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The Black Culture Thread |OT8| Hands Up, Don't Shoot
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"just treat people how you want to be treated that's good enough for me"
I can understand trying to step away from the term African American to something more inclusive, but what gets me is calling yourself a colorless person.
Like, okay she is american. I consider myself american, and probably most people in this thread, but why disassociate yourself from your skin color? Sure she doesn't see herself as black, but it won't stop others from seeing her as that and it surely won't take away all the problems she'll still face as a black actress. Like oldschool says, you still keep all the negatives of being black.
Still, if her comments are her just not being able to speak for herself properly, then I don't have all that much of a problem since I'm mostly getting caught up in a phrase. My biggest problem is what ishi mentions:
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xiceman191
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She trying to say she doesn't have that nappy hair associated with black people. She got dat "good" hair.
Prototype Viktor
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and you guys are being too hard on Raven man. I mean she probably realized she was gay/bi from all the time around Holly Robinson Peete and Eddie Murphey in his transsexual years. (1997 when she was 12, Hanging with Mr Cooper ended and Dr Doolittle was starting filming)
Or her time with teh Cheetah Girls.
WrassleGAF figured that out a long, long time ago
MikeBreezy92
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I honestly find it weird people seek individuality yet want everyone to come together at the same time. Can't really embrace one side and want the other. Especially not with the social norms we have today.
Yeah, that part kinda irked me.
Rob kardashian fucked up with that cheetah girl. Raven should swoop in.
CrazyDogg77
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Exactly what I got out of that quote
BeatResetsTheWorld
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It's the lazy go to response for people who don't want to acknowledge that racism still exists. Maybe hundreds of years from now when everyone is the same ambiguous shade people can say this, but that sure as fuck isn't now
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Retro_
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I think what bothers me the most about these statements is how people act like it's such an original thought that no one else had before.
"We're all just humans why can't people just understand that???"
It's a view that must be physically impossible to hold without being preachy. Just about everyone who holds it expresses it the same way.
;( no way man, he's mine.
I just love how the "we're all just humans" crowd is usually specifically speaking to minorities as if they should just stop complaining and move on with their lives.
Why isn't this message ever relayed to the people actually responsible for carrying out institutionalized racism and keeping minorities down?
Why isn't this message ever relayed to the people actually responsible for carrying out institutionalized racism and keeping minorities down?
It skips over so much shit, history least of all. If it was so easy wouldn't it have been done by now?
User 73706
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I asked the exact same thing like a month ago.
TheBlackMarvel
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Continual asking is the only way to achieve change.
MikeBreezy92
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Then why haven't I gotten my SS4 Goku toy from my mom yet?
Same reason wynnebeck's tag isn't :3
MorisUkunRasik
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You guys know storm never said that stuff about yakub and edomites right?
Alligatorjandro
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You got that man banned for no reason
Moris and Angelus always stirring up shit.
Vermillion
Banned
This makes no sense. People who identify as black won't necessarily speak on all aspects of black culture. Plus black culture has no clear leadership/government.
TheBlackMarvel
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MorisUkunRasik
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Callling white women pigs and saying white folks in general ain't shit is probably what got him.
If he they considered my post, then that's just bad modding. There's literally a button next to the post that will take you to what dude said and it's context..
ViewtifulJC
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He definitely said "I wish I could kill all these honky motherfuckers". I quoted it before the edit.
You're reaching.
MorisUkunRasik
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He definitely said "I wish I could kill all these honky motherfuckers". I quoted it before the edit.
We both know he'd make those posts if he didn't get snatched up so quick.
MikeBreezy92
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I miss One on One...never seen a show so ruined in my life.
Flex got a reality show, dude is broke as Bill Bellamy's comedy and he still trying to front.
MikeBreezy92
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Yo I saw that. Can't fladdap no more...
Raven sounds like she just doesn't want to be a "representative." She's black. She's a woman. She's gay. Who the hell would honestly want to deal with being that combination of things? She obviously sees the way the world treats all three of those groups. When she says she thinks of herself as an "American human," I think what she's really saying to the world is "Please don't shit on me, I didn't ask to be born this way." It's a defensive position and I can't be mad at it.
ViewtifulJC
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Its a defensive position against white supremacy. It's different, but I accept "black" and reject "african-american" because no one gets to take away my ability to define myself as I choose. Fundamentally, it's all semantic bullshit, but if it helps you keep your head up? if it's your only bit of power or pushback? Keep doing it.
May not agree..."but I understand" /chrisrock
May not agree..."but I understand" /chrisrock
Prototype Viktor
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i'm sure she doesn't. She was on Jodie Foster levels of private life and just earlier this year said she's going to be a full time student. Being out to herself for the last 16 years, in the hollywood business watching all the shit that went down before recently.
Or..her weave business didn't get off the ground and she angry at them blacks so hard she even took one of their women
But Aiii, rightful heir to Fex as a hater of EVERYTHING (especially women except for his waifu), says the game is garbage.
MorisUkunRasik
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The part of Raven's interview that made me double take was the "I"m American and that's a colorless person."
Nah, American is color inclusive, not colorless. You're a black women, you're also American. As much as you want to avoid that conversation and those labels, they're there with or without your consent. Trying to transcend that is just being naive and to a degree kinda sticking your head in the sand.
Nah, American is color inclusive, not colorless. You're a black women, you're also American. As much as you want to avoid that conversation and those labels, they're there with or without your consent. Trying to transcend that is just being naive and to a degree kinda sticking your head in the sand.
sooperkool
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Just saw this, been out of pocket for a minute. But yes, I have heard of the banned cartoon and even have seen it once or twice. Shit, I saw Song of the South in school.
Mrs. Manky
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Somebody needs to tell the /cops/ that we're Americans. Since people are all about the "I don't see color, I'm colorless, I'm a human just like we're all humans" shtick.
And I really do think that some (but not all) of this "new black" bullshit is push back from treatment in the past. When you have to put up with "You're not black enough, you're not black, you speak white, why don't you play ball, why do you like rock music" bullshit from your own race, it might fuck your mind up enough to want to separate yourself from them. Meanwhile, white people still see you as black. And they always will, no matter how you speak, no matter how much you share "their" culture, no matter if you marry one of them, etc, etc, etc.
And I really do think that some (but not all) of this "new black" bullshit is push back from treatment in the past. When you have to put up with "You're not black enough, you're not black, you speak white, why don't you play ball, why do you like rock music" bullshit from your own race, it might fuck your mind up enough to want to separate yourself from them. Meanwhile, white people still see you as black. And they always will, no matter how you speak, no matter how much you share "their" culture, no matter if you marry one of them, etc, etc, etc.
It's a crack to highlight how hypocritical it is to say you don't like labels, but in the same breath say you're an American, which is itself a label. And given her predilection for being an American human above all else, I wonder what that entails.
Labels are important and they mean something.
Angelus Errare
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Man I want to jump in that "Discrimination against men" thread so bad and simply go "Oh, you hate how America stereotypes you based on the actions of a few huh...tell me more."
Yup.
Yup.
Jest Chillin
Member
I really doubt that's what she was trying to say. Especially since she was very open about her hair in Chris Rock's "Good Hair" documentary.
I can't find a clip of the movie but here's an interview she did about the movie.
Because she loves you.
I smelled the MRA bullshit 2 posts in, and was "nope"
It's an Australian video, dude.
If I had an alt and alts were a thing that was allowed, I would be trolling the ever-loving-fuck outta that thread. With emperical facts.
Why don't you just contribute to the discussion with empirical facts using your actual account?
This is precisely why alts aren't allowed.
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