silly fictional character. I thought you were better.

 

[ManaByte]

Why are you even contributing to this thread, if you can’t stand the character?

Same reason people who didn't actually watch Spider-Man: No Way Home participated in the spoiler thread just because they watched a YouTube summary.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

TIL that people take Batman very seriously.

 

[arkhamguy123]

I'm sorry your're bothered so much by my most basic of factual criticism of a silly fictional character. I thought you were better.

The hell man? Why the snark? Let people be passionate about what they want to be passionate about. What does turning your nose up at them serve? I get wanting to have the last word in an argument but you're on a video game forum. Any high ground is already lost to look down on other peoples interest and hobbies.

 

[arkhamguy123]

TIL that people take Batman very seriously.

Sure? Let them live their lives and you live yours. You came into a forum about a trailer for this "silly fictional character" and engaged in some extended discussion about him. If you're so above it you don't have to engage with it.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Sure? Let them live their lives and you live yours. You came into a forum about a trailer for this "silly fictional character" and engaged in some extended discussion about him. If you're so above it you don't have to engage with it.

Must discussion of something always be positive? I disagreed with something that was said and stated my case. He disagreed and he stated his case. I'm done with it unless engaged further.

 

[arkhamguy123]

Must discussion of something always be positive? I disagreed with something that was said and stated my case. Some disagreed and they stated their case. I'm done with it unless engaged further.

Okay then just do that man. You tried to belittle the other person and the character of batman for seemingly no reason. It came across malicious and strange. Plenty of people in here were negative about it without resorting to that.

 

[carlosrox]

I think this looks great! First trailer was awesome too.

 

[Spaceman292]

TIL that people take Batman very seriously.

ikr people liking things is dumb everyone should be like us and not like anything that's cool