So they just gonna act like they haven't been shitting on Frieza since the Namek Saga ended, huh?
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Dragonball AF. #Believe
Let Toriyama rest in peace.
But he's the coolest guys.
Reminder that gohan re killed everyone.
Isn't that april fools?
You say that like toriyama isn't totally ok with this, and wont Milk DBZ and his square enix gig till the end of time . Drawing everything exactly the same.
Toriyama is living off of DBZ legacy and Dragon Quest legacy. This man can do whatever he pleases.
Jaco the Galactic Patrolman is pretty great, though
Fimbulvetr
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Chrono Trigger > DQ in any case.
Chrono Trigger > Dragon Ball > Dr. Slump > Dragon Quest > DBZ > Sand Land > Blue Dragon
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Retro_
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I realized my stepdad was on Comicview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3c_7LlleIo
I remember letting myself get HYPE for that shit. smh
Switched for correctness.
I hold DB and DBZ in the same place, I know there are people in both camps but I view it as the same damn. And hell its the same damn thing in japan.
As far as blue dragon goes, I liked the concept. Blue dragon isn't as good as dragon quest, I just liked the concept and never have been into dragon quest
And you forgot the goat COWA
Is it zwarte bowl season already? Where does the time go
Incorrect. Awful game is fucking awful.
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No they're different in Japan too. It's an anime made distinction. Like Naruto and Naruto Shippuuden.
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
CountBlack
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Yea.. couldn't get through Blue Dragon no matter how much I tried to make myself like it.
That SSJ5 Goku on AF tho
Still waiting. 2016 just wait on it.
That SSJ5 Goku on AF tho
Still waiting. 2016 just wait on it.
Naw, it's pretty decent home slice. Awful boss battle music aside.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Unpopular opinion: Mistwalker ain't shit. They release middling at best games.
More unpopular opinion: Level 5 has never made a good RPG.
It played like FF's worst hits. One of 3 games was actually interesting.
Buy me dinner first.
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Well played in the threads this morning, though. You both doing God's work.
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Those aren't really unpopular opinions at all
Angelus Errare
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Mistwalker is the Madoka of jRPG developers. :3
Oh really? Oh ok, I thought it was the same, my bad.
I just never... thought of them as that different. One kind of just evovled into the other ya know.
Like a series that I have a serous divide on is KHR who went from a comedy manga to a more actioney one
And the action one is several times better and the transition feels more inorganic, because it was. The lady making was told the comedy wasn't doing so hot, so she switched it up it was better. And you can see the transition , and that's a series I feel has a split. Where as DB and DBZ to me always felt like it just evolved into the other thing. GT felt inorganic, but that's another conversation.
ChamplooJones
Formerly Momotaro
Feels so good to play Valkyria Chronicles on my laptop.
Boombloxer
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I can get behind the first considering output.
I get the same hate for saying that Bayo/Vanquish/Godhand ain't shit, and that I'd take DMC 3:SE/NG:B/God of War 3/Gears 3 over them all, twice easily.
Had more fun with AW then I did with Wolfenstein, and that's after a corrupted save where the game doesn't realize I've beat it on Veteran already.
For today, though...looking at the content they added for GTA V (plus the fact that I have to replay all of the story missions), that might hold me until Feb, depending on the Destiny expansion.
NipplesAndToes23
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It's a travel show from a small network you never heard of. Here's an episode for an example. I hope they'll let me go with them.
No, their games don't have a shocking tonal shift that causes them to be so highly regarded that not only fans of that medium but not that specific genre but also non fans of the medium can still sing its praises.
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DBZ splits off from DB for me when it started getting too into the sci-fi shit over the general mythology that it was originally based on. With Goku and Piccolo being aliens and all the time travel bullshit in cell saga.
Buu saga was a return to form but series was too far gone for me.
Also I think there was a much larger sense of adventure in Dragonball. Before they could all fly around the planet in minutes and there were a lot of strong people in the world and at the world tournament, vs Mr. Satan being champion.
idk I think the series are different enough to split them like they are. Fans of the qualities in one may not really want anything the other has to offer.
Buu saga was a return to form but series was too far gone for me.
Also I think there was a much larger sense of adventure in Dragonball. Before they could all fly around the planet in minutes and there were a lot of strong people in the world and at the world tournament, vs Mr. Satan being champion.
idk I think the series are different enough to split them like they are. Fans of the qualities in one may not really want anything the other has to offer.
Lost Odyssey and Terra Battle are awesome.
Angelus Errare
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But fans of the genre do sing it's praise and it's pulled in quite the number of Xbox fans who would otherwise never play a jRPG. :3
Lost Odyssey is fucking dull. Boring combat, boring story. Terra Battle is vapid. It's not the worst game they've made, but the is no compelling reason to place it. Less story than an MMO.
Even their best game was flawed. The Last Story had a lot of issues, but at least it was fun to play. More than I can say for Xenoblade at least.
Did it impact the market so heavily that other companies immediately started making thematically similar games?
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Dreamdrop going in
Always. I love loving things and want to love everything, but if I dislike something, I don't hold back in the slightest. I don't disappoint well.
And really gotdamn hard.
Would argue for Chaos Rings or Panzer Dragoon Saga or Breath of Fire Dragon Quarter over it though.
I agree with you here.
Angelus Errare
Banned
No but neither did Madoka. If you want genre defining, then Sailor Moon is the correct answer not Madoka. In 10 years, Madoka will be forgotten and people will still bring up Sailor Moon out of nostalgia.
Sailor Moon brought in people who not only were not fans of magical girl or anime in general, but it also did what no other magical girl series can claim to have done in nearly the same capacity, and that is bring a sizable male demographics to it.
Madoka is the poor man's Sailor moon.
So yea. Squaresoft:Sailormoon::Madoka:Mistwalker.
CountBlack
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Lost Odyssey was amazing tho
Edit: How you gonna call Lost Odyssey bad when you giving that trash ninja gaiden palette swap GOTY
smh
Alligatorjandro
Banned
Oh cool a zwarte piet thread
If fantasy life is classified as an rpg, youre dead wrong.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Speaking of Level 5, I'm still bummed they scraped their original idea for Ushiro. My PSP was so ready.
so ready
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So Sailormoon is forever banking off of its past accomplishments?
and idk, Madoka is incomparable to Mistwalker simply by the fact that it's making money
I'm going to have to disagree. Lost Odyssey was the best Final Fantasy game last generation, and The Last Story was a solid action RPG. Mistwalker is a great studio for those who are a fan of PS1 RPGs. I'm not saying they're on a level of PS1 Square, but their games contain many of the same sensibilities - for better or worse. Granted, had they released these games during the Golden Age of JRPGs - they probably wouldn't be remembered as fondly - but in an age where they're pretty much the only ones releasing RPGs of that type? They ain't bad.
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