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The Black Culture Thread
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soundscream
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Its the principal.Bento said:I wouldn't let it scare you off, she's the sore thumb in a game that otherwise shares its bland characters evenly among the races
(and the game is actually very much worth playing)
To think that hey this was a good idea.
Lionheart1337
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I think people are overreacting to it. If it was a US publisher/dev, she probably wouldn't have even made it in the game. I would not want for them to remove content from the game just because it's not politically correct enough. I don't think the game consciously tries to paint a certain image, there are plenty of diverse characters and dialects.
eternaLightness
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Big Baybee said:
Do they call them that anywhere else beside N.O? I said it once when I moved up north and they looked at me like I was crazy lol. I'll also be getting my first pair of Chucks that should come in on Monday. Some lo-top black and white ones.
And holy crap at Deus Ex. And why the hell was she digging in the trash? And why does the main character sound like Batman? lol
Big Baybee
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I've only heard them called that here in Louisiana. I have family in Detroit, and they look at me crazy when I say that. Kind of how I look at them whenever they say pop. Down here we call everything Coke, lol.eternaLightness said:
Urban Scholar
Member
I just watched that deus ex video...um yeah.
eternaLightness
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We called everything a Cold Drank lol. I hate saying soda now.
Big Baybee
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Thats another one I say. The response up there is always "Cold drink of what? lolololololol!"eternaLightness said:
Me= :-/
The Faceless Master
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i just had to look up g-nike's on UD.
Another thread reminded me off an alert email that my campus sent to all students:
http://news.ucsc.edu/2011/04/community alert.html
The discrepancy in description detail is pretty hilarious.
http://news.ucsc.edu/2011/04/community alert.html
The discrepancy in description detail is pretty hilarious.
Zoramon089
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harSon said:
WTF. You see detailed clothing and feature descriptions of the black and latino dude but the white guy descriptions are basically "two white dudes of average height"
The Return of
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My friend from KY calls soda, POP. It drives me insane haha.eternaLightness said:
SleepyJohn11
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SoilBreak said:
harSon said:
Obviously,there's need be some more talk about biases that some folks don't want to acknowledge.
Janelle Monáe working on a new album cheered me up though.
What's up blackGAF! New here kinda. Made an account back in 2008, never really posted but turned into a lurker these past few years and saw this a few months ago and decided to post! So here goes...
- Where you're from: USA
- Where you live: Wilmington, Delaware
- Your cultural heritage, lineage and genealogy: African American (Mother), Indian Cherokee (Mother) (found that out by my mom just now. My grandmother's mom was 100% Indian Cherokee), Caucasian (Father).
- Do you know your roots?: I know a lot about my Mother side but not my Father side. She did say something he has Polish some polish and Hispanic going on. My Mom left him when I turned 1. So yeah sad face...
- Your Age: 24 years old
- Favorite musical genre: All genres. Hip Hop and Rock gets me hyped though!
- Your profession/major/career interest: I work at a local trauma hospital as a patient transporter. I'm in school for an Automotive Degree but going back for a Nursing degree.
- Your religious affiliation: Protestant Pentecostal Christian, but studying and might convert to Catholicism. I look to religion for hope and I certainly do not force my beliefs on anyone.
- Hobbies: love listening to music, working on cars, playing video games, reading up on human history, science, studying, exercising, dancing, having a few drinks with friends and fam, sports, love being around people, and chatting...etc
- Do you feel ostracized as a black nerd/dork? Charles Barkley once said that "there's nothing sadder than a black nerd". What do you think about those words, and while we're on the issue, what is gaf's opinion on the whole "act white" thing?
First, being mixed is hard for me. You see I couldn't fit in with the black community around me because pretty much they consisted of drugs, gangs and such. So my mother kept me in practically my whole life. When I tried to fit in with the black community I basically got push aside or made fun of. So I was an outsider growing up. I never had a problem with the white, asian or hispanic community. I connected with them on so many levels. I don't think it was because we I black but because I had a respectful viewpoint about life. When I would go into the black community with this respect, I got shot down and told "oh no this ni**a think he better or greater!". What people or the non respectful black community needs to understand is that it's not about the skin color but your character that people look at nowadays. I show character and respect not because I'm tan or light skin but because I was breed into this character and was taught how to respect. So that "black nerd" sh*t can fall back pretty much. Society labels me as Black because I have color but I know who created me and I know who taught me well. I hope that answered the question...
By the way today at work this white lady who I love to death and she is the same about me. Asked why is it that black people can freely say "ni**a" and white people can't? Is the whole racism still present today? Because when people bring up stereotypical questions or racist jokes or racist questions I clearly don't understand them and some white people think I'm slow or something but honestly I never paid any attention or grew up with my mom or anyone talking about racism. So I wouldn't know. I have so many diverse friends I would be surprised to hear that racism is still alive!
Peace my bros!
- Where you're from: USA
- Where you live: Wilmington, Delaware
- Your cultural heritage, lineage and genealogy: African American (Mother), Indian Cherokee (Mother) (found that out by my mom just now. My grandmother's mom was 100% Indian Cherokee), Caucasian (Father).
- Do you know your roots?: I know a lot about my Mother side but not my Father side. She did say something he has Polish some polish and Hispanic going on. My Mom left him when I turned 1. So yeah sad face...
- Your Age: 24 years old
- Favorite musical genre: All genres. Hip Hop and Rock gets me hyped though!
- Your profession/major/career interest: I work at a local trauma hospital as a patient transporter. I'm in school for an Automotive Degree but going back for a Nursing degree.
- Your religious affiliation: Protestant Pentecostal Christian, but studying and might convert to Catholicism. I look to religion for hope and I certainly do not force my beliefs on anyone.
- Hobbies: love listening to music, working on cars, playing video games, reading up on human history, science, studying, exercising, dancing, having a few drinks with friends and fam, sports, love being around people, and chatting...etc
- Do you feel ostracized as a black nerd/dork? Charles Barkley once said that "there's nothing sadder than a black nerd". What do you think about those words, and while we're on the issue, what is gaf's opinion on the whole "act white" thing?
First, being mixed is hard for me. You see I couldn't fit in with the black community around me because pretty much they consisted of drugs, gangs and such. So my mother kept me in practically my whole life. When I tried to fit in with the black community I basically got push aside or made fun of. So I was an outsider growing up. I never had a problem with the white, asian or hispanic community. I connected with them on so many levels. I don't think it was because we I black but because I had a respectful viewpoint about life. When I would go into the black community with this respect, I got shot down and told "oh no this ni**a think he better or greater!". What people or the non respectful black community needs to understand is that it's not about the skin color but your character that people look at nowadays. I show character and respect not because I'm tan or light skin but because I was breed into this character and was taught how to respect. So that "black nerd" sh*t can fall back pretty much. Society labels me as Black because I have color but I know who created me and I know who taught me well. I hope that answered the question...
By the way today at work this white lady who I love to death and she is the same about me. Asked why is it that black people can freely say "ni**a" and white people can't? Is the whole racism still present today? Because when people bring up stereotypical questions or racist jokes or racist questions I clearly don't understand them and some white people think I'm slow or something but honestly I never paid any attention or grew up with my mom or anyone talking about racism. So I wouldn't know. I have so many diverse friends I would be surprised to hear that racism is still alive!
Peace my bros!
I found this interesting and depressing. Had to look at it for my Psych class, it's a variation on the Kenneth and Mamie Clark doll study from the 1940s. There are a few valid explanations but I tend to think that they form these opinions based on what they hear from the adults in their lives.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYCz1ppTjiM
NOTE: Not sure it this will work outside the U.S.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYCz1ppTjiM
NOTE: Not sure it this will work outside the U.S.
B1gg_Randall
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G-Nikes =Air Force 1 ? If so down here in Charleston,SC we call those Willie Dee lol I dont know where that came from..Big Baybee said:
Edit= oh shit its on urban dictionary lol
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=willie%20dee's
soundscream
Member
Topher said:
Sigh
Big Baybee
Member
Yep. And we pronounce it the same as "like", not the traditional way you say Nike. Two syllables. G-Nikes. Been saying that since the late 90's. Don't know how it started, but it has stuck to this day.B1gg_Randall said:
I came across this Tyra show video on youtube. Sometimes Tyra will have race related shows and I think she has some good points in this video. There was no difference between the two women when it comes to clothes or the things they have.. but one was viewed negatively only because of her skin.
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhxsQV8JAmQ&NR=1
Really interesting how people can think so much just off of how a person's skin looks.
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhxsQV8JAmQ&NR=1
Really interesting how people can think so much just off of how a person's skin looks.
eternaLightness
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Kinda crazy how people can generalize a whole group from a few others they've "seen". He keeps saying "from personal experience" but my guess is that he's seen the "medias view" of black women or people.
Anyways, I finally got my first pair of Chucks today. woot!
Anyways, I finally got my first pair of Chucks today. woot!
eternaLightness
Member
Black and white low tops. I'm not wearing them now but I have my khakis on as well.
eternaLightness
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Low Five!
Big Baybee
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Big feet gaf, where do you buy your shoes? I wear 15's. Growing up I always had to order shoes out of EastBay because shoe stores never had my size. I was wearing 14's in the 9th grade. Took my body a while to catch up with my feet.
I like to try on shoes, and most place still don't carry large sizes.
Been looking at these though:
I like to try on shoes, and most place still don't carry large sizes.
Been looking at these though:
Big Baybee said:Big feet gaf, where do you buy your shoes? I wear 15's. Growing up I always had to order shoes out of EastBay because shoe stores never had my size. I was wearing 14's in the 9th grade. Took my body a while to catch up with my feet.
I like to try on shoes, and most place still don't carry large sizes.
Been looking at these though:
I've been wearing size 13 since 8th grade. I'm glad my body basically stopped growing since then. I was 6' my freshman year in high school with a size 13 shoe, and now I'm 6'1 1/2" with a size 13 shoe (I'm 23). Size 13 is the perfect shoe size. It's readily available in all stores, and not many people wear the size, so I never have issues getting the shoes I want.
eternaLightness
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I've been wearing a size 12 since I think 10th-11th grade. I would wear black shoes since they would look smaller on my feet. I'm 6'3 now so they don't look weird anymore. I think once you start getting into the much bigger sizes you may have difficult finding a pair. 12 seems to be pretty popular so I usually have to get a 12.5. The biggest I've seen a store carry was 14.
ChocolateCupcakes
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So many tall people, I'm jealous.
And I have never heard of anyone being ashamed of big feet...
And I have never heard of anyone being ashamed of big feet...
soundscream
Member
They look like clown shoes when you wear a size 14.ChocolateCupcakes said:
Naked Prime
Member
Size 14 as a freshman in high school and a 15 by my 2nd ear of college. Eight years later still a 15. Eastbay still is my primary source. Nike.com and Casual Male every now and then. A while back I was looking for swimming shoes and it took me 2 years to find a pair in my size. I worked at Footlocker from 2002-2006 and it helped a bit (though I still had to order most stuff thru the catalog). Everyone in my family stopped at 13, but my son looks to carry on the tradition his father set.
Dude, yor feet will look long as hell in those chucks so I'd be 127% sure. I picked p some B&W Sweet Leather Classics and they serve me pretty well.
Dude, yor feet will look long as hell in those chucks so I'd be 127% sure. I picked p some B&W Sweet Leather Classics and they serve me pretty well.
SmokyDave said:
Yes they actually do this. Why would I make shit up? I understand you dislike me, but really... was there a need to question me in that way?
Take it as you not having the same experiences as me.
You can always ignore what I say, but it seems all you want is to read what I say. You mostly pop up in here to comment on anything you disagree with me in. I'm fine with a discussion, but the way you go about it is douchie when I'm almost sure you have no real interests in a real discussion.
You even said you planned to fish for my comments in here to see how the thread was before I began posting here. Why are you so focused on me? I'm really curious. Because I rarely pay much attention to you.
Yeah. Don't take it personally. I just can't imagine anybody willfully denying that racism actually exists. I can imagine disagreements over what constitutes racism, I can imagine arguing over how racist something is, I can imagine arguing that the world is less racist in the modern age. I cannot wrap my head around the point blank denial that racism exists anywhere, in any form.Londa said:
I'm in England where overt racism is deader than it ever has been before, though still kicking, and I haven't heard anybody say 'racism doesn't exist', nor have I ever seen it posted on GAF.
I don't think you make shit up, but I do think you sometimes hear what you want to hear rather than what is actually said.
Edit: Just read your lengthy edit. I don't have a problem with you personally, I don't even know you. I just think you're antithetical to healthy discussion of racial topics, you always seem to go in with guns drawn and lots of pre-conceptions.
Yes, it was a serious question. Scrub 'internet' because you can read literally anything on the 'net. I guess I just meant GAF.SonnyBoy said:
Bear in mind we're talking about some people believing that racism is absolutely, totally and utterly dead. I find that idea on par with holocaust denial and I haven't met any of those people either.
SmokyDave said:
I don't know, maybe you can read my post where I said I'm not making shit up? Or I guess you want to be dense and ignore that?
Like you stated in this comment, where you live it is different than where I live. So just because you "can't imagine" doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
That's all I have to say about it. Now go and continue to stalk what I say here in the OT but next time when you disagree with what I say, don't bother replying. Why? Because I will basically not be responding to anything you say from here on out.
There are a majority here that actually want to have a real discussion and not a bias argument because you don't like his or her's posting style. Go back to your popularity contest.
Big Baybee
Member
I'm 6'1 or so now, but yea, when I was 5'3 wearing 12-13's, shit looked like ski's.soundscream said:
Naked Prime said:Dude, yor feet will look long as hell in those chucks so I'd be 127% sure. I picked p some B&W Sweet Leather Classics and they serve me pretty well.
I have that version and the all white version of these shoes. Half of my students have that exact same pair of shoes as well.
Sounds like there's some pretty dense people 'round your way. I honestly suspect that the people who are saying racism is dead are only saying it to light your fuse.Londa said:
Admit it, you've got a taboo crush on me haven't you?
I'm sending you a valentines card next year. A hot, sexy valentines card.
malingenie
Member
harSon said:
Holy shit! That's insanely obvious.
Edit: 17 words for the black guy, 17 for the hispanic and 16 words COMBINED for the two white suspects.
SmokyDave said:
From my experiences, people are willing to admit that in theory, racism exists albeit in a continuously lesser manner, but when push comes to shove and a supposedly racist happening occurs, these same people will do anything in their power to label it not racist.
I don't think I've been in an ethnicity thread where at least a handful of people insisted that the subject in question was not racist, and as you know, I've been in a lot of those types of threads.
Now that, I agree with. Marginalising the existence of racism isn't the same as denying it exists however.harSon said:
And those people might well have good reason for feeling the way they do. It doesn't necessarily translate into them denying the existence of racism, full stop. It just means they don't percieve that particular thing as racist. To me, there seems to be a vast difference in racial politics inside of the US and outside of the US and as many websites straddle that line, you can often have people with entirely different cultural touchstones and sensitivities looking at things from very different angles. What might be scathingly racist in one country might be perfectly normal in another (ie; the word 'Paki' to describe someone from Pakistan). I think that's how I got my reputation on here, I just couldn't see the racism in a lot of things posted until I better understood the racial politics of the US and the legacy of slavery and segregation.
Maybe it's a US thing, brought on by the election of a black president but outside of empty accusations on GAF, I've never seen or heard the suggestion that racism is dead. Hell, the KKK still has active chapters doesn't it? Europe has a fair sprinkling of Neo-Nazis etc.. it's not hard to see that whilst racism is being assailed from all sides, it's far from dead.
CrazyDogg77
Member
have to weigh on that Anderson Cooper vid. Did anyone else notice there was no mentioning of anything called black bias. It seemed as if the producers never thought to show that black kids could think less of other races than their own. And as far as the topics about being dumb,in my experience at school black kids have unfortunately been at the low end of class. Finally as the kids get older they start to form their own ideas. Most of the older kids showed very little bias. So it definitely seems to me the problem is more with parents than it is with children.